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{{U|Sdkb}}, you reverted my change, and the revision by {{U|Nick Moyes}} to mention the preferences setting for refToolbar. While you are correct that having it on is the default for new users, and what you get if you choose "Restore all default settings" I think it may be off for anyone whose account was active before the gadget was introduced, and i am sure it is off for anyone who ever opted out of RefToolbar ver 1, and perhaps in other cases. In any event I would like to restore the changes and then modify them to indicate that while active by default, if an editor doe snot see the toolbar, tht editor should check the preferences. I am, making this post in the spirit of [[WP:BRD]]. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/DESiegel|<sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub>]] 14:45, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
By the way, if you intended a pink by putting my username in your [[WP:ES|edit summery]], that doesn't work. [[User:DESiegel|DES]] [[User talk:DESiegel|<sup>(talk)</sup>]][[Special:Contributions/DESiegel|<sub>DESiegel Contribs</sub>]] 14:47, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
:{{u|DESiegel}}, [[WP:REFTOOLBAR]] states {{tq|Originally an opt-in Wikipedia Gadget, Reftoolbar was moved to a site-wide script on February 25, 2011, and to an opt-out gadget on April 2014.}} So it seems it's been around for 6 years, which basically means the only users at this point who might have it off are power users, who are not the intended audience here.
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:And oh no, is the method at [[Help:Fixing failed pings#Edit summary method]] broken? If so, we should definitely bring it up there, since it's also at [[Template:uw-pingfix]] and likely elsewhere. <span style="color:#AAA"><small>{{u|</small><span style="border-radius:9em;padding:0 5px;background:#088">[[User:Sdkb|<span style="color:#FFF">'''Sdkb'''</span>]]</span><small>}}</small></span> <sup>[[User talk:Sdkb|'''talk''']]</sup> 15:55, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
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