Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Esoteric programming language related: Difference between revisions

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* '''Delete'''. Delete 'em ALL!!! Good grief. I did enjoy [[TMMLPTEALPAITAFNFAL]], though. New variables and commands for every day of the century. Employers must be screaming for this skill. [[User:Terrapin|Terrapin]] 14:27, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

* '''Delete''' or '''Merge''' (sans examples) all but '''Var'aq''', '''False programming language'''. [[User:Anárion|{]][[User_talk:Anárion|ΑνάριονΑνάριον]][[Anárion|}]] 15:03, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

*'''Keep'''. By the way, the google search results are skewed. An extreme example:

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*:251 google hits for ''-wikipedia -thefreedictionary "HQ9+"''

*:7 google hits for ''-wikipedia -thefreedictionary "C Plus Plus" "esoteric programming language"''

*::[[User:Cyp|ΚσυπΚσυπ ''Cyp'']] [[User talk:Cyp| ]] 15:15, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

** I removed your addition of "C Plus Plus" from the list... this is confusing enough without joke listings. ;-) [[User:Benc|•• Benc]][[User_talk:Benc| ••]] 18:28, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

* '''Keep all''' You know something is MASSIVELY wrong with either the nominator or with vfd if 74 articles are proposed for deletion all at once. Like ARGH!

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* [Comment] The fact is that most of these languages are in violation of Wikipedia's rules. Why? Because they are essentially '''Original Research''', with no greater significance outside of the handful of l33t-wannabes who want to claim they invented a language. [[User:Terrapin|Terrapin]] 18:36, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

** To clarify: "[[Wikipedia:No original research|original research]]" refers to work done for the specific purpose of including it in the Wikipedia. As far as I can tell, none of these articles qualify under that definition: they're all ''reporting'' the facts about pre-existing toy languages. If anything, these articles are candidates for deletion or merging because of their lack of notability. [[User:Benc|•• Benc]][[User_talk:Benc| ••]] 19:41, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

*'''Keep''' - These articles are of interest to me and to many others. There's no compelling reason to get rid of the information. Why is this even being brought up? [[User:Factitious|Factitious]] 19:32, Sep 29, 2004 (UTC)

* I second Angela's vote: '''keep or redirect all'''. To decide which ones to keep and which ones to merge/redirect into [[List of esoteric programming languages]], discuss it at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Programming Languages|WikiProject Programming Languages]], ''not'' here on VfD.<p>Side note about the mass listing: please don't ever do this again. I know you were trying to speed up the process, but the logistics of juggling 70+ subnominations has actually slowed down the process. (Never sacrifice sanity for speed!) If you want to delete an entire class of articles, start by discussing it at [[Wikipedia talk:Deletion policy]] and the [[Wikipedia:Village pump|village pump]]. Thanks, [[User:Benc|&bull;•&nbsp;Benc]][[User_talk:Benc|&nbsp;&bull;•]] 19:34, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

* Keep all of them, and make a policy to stop people doing this again. [[User:Intrigue|Intrigue]] 19:48, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

* '''Keep.''' No policies, though, that is absurd. He is not a troll for nominating these. &mdash; [[User:El Chico|<font color="red">El</font> <font color="green">Chico!</font>]] [[User talk:El Chico|^{<font color="blue">Talk</font>}]] 20:15, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)

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*'''Keep all'''. Some of these, such as [[Unlambda]], actually illustrate important computer science principles. Others, such as my favourite, [[HQ9 Plus]], parody various aspects of programming language design. And like others, I object to an entire category of topics being proposed for deletion: if there are individual entries that should be deleted, propose those on the merits of the case. The fact that such classics as [[Brainfuck]], [[Befunge]] and [[INTERCAL]] have been proposed suggests the proposer isn't taking due care and attention. &mdash;[[User:Ashley Y|Ashley Y]] 01:02, 2004 Sep 30 (UTC)

**Look again. I voted "Keep" for [[Brainfuck]], [[Befunge]] and [[INTERCAL]] (see [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Esoteric programming language related/Detail|Sub Page]]) -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 01:21, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

** Comment on the methods, not the man. I have no doubt that Chris's motives for this mass listing were nothing but the best. [[User:Benc|&bull;•&nbsp;Benc]][[User_talk:Benc|&nbsp;&bull;•]] 04:15, 30 Sep 2004 (UTC)

***Thanks. With 20/20 hindsight I should have done things differently. I guess I have to work on my foresight, and try not to make such a goof again. Apologies to all people involved. Still think that some articles on the list are not really needed, though. -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 06:07, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

*Keep only the ones enumerated in [[Template:Esolangs]]; merge the rest into a single article. [[User:Poccil|[[User:Poccil|Peter O.]] ([[User Talk:Poccil|Talk]])]] 03:40, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)

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*'''Keep all''': Remember, evin tho these ar esoteric program langwige its still reel program langwiges! Do not redirect eny uv them (unles thay ar 1 that only 1 persen in the hole world uses them, wich is unlikely). The 1 that you do redirect you shud put a link to the web-site about them. And remember, a lot uv peple still use INTERCAL. Reed sum uv the abuve as well to see wy its importent to keep all uv them. -- [[User:Zzo38|zzo38]] 02:39, 2004 Oct 1 (UTC)

*'''Keep all'''. [[User:ElBenevolente|ElBenevolente]] 03:45, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

*'''Keep all''' and remove the VfD notice (sooner than later) from ''at least'' all the [[Template:Esolangs]] articles (that [[User:Chris 73]] obviously shouldn't have put on VfD in the first place). [[User:Leif|{{<nowiki></nowiki>]]<tt>'''~'''[[User:Leif|leif]]</tt> &#9786; [[User_talk:Leif|<sub>HELO</sig}}sub>]] 09:49, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

**Done. -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 10:34, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)

***Thanks, Chris [[User:Leif|{{<nowiki></nowiki>]]<tt>'''~'''[[User:Leif|leif]]</tt> &#9786; [[User_talk:Leif|<sub>HELO</sig}}sub>]] 21:01, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

*'''Keep all''' - The mass nomination is wrong. If you can't be bothered to evaluate them individually then they don't belong here. If you have then discuss them individually instead of lumping them in a group where the good can be thrown out with the bad (if any). - [[User:Texture|<font color=red>T&#949;xTεx</font>]][[User Talk:Texture|<font color=blue>&#964;τ</font>]][[User:Texture|<font color=red>ur&#949;urε</font><!-- TANSTAAFL -->]] 20:38, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

*Comment: several voters are giving [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] a hard time for mass-nominating a large number of articles. In fact, he's one of a very few people who ''did'' evaluate all of the articles individually. He voted on every one and provided at least a short reason. This only ''looks'' like a blanket nomination because he nominated them all at the same time and allowed people to vote on them all as a group&mdash;which I think is turning out to have been a mistake, as some of these subjects are, IMO, clearly more notable than others. It might have been easier on the voters if he'd nominated them in batches over a longer period (although then I'm sure people would have cited the languages that hadn't yet been deleted as support for the languages up for consideration), but I think it's unfair to criticize him for being willing to do ''more'' work than anyone else. If articles deserve to be nominated, then they deserve to be nominated, and many of these clearly deserve at least nomination, even if we ultimately decide that they don't deserve deletion. [[User:Triskaideka|<nowiki></nowiki>]]&mdash;[[User:Triskaideka|Triskaideka]] 21:13, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

**('''Comment & Apoligies by Nominator''') Thank you very much. I agree that it was a mistake to nominate such a large nuber at once, including some clear ''Keep''er's .I would like to thank everybody who looked at the individual nominations for their effort. My apologies to the community for creating such a stir. On top of that, I have to go on a trip today and won't be back until Thursday, so I can't even clean up my mess when it is due on Monday. (Not that I would delete anything at this point with that number of ''Keep all'' votes). Otherwise i would remove all the ''VfD'' tags from the articles and also see which articles had a majority for deletion based on the individual votes. Again - not deleting them but only list them somewhere (possibly [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Programming Languages]]) and ask for further comment. After that I probably take a VfD Holiday. Thanks. -- [[User:Chris 73|Chris 73]] [[User talk:Chris 73|Talk]] 23:13, Oct 1, 2004 (UTC)