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::::::::::::::: If we follow the policies, guidelines and definitions linked to said policies and guidelines, then the EL is in compliance with [[WP:ELNO]] point 11. Or, if we do as you wrote above and choose to not necessarily follow the policies, guidelines and definitions, then all bets are off, and it doesn't even matter if the EL is in compliance with #11, or #1 - #10 any of the other points. Because in that case it doesn't matter. So which will it be? Follow the policies, guideline, and definitions? Or choose to not "necessarily" follow the policies, guidelines, and definitions? Either choice leads to the same conclusion; that the EL is valid. [[User:Paul.wehland|Paul.wehland]] ([[User talk:Paul.wehland|talk]]) 15:30, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
::::::::::::::::That's not remotely what I said above. - [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 16:13, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
:::::::::::::::::We need a deliberate system of principles to guide decisions and achieve rational outcomes, implemented as a procedure or protocol. We have principals and protocols at [[WP:POLICY]]. What you describe of: "not necessarily follow the definitions given in mainspace articles", does not achieve that. What you describe is opinion, not policy. The WP:ELNO #11 policy is clear and references definitions that have been maintained since 2005-10-18 and has more than 770 edits <ref>https://xtools.wmflabs.org/articleinfo/en.wikipedia.org/Personal_web_page</ref>. In these 15 years, there has been plenty of time and re-work to define a personal web page. I do not see anywhere your definition of a person web page as "[a] person wrote it and put it up." If I have missed it, please point it out to me. If that was indeed the definition, then all non-automated websites would be a personal website. I think for too long you have operated under a [[Formal_fallacy|Logical Fallacy]] while removing edit after edit across Wikipedia. Instead of trying to improve Wikipedia, you engage in [[WP:EW|edit warring]] and vandalism because of your logical fallacy(s). I challenge you to try to improve Wikipedia, not through constant deletion of links, but rather through [[Wikipedia:Template index/Cleanup|templates]], so that other editors can fill in the blanks. Do you accept the challenge to improve wikipedia though [[WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM]]?
::::::::::::::::::Again, I do not agree that this link meets the standard given in [[WP:ELYES]]. Kindly do not lie about my opinions again as you [https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_Microsoft_SQL_Server&type=revision&diff=978593674&oldid=978554585 just did in the article]. Given your motivated reasoning and consistent misreading of my comments, I am starting to get the feeling that talk with you is futile - but make no mistake, there is no consensus to include this link on this article. Do not add it again, and do not claim that I support your additions of it. - [[User:MrOllie|MrOllie]] ([[User talk:MrOllie|talk]]) 21:08, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
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