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Decimal input (Windows) Part 2: I do not understand what Spitzak is trying to say.
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::::[[User:Peter M. Brown|Peter Brown]] ([[User talk:Peter M. Brown|talk]]) 01:16, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
::Sorry to keep this going, but I really think you have some misunderstanding of this, though I cannot figure out exactly what your confusion is, but I am just trying to be helpful and correct it. Basically either mod-256 is applied to the number typed in or it is not. This means that 960 either turns into 960 or 192, and can therefore produce either {{char|π}} or {{char|À}}. And it means that 448 can either turn into 448 or 192, and can therefore produce either {{char|ǀ}} or {{char|À}}. What you have shown is that in Wordpad, the first case (no modulus) applies, for both letters. But neither example has improved "brevity" over the other. And you seem to think that showing that another number that is equivalent to 192 also does not have modulus applied somehow enforces the idea that "modulus has nothing to do with it". Of course modulus has nothing to do with the case that ''modulus is not used''. IMHO a better proof would be to use a number that is ''not'' equivalent (just in case somebody want's to claim that you have only proven that modulus is not applied only to numbers that are equivalent to 192 modulus 256).[[User:Spitzak|Spitzak]] ([[User talk:Spitzak|talk]]) 18:23, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
:::You continue to write of numbers turning into each other. I wrote above that "One can never turn into two, nor can 960 turn into 192, despite Spizak's claim to the contrary." Since you continue to write of numbers turning into each other, you must mean something by this locution, but I find it baffling. Likewise your talk of numbers "having modulus applied". Only someone who understands this concept could "claim that [I] have only proven that modulus is not applied only to numbers that are equivalent to 192 modulus 256". As I do not understand, I could not reply.
:::My statement that "modulus 256 has nothing to do with it" was perhaps too vague. The context was the production of characters using the Alt key in Word or Wordpad; I meant only that, within this context, the character produced does not depend on what characters are equivalent modulo 256 to the number entered.
 
:::[[User:Peter M. Brown|Peter Brown]] ([[User talk:Peter M. Brown|talk]]) 21:05, 20 September 2020 (UTC)