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== Recent re-write ==
I notice that large parts of this article have been rewritten earlier today by Oicumayberight. I'm concerned about the repetition in the paragraph under the heading 'Criticism of WYSIWYG editors'. It seems to say the same thing three times with ever more whacky examples used for emphasis. Is this the three-times repetition trick I heard somewhere that politicians' speech-writers use for rousing an audience, or is there something in there that I'm missing? [[User:Nigelj|Nigelj]] 16:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
:That's because in the original article (not titled as "criticism"), there were 3 examples in which unfair criticism of WYSIWYG editors should have been placed elsewhere:
I may be out of touch with graphic designers' tools (I spend most of my days writing OO web software these days), but can we have an example of, or an explanation of, what 'Object Editors' are? I've never heard of them as discussed here and can't work it out from what's written. On the same score, what are 'Pallets'? Are these dialog boxes? Maybe another name for panels within some product's main window? Again it's just not a GUI term I'm familiar with, and with no illustration or example of what we're talking about I'm not clear what to visualise. (I have been using, writing and designing GUI user interfaces for some years, so I'm not completely ignorant in this area)▼
:* Negligence
:* Inexperience
:* Excessiveness
:All three of these are examples of bad, web design, not bad software technology. I figure all three needed unique rebutting. The whole section read like "WYSIWYG editing is obsolete, so don't consider using it". Since this is a common practice amongst left-brain types, I decided to make the section about why this common criticism is unfair instead of letting the unfair criticism live un-rebutted. I would be fine with deleting the unfair criticism and moving the whole section to the talk page. [[User:Oicumayberight|Oicumayberight]] 19:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
▲I may be out of touch with graphic designers' tools (I spend most of my days writing OO web software these days), but can we have an example of, or an explanation of, what 'Object Editors' are? I've never heard of them as discussed here and can't work it out from what's written. On the same score, what are 'Pallets'? Are these dialog boxes? Maybe another name for panels within some product's main window? Again it's just not a GUI term I'm familiar with, and with no illustration or example of what we're talking about I'm not clear what to visualise. (I have been using, writing and designing GUI user interfaces for some years, so I'm not completely ignorant in this area) [[User:Nigelj|Nigelj]] 16:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
:[[Palette window]] to be more specific. I linked the confusing terms. Designers use pallet to distinguish from the [[Dialog box]]es that are cumbersome to open and close and specify the type of [[Window (computing)|windows]].
:[http://www.qianqin.de/en/blog/?20060525_qobject_and_mysql HTML Object editor] is an emerging term to describe the function rather than format of editing HTML [[Object (computer science)|objects]]. I used it for lack of a better word to describe the state between full text editing and WYSIWYG. I included this because the article's dichotomy of only two modes of HTML editing (text or WYSIWYG) was false. [[User:Oicumayberight|Oicumayberight]] 19:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
Lastly, I'm worried about the bullet points in the 'Criticism of WYSIWYG editors' section now. It seems to read, "Some people say ''this'' criticism, but they're ''wrong, wrong, wrong'' for all the following reasons..." over and over again. It reads more like a "how to win an argument against people who criticise your editor" guide. If that's a balanced NPOV view, then the subheading is now certainly wrong as there are no criticisms left.
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I was tempted just to revert the whole set of edits, but I'll leave it a while to see what other editors think. --[[User:Nigelj|Nigelj]] 16:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
:There are criticisms left, just not left unrebutted. I would be fine with deleting the rebuttals as long as the unfair criticisms are deleted with it. [[User:Oicumayberight|Oicumayberight]] 19:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
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