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WRT to your recent edit of the Dashes pages, will you please take a look at the comment against retaining the preference for hyphens in titles, and provide a rejoinder? Tony 08:44, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- My edit only fixed a broken sentence. Anyway, thanks for letting me know there is a discussion on the issue.--Patrick 09:20, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
Finite
Hi Patrick. I disagree with this edit you made. Of course an object is not a number. But do you ever say a "finite object" meaning an object of finite diameter, or do you say "finite set" meaning an object of finite measure? Because, if not, you are not talking about the object being finite, but about its diameter or measure being finite, which is indeed a number. Thanks, you can reply here. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:00, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- For example Hilbert's paradox of the Grand Hotel mentions a finite object. Even though bounded is formally a better word, mentioning something on this on the page finite seems useful.--Patrick 08:00, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- The term "(in)finite hotel" is used in a very informal way in the Hilbert's paradox of the Grand Hotel article, and the way it is used there is clear from the context (number of rooms). I don't that is general usage.
- One should find better reasons for including things, rather than what you did for sequence when you added the fact that "finite sequence is the same as sequence with a finite number of terms" based on some sloppy writing of some previous editor at sequence space.
- Are you saying that when you opposed clearing up that inconsistency you had not even followed my link to sequence space?--Patrick 23:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- As otherwise it is just too easy to add misinformation and confusion to articles. I'll cut out the mention to "finite object" meaning "object of finite diameter" at finite unless you can come up with references for that usage (and not just some obscure website). That per Wikipedia:Citing sources. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 15:14, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- See e.g. universe: it discusses whether the (theoretical) universe is finite or infinite.--Patrick 23:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- Fair enough, the word "finite" has an informal meaning too. But then its definition should be informal also. I replaced "finite diameter" and "finite measure" with "finite size". Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 02:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
- See e.g. universe: it discusses whether the (theoretical) universe is finite or infinite.--Patrick 23:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
Template:PD-PCL question
Howdy, I noticed you created the above template and I was wondering if you could answer a question about it's application. I'd like to use some of the state maps from the Perry-Castañeda Library Map Collection and add references (or shading) to the various American Viticultural Area in those states. The FAQ linked in the templates says that we may "use them as you wish" so I'm assuming that we can alter them with due credit and link to the original map. You template doesn't have any reference to a map being altered so I'm wondering what additional tagging that I may need to add to the maps that I upload. Thank you in advance for your time and consideration. AgneCheese/Wine 07:42, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
- It seems from commons:Template:PD-PCL that we should not use this template anymore anyway, and refer to the original source instead. If you are going to upload the image to Commons (which is preferable) you can best ask there, I am not an expert. Perhaps you need separate tags for the original and the change, where the latter could be commons:Template:PD-self.--Patrick 08:47, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Hi Patrick. It appears that you wrote most of this article, and there is good info in there. I have a suggestion though. Do you think the article could be made more acessible? The concept of rigid body is rather elementary, but the first section in the article starts with configuration spaces, which is rather technical math. Any ideas of how to simplify at least the first half of the article? Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:49, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
- The first two sentences of section one (the section after the lead section) could be moved down; in section one we can put in that place a simpler sentence about combinations of translations and rotations. What follows is more elementary, just vectors and matrices.--Patrick 07:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
- I have done that.--Patrick 07:44, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks, it looks much better now!
- And I have a question about the notation in the kinematics section. Does one need to write there or is it enough to write , so dropping the (also note that now both the notation with r_0 and the one without r_0 is present). Thanks. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 14:45, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
- The notation was a bit sloppy, I fixed it. Since some quantities depend on and some do not, it seems good to mention this dependence when applicable. The motion of a rigid body is about the position etc. as function of the two variables.--Patrick 23:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 03:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
- The notation was a bit sloppy, I fixed it. Since some quantities depend on and some do not, it seems good to mention this dependence when applicable. The motion of a rigid body is about the position etc. as function of the two variables.--Patrick 23:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
Re:Death Proof
The 120 version of Death Proof was released separately from the Grindhouse double feature. As the information that an extended version was created is already in the body of the article, it doesn't need to be mentioned in the infobox. (Ibaranoff24 13:50, 21 June 2007 (UTC))
- It is much too US-centered to consider non-US info too minor to put in the infobox. Please revert your deletions.--Patrick 14:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
- The article is about Grindhouse as a double feature, not Grindhouse as seperate films. In the future, please reply to my talk page rather than your talk page so I can get back to you sooner. (Ibaranoff24 21:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC))
- When did I delete info? The info was still in the article, it just wasn't in the infobox. There's a difference! I put in a footnote on the runtimes of the individual films that includes the runtime of the extended version of Death Proof. What was wrong with that? (Ibaranoff24 14:32, 22 June 2007 (UTC))
- The article is about Grindhouse as a double feature, not Grindhouse as seperate films. In the future, please reply to my talk page rather than your talk page so I can get back to you sooner. (Ibaranoff24 21:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC))
Transformers
Because it's a comic book and novel that serves the story of the film. It isn't just a film: this whole new fictional universe is a major push on Hasbro's part to reinvigorate a franchise. Alientraveller 13:36, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
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Sorting
I just turned to you for a little help. I saw you have added Class=sortable to Tabu's filmography table. I did the same in the Preity Zinta page, cause I found it as a good idea. Now I changed the filmography style of Zinta, and the Class=sortable doesn't work properly. Could you help me please? Thanks, --Shahid • Talk2me 10:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
Thank you. So I can't display it on this king of table? --Shahid • Talk2me 10:50, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- I don't know what you mean by "king of table". For tables for which sorting makes sense I recommend that cells extending over multiple rows and/or columns are avoided, so that sorting is possible.Patrick 11:02, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- My bad... I meant "kind" --Shahid • Talk2me 12:55, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
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Shortcut templates
I'm not sure this is such a good idea. Why are you replacing shortcuts with templates? Just expand the shortcut to the full link. --- RockMFR 18:23, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
- The full link is fine, but if somebody does not want to type or copy the full name, a template is a solution to keep it readable. Also on talk pages.--Patrick 23:39, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
Fire sale
I inserted mention of the fire sale in the Plot section and piped the link to the explanation on the Wikipedia article. Hope that works. I did consider the "see also" template to be out of place. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 17:52, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
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Subst help on furvg template
Hi Patrick. Thanks for coming to help on User:KieferSkunk/furvg with the subst issue. Unfortunately, I already tried most of that solution, and it didn't work. :/ Unless I'm missing something in how the template is used. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 23:02, 1 August 2007 (UTC)