MONGO
Stress relief
Thanks for your good advice. I do tend to take on too much. I have been trimming down my responsibilities:
- Developer - resigned long ago
- Bureaucrat - used to do all admin promotions using developer access with a SQL query; started the practice of having bureaucrates "run for office" instead of developers just appointing themselves or other; resigned last month (too zealous on name-changing)
- Mediation Committee
- NPOV watchdog
- Civility enforcer
So why should writing articles come practically as an afterthought? I could use some more coaching, Mongo! :-) Uncle Ed 13:40, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
You seem to be saying, write about my passion, write about what I know. Well, I guess that would be Unification Church philosophy and theology, as well as effective software engineering practices. Nothing controversial here. I'm the only one at Wikipedia who knows anything about UC ideas, so I'd have the field to myself. And I know a lot about software engineering, too. Uncle Ed 21:07, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
Advisory Committee election deadline set
Our new admin general, Essjay, has set the date for the advisory committee elections, that date being October 7th. By UTC it is October 5th right now. So see WP:ESP/E for voting in two days, and add yourself to the list if you're interested in running. On a personal note, I'm considering running, as I only resigned as admin general because of time. I'm sure I could help out on the advisory committee... Anywho, watchlist that page, and be sure to read the voting method too. Regards, Redwolf24 (talk) 01:11, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
No hard feelings
Believe me, I understand where you're coming from. It's easy to get drawn into debates like that when you feel strongly about a subject. I wasn't trying to chastize you really, but rather to keep you from being baited by all the sockpuppet trolls that keep popping up and and veering away from the real content issues. Cheers! · Katefan0(scribble) 14:34, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Protected areas infobox changes
I think it is worth thinking of modifying, but I do not want to just take over without consensus. I am going to initiate a 3 step process:
- Request a vote of whether or not we should modify the infobox
- If "yes" or "discuss" we allow a period for proposals
- We have a vote on the proposals.
See the project talk page soon. — Eoghanacht talk 20:19, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
Who are you?
and what exactly bothers you about my user:page? Even better question why are you sending me messages on my user:page instead of my talk:page, where I might actually get them?--Bah' 02:02, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
- I have no problem with your userpage, but don't understand why it's filled up with what should be on your talk page. Naturally delete it if you wish.--MONGO 01:57, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
- It's just there to explain why someone with so few edits is all of a sudden involved in the encyclopedia, it's basically just exposition so people know I didn't just fall out of the sky--Bah' 02:02, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
- hopefully the formatting changes I've just made should make this less confusing, of course now it looks a bit too much like a closed VfD page, which actually makes it more confusing, maybe I'll try a different color--Bah' 02:10, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
- Frankly I don't know enough about hex to actually make heads or tails of this color system, but at least this: #E4F9EE isn't the same color as a VfD anymore #F3F9FF, so the confusion should be minimized--Bah' 02:14, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
- I see you're getting a lot of use out of my idea--Bah' 01:42, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
- hopefully the formatting changes I've just made should make this less confusing, of course now it looks a bit too much like a closed VfD page, which actually makes it more confusing, maybe I'll try a different color--Bah' 02:10, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
- It's just there to explain why someone with so few edits is all of a sudden involved in the encyclopedia, it's basically just exposition so people know I didn't just fall out of the sky--Bah' 02:02, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your support
Thank you very much for your support on my nomination for adminship. Now that I have been made an admin, I will do my best to live up to the truest you and the community have placed in me. If you ever see my doing something you think is incorrect or questionable, or does not live up to the standards that should be expected of an admin, please let me know. DES (talk) 15:57, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
Big Thanks
Thanks for looking after my User page. I been somewhat distracted lately with this mediation thing. Let me know if I can do anything for you. Thanks again! nobs 03:49, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
How to nominate Somebody
Howdy MONGO, long time no see. I was wondering if you could help me out here. How exactly do you nominate someone for adminship? Do you simply edit the RFA page or what? Thanks alot Banes 18:31, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
Hey, thanks for that. I am planning to nominate a South African user:Jcw69 this afternoon. See you Banes 06:46, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Re:Sorry
To tell you the truth, it's more of my fault than yours. I've had a lousy temper in the past, something that being here on Wikipedia has helped alot. However, I still am at the point where George W. Bush and people like him make me sick. And despite what you may think, and regardless of any "Right/Left" thing, what you said on that RfA puts you as almost as an exact opposite of those Bushites in my opinion. They refuse to listen or grow or mediate like a good Wikipedian would do, they just blindly follow their blanket ideology for their own gain, just like many current high level left wing politicians, unfortunately. There are good people on both sides and there are jerks on both sides too.
I'm sorry I didn't get back to you sooner, things have been shitty lately. I've changed around my entire career just so one day I can replace those politicians I just talked about in the last paragraph. I've been losing faith that I can achieve that goal lately, but your comment helped bring back a little of that faith and I figured that deserves a Barnstar that Was Eaten By a Bear. Considering your excellent contributions on Montana and National Park related articles, I'm sure seeing a Bear is no big thing ;-) Karmafist 01:24, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
- Well, I shouldn't take all the credit on the Barnstar Bear, I got the idea when I was on welcome patrol at User talk:DaisLite, and he deleted someone else's welcome with the phrase EATEN BY BEARS! I thought that was hilarious and decided to make a barnstar out of it, kind of as a hybrid of the Barnstar of Good Humor and The Surreal Barnstar ("The Barnstar of Wierd Humor That Cheers You Up"), but I don't really care what people use it for. Eventually I hope to make a page about it.
And as for the war thing, I completely agree with you there. 99.9% of them suck (Nothing is absolute, plus I enjoy Star Wars, and I think that technically counts), and the only way it seems that we'll be able to eliminate them is by changing ourselves by improving our own dispositions, and by proxy having other people want to change themselves as well by looking at how great we seem after we changed ourselves. Unfortunately, that changing will probably take a lifetime for me, I can be a stubborn SOB at times ;-) See you around, Karmafist 13:58, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Your support on my RfA
Dear MONGO: I would like to thank you very much for your support of my RfA. I am most honoured by the trust that has been placed in me by yourself and other members of the Wikipedia community; I promise to only use my administrative privileges to assist the community in doing good work, and also to be calm, considerate and careful in working to make Wikipedia a better place. Although I don't think we've met so far, I do look forward to working with you in the future on Wikipedia, and wish you all the best in your wiki-work! Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull | (talk) (e-mail) (cabal) 01:35, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
Indian subcontinent earthquakes list
Thank you for your contribution at 2005 Kashmir earthquake.
Please keep it up!!! - P R A D E E P Somani (talk)
Feel free to send me e-mail.
Protected Areas Wikiproject
MONGO,
I think it's great that you're doing work with the infoboxes in the Protected Areas project. I wish you had contacted me before you started copying and pasting my Infobox template, though. By copying and pasting the template, you defeat the purpose of having a template in the first place, since no changes or corrections that anyone makes to the template will be reflected in your updated pages. Did you look at the "Template Talk" for that page? It has an example that I think it pretty clear for how to use it. Mrendo 14:49, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
- Mongo, I was going to give the voting process a week (till tomorrow) and then start programming the template in ernest, with the caveat that there may be some minor infobox content proposals to work through in the following week or so. I may pick a couple of your sites as guinea pigs (to test all the different header colors) and move them to templates tomorrow. — Eoghanacht talk 13:08, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
See Template talk:Protected Area Table and Wikipedia:WikiProject Protected Areas/U.S. Infobox Proposals (2005). — Eoghanacht talk 20:22, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Re: Admin
Not yet. If you're offering to nominate, I'll accept, but I dont want to self-nominate. Thanks for the query. freestylefrappe 02:32, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
- I created a short-stub and an anon user added the delete tag-claiming (possibly mistaking) it was nonsense. Someone (unknown) deleted it and it was recreated a month later after I added it to the Requested articles page. Thanks. freestylefrappe 15:15, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry for the inconvience, but could you send the email again? My email address was off by a letter. freestylefrappe 20:50, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
- I gratefully accept, thanks. freestylefrappe 01:16, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry for the inconvience, but could you send the email again? My email address was off by a letter. freestylefrappe 20:50, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
When I clicked on the message to my temp page it was linking to the original candidacy from ages ago - I tried to move it to a new ___location, but when I saw the redirects I realized I had needlessly created a double redirect, and saw the link to the correct temp page. freestylefrappe 01:27, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Democracy Article
Hi MONGO, your revert of User:4.245.54.149 missed his blanking of the section on Political legitimacy and 'democratic culture'. I have now restored that. Regards. --Cactus.man ✍ 10:24, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
- Just so you didn't revert again, it's happened before and easier to drop a quick note. Anyway... --Cactus.man ✍ 10:45, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Thank you for your kind introduction
Mongo, I appreciate your willingness to apply Hanlon's Razor to my situation, and your warm welcome. I sincerely appreciate both things. As a newcomer to this community, I'm struck by the importance of behaving the way a typical five-year-old does on his first day in a new school. He will stand back for a time from the kids who are playing together, and watch what they do. Then, when he feels the time is right (and God help him if he messes up this timing) he will jump in and act like one of the group. If he "feels the love" then everything is good, and he will stay. My part of it, as a newcomer, is to stand back and observe. That means reading all the articles that target this audience. One thing I read is that deleting a well-intentioned post on your "Talk" page might be regarded as a hostile act, so I will respect that, more or less. I bring this up because I deleted the {{Welcome}} boilerplate you put at the top of my Talk page, not to throw down the gauntlet, but rather to assert a measure of editorial control over the form of my Talk page. I want you to know I saved all the links (I had seen most of them already, anyway) and I appreciate both the effort and the warmth of everyone I've met so far in this community.
--GraemeMcRae 19:53, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Maoririder
Oh no, no, no, no! I was talking to Tony, not you! I'm sorry if you got that impression. Some other editors, based on Maoririder's editting style, think he's either a child or has some sort of mental difficulties. The word "retarded" was (I believe, since I don't remember using it) used in good faith to indicate some kind of mental retardation. Personally, I think he's autistic. --Scimitar parley 21:14, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your support on my RfA!
Thanks for your support of my adminship!! I was surprised at the turnout and support I got! If you ever have any issues with any of my actions, please notify me on my talk page! Thanks again! Ryan Norton T | @ | C 03:14, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Please subst
Please substitute your templates with text when using them on users' talk pages; see Help:Subst. Thanks. // Pathoschild 04:06, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Footnote bite
MONGO,
I think this was leaning towards a bite. To play the devil's advocate, the contributor did provide the links, and if you felt that they should be included in the article, you could have put them in yourself. To be fair, I was (holds up fingers) this close to doing either that or doing what you did, so, um, yeah...
brenneman(t)(c) 06:02, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply. Again, it would have been almost as easy to put the citation in-line yourself, and would have avoided the user simply reverting you. Which they did. If you had other concerns about this edit, this discussion could have been avoided by using the talk page of the article and stating them. As to, "I see no reason for your comment" if I've offended you, it was not my intention.
brenneman(t)(c) 07:20, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Re: Vote here link
If I go to here Wikipedia:Requests for adminship and click on the vote here link then I get Editing Wikipedia:Requests for adminship. However, if I click on the edit link on the right hand side I get to the correct votin page. I think it must be a problem here as I've never seen anyone else notice it and this is not the first time I've had this problem. CambridgeBayWeather 08:09, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
Harriet Miers
I agree that some Republicans are criticizing Miers to make her seem more moderate than she is. There's also an element of trying to influence Bush's next selection -- they want him to think that, if he again nominates someone who's not sufficiently right-wing for their tastes, they'll really hit the roof. JamesMLane 16:10, 13 October 2005 (UTC)