Talk:Etheric plane
Latest comment: 19 years ago by 212.113.164.104 in topic Theological versus scientific concept
Theological versus scientific concept
This article is supposed to be about the theological concept of the aether. However I notice that material more appropriate to the scientific concept has intruded. This material is more appropriate for the luminiferous aether article and should be moved there or removed altogether. It is confusing to the article to mix the two concepts. In addition the Aetherometry material has already been removed from the luminiferous aether article on the grounds that it is unnotable original research. On the other hand, given its longstanding nature, the Harold Aspden aether material probably does belong in Wikipedia in the luminiferous aether article. -- Derek Ross | Talk 05:06, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
- The article is about the description of one item related to Plane (cosmology): the Etheric plane, which is said, in all esoteric conceptions worldwide, to be the 'matrix' of the physical world and interconnected with it. As such, all NPOV/informative views on this issue should be welcome (theological, philosophical, scientific, etc. and not only the 'esoteric' one). On the other hand, scientific conceptions are an important view since science, i.e. Physics, tries to understand how the world and universe work (forces, particles, laws,...) and explain it to our society. Physics prior to 20th century contemplated the existence of the invisible 'ether' as a possibility and later discarded it; now, if you have someone from Physics in later 20th century and early 21st century, explaining how the physical world, its study object, may be produced and governed by an 'ETHERIC WORLD' (a world beyond ours composed of Aether with different structures); then I would say it clearly fits this article. That's why a general description has been inserted here!
- This research is polemic, not having scientific consensus (see 'Aetherometry' discussion page), however it is not this article objective to establish if it is true or not, but, to show the several descriptions from human knowledge fields which present conceptions about this (a)etheric world/plane (being Harold Aspden physics theoretical conceptions and Aetherometry research two of them).
- I agree that Aether theories article, and luminiferous aether in an historic perspective, should contain data about Aspden's research, however, in a different view point than the present article: i.e. explaining directly what, according to this author, the 'luminisferous aether' is, its structure, how it creates and permeates matter, the laws related to it and and to physical particles, about the old and current-day experiments done, etc. That is, explaining indepth the theories, conceptions and experiments (while this article "Etheric plane" gives the needed general overview and presents how, according to this author, there is an Aether plane/world beyond and interacting with the Physical world).
- Last, from my point of view, it is obvious from 'Aetherometry' discussion at Wikipedia and worldwide that intellectual arrogance dominates today's Physics: just to discuss this theoretical and experimental research of an Aether (or an Ether world) is to admit that there is a possibility that throughout the 20th century the 'almighty' explaining Physics (and related branches of science) might have been on a wrong path; and that seems to be too much for the scientific 'powers' in control of our society. See, our current-day society was formed on a scientific view of the world and the universe dominated by Physics explanations of matter being the only real thing: and how in the hell it goes to explain now that there is, or might be, an invisible world determining our world? (and if knowledge has been based on wrong assumptions, well, what more in the current world might be wrong?) --212.113.164.104 10:49, 8 December 2005 (UTC) --212.113.164.104 14:13, 8 December 2005 (UTC)GalaazV