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Nick Rose Day

A personal essay on a supposed holiday at Harvard Law School, but this reads like a hoax to me. Why would people celebrate a guy who hasn't graduated yet? This is just nonsense in my eyes at present. Harro5 21:17, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Um. I am at Harvard Law School, I know all the people involved. Anyone who wants to find out if this is true can email me. I will give you my real school email address and then send you proof of this. I can sent pictures, a notice from the school announcing the holiday, and a notice of the HL Central Bar Review in honor of the day.

If you doubt this, i can prove it. Please do not delete this entry. Email me at Saucyintruders@gmail.com. Also, check out the Harvard Law School Section 5 Blog at: saucyintruders.blogspot.com, which has a link to this email address also. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.237.231 (talk) 21:44, 13 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Long, pointless text

No, its not Nick, although Nick is quite amused by all this controversy. The section of the website, which is called the Advisor, http://internal.law.harvard.edu/adviser/2005/12/08/general.php, is protected. Hence, I can forward you the email that has the listing of titles (although the links wont work for you). The Advisor is the internal site at Harvard Law School that lists all the events and things happening on campus. Here is the email with the links: HLS Adviser: 2005-12-08

HLS Adviser: PDF

Administrative Announcements Adviser Schedule Spring 2006 T Pass Orders E-mail Alert De-Stress Exam Study Break for 2Ls and 3Ls See "Midnight Pancake Breakfast" in Events section. Resident Assistant on Duty

Career Services HLS Job Bank NEWS @ OCS International Opportunities 2006 Judicial Clerkships

Clinical and Pro Bono Programs Clinical Program Information Important Clinical Deadlines See "Death Penalty Clinical Meeting" Events section. Pro Bono Information Hurricane Relief Opportunities For Students

Competitions International Online Competition in Negotiation and Dispute Resolution Sovereignty Symposium Scholarships

Course Announcements Winter Term Courses Food and Drug Law, Winter Term (Hutt) International Law and International Relations, Winter Term (Hathaway) Winter Trial Advocacy Workshop (Murray, et. al.) Spring Term Courses Developing an Interdisciplinary Approach to Health Management for Older Adults (GR 705.40) Legal Issues: Seminar (Professors Heymann and Rosenberg) Quantitative Social Science, Law, Expert Witnesses, and Litigation: Seminar (Stephenson, Rubin--FAS, Greiner--FAS) Possible Writing Group on Human Trafficking and Involuntary Servitude (Sidel)

Events Yearbook Portraits for All Classes The Forgotten 'Refugees': Protecting People Uprooted in their Own Countries Speaker's Freedom and Maker's Knowledge: The Case of Pornography Death Penalty Clinical Meeting Auction Night--Fun and Excitement The UN and Human Rights: An Informal Conversation with the New High Commissioner DOJ Information Session for 1Ls Scales of Justice Fall Concert Why We Want Immediate Withdrawal From Iraq and You Should Too: A Lunch Discussion With HLS Peace Conversation with Congressman Sherrod Brown (D-OH) Heyman Fellowship Panel: Young Alums in Federal Government Public Interest Auction 2006 Volunteer Kickoff Meeting Midnight Pancake Breakfast Catholic Mass


Fellowships Lewis and Houston Fellowships for Law Teaching Reginald Lewis International Summer 2006 Internships

Financial Aid--J.D. Students Summer Public Interest Funding December E-Bill (The "Spring" Bill) Second Semester Cash Advance Checks Outside Resources Zuckerman Fellowships Iranian-American Bar Association Jewish Federation of Metropolitan Chicago Academic Scholarship Program The Bristol County Bar Association

General Interest Happy Nick Rose Day Holiday Gift Drive HLS Giving Tree: A Gift Drive for Homeless Children Seeking Nominations for 2006-07 Scholars at Risk Fellows

Informational Technology Services ITS Student Services Changes in Help Desk/Computer Lab Schedule Exam Quiet Hours Take-Home Exam Computer Reservation Tips for Avoiding Computer Disasters During Exams New iCommons Contact for Auditors/Cross-registered Students

Jobs Student Assistants Sought for Winter Trial Advocacy Workshop Promote Ideas of the Harvard Negotiation Project Seeking an Assistant for Student with a Disability Professors Roe and Ferrell Seek RA Professor Goldsmith Seeks Summer RA

Library Exam and Holiday Hours Westlaw Westlaw Weekly Search Tip You've Got Questions, We've Got Answers

Public Interest Walk-in Hours Brief OPIA Closings Mass Law Consortium Job Fair at Suffolk Switzer Fellowship Deadline Rebellious Lawyering Conference Deadline for SPIF Registration is tomorrow, Dec. 9. See details in the Financial Aid--J.D. section. See "Public Interest Auction 2006 Volunteer Kickoff Meeting" and "Heyman Fellowship Panel: Young Alums in Federal Government" in Events section. See "Holiday Gift Drive" in the General Interest section.

General Information


To view this week's Adviser online, visit: http://internal.law.harvard.edu/adviser/

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.237.231 (talk) 02:12, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Comments

  • Why look: it's a whole lot of typing, alleging to be a bulletin, but unverfiable because its supposed source is completely inaccessible to the public. My bullshit meter has officially pegged.


The anon 140.247.237.231 (talk · contribs) defending this nonsense left a message on my Talk page. My reply to the IP talk, but reproduced here to be sure he sees it:

I don't know why you are so bent on deleting this, but you are mistaken. Nick had nothing to do with the entry. We invited you to email and talk to us. If you care enough, you can find out the truth. Otherwise, just leave the page alone.

Nick or whomever you are:

Spare me the invitation as there is nothing to "discuss". This is not a negotiation, these are standards -- and not my standards, Wikipedia's standards -- you must meet. Don't like 'em? Go to MySpace.


  • Wikipedia:Verifiability - What you put here has to be third-party verifiable. References provided by the subject don't count. If Nick Rose Day is true and notable, then it should simplicity itself to point to third-party, independent (i.e.; unmassaged or tampered with by you) references. Harvard's offcial website seems the simplest, most obvious, and least prone to tampering, and ought to have something on its official pages. Point us to the specific (public) page or some other third-party source.
  • Wikipedia:Vanity - "Vanity articles", as Wikipedia calls them, are verboten. to quote:
    • Vanity information is considered to be any information that was placed in any Wikipedia article that might create an apparent conflict of interest, meaning any material that presents the appearance of being intended to in any way promote the personal notoriety of the author, or one of the close family members or associates of the author.
    • This article is bursting at the seams with vanity.
  • Wikipedia:Autobiography - If you're Nick, don't write about yourself.

Also, if you're a law student, shouldn't you:

a) understand the importance of and be familiar with the rules of an undertaking; i.e., Wikipedia?
b) understand the importance of and be familiar with working within the rules instead of trying to sleaze your way around them?
c) be able to write clearly? The article looks like it wouldn't pass muster in a junior-high English class.

--Calton | Talk 05:21, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wow. It appears that Wikipedia is overrun by people with way too much time on their hands, something which I do not have. I can no longer fight this battle. If you want verification, I will forward you emails from a harvard law school account. I can take pictures of stuff for you. whatever you want. I can not change that fact that Harvard Law School protects that part of its site. I dont know what else you want from me. That article was written by a few students here. We are in the middle of finals here, hence the lack of careful attention to editing etc. I cant defend this anymore. If you are so nuts about deleting it then just do it. Maybe some day I wil re-post it and try and work this all out. Everything here can be verified. And no, this is not done by Nick.

— Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.163.141.101 (talk) 06:02, 14 December 2005 (UTC)[reply]

  • Wow. It appears that Wikipedia is overrun by people with way too much time on their hands, something which I do not have. Funny, you seemed to have plenty of time to whip up this nonsense -- and concoct excuses why you couldn't prove it -- to be talking about other people with "way too much time on their hands".
  • "And guy, "overrun"? If this is what passes for legal thinking at one of America's most prestigious law schools, I fear for the future of American jurisprudence. --Calton | Talk 08:55, 14 December 2005 (UTC)" - since when is a wikipedia entry classified as legal thinking? Does a proctologist have to talk about anuses all day? Not everything done by a lawyer (let alone a law student) meets the rigourous critera for formal legal reasoning. Ever hear of the law of diminishing returns? Well, putting too much effort into something like Wikipedia would not be very smart, would it?
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