Talk:Doctor Who missing episodes
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I figured that splitting this off would make people more willing to dive in rather than expand an already bloated main article, and I'm happy to see I was right. :) This is on its way to being a candidate for peer review and perhaps after that FAC. It'd be good to have a completely non-crufty Doctor Who FA. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 02:18, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- I agree. Sometimes, it's difficult to find something to do when activity slows, so a new article always livens things up. Also, I was on RC patrol today and noticed you moving "Doctor Who Missing Episodes" (then a redirect) to the current title, and knew you were up to something :). It's interesting what you say about the FAC, because although I think Doctor (Doctor Who) and History of Doctor Who are fantastic articles, they get quite geeky at times (of course, I don't doubt that many of us consider that a good thing, but that's that) and are therefore unlikely to get Featured status :( , but I can see this one (with some rewriting and expanding, of course) getting through. --Sean Jelly Baby? 02:32, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- I think History of Doctor Who only gets particularly geeky when it reaches the new series bit – mind you, I probably would say that given that I wrote most of the earlier stuff! However, there's a good reason for that. With the 'classic series' history it's easier to pick out what was important, but with the new series the temptation is to throw *everything* in because we have so much detail so readily available, which is why it's a bit out of proportion to the other sections at the moment. Anyway, as for this piece, it'd be great if we could get it up to FA standard. It would certainly be good to have a 'serious' Doctor Who piece there, and also it would be good to have a high-standard article on the problem of junkings, as the general Wiping (magnetic tape) page isn't that great and probably in the wrong place anyway, as it also refers to the junking of telerecordings. But anyway, that's not really for here. Angmering 08:51, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
- Hey, good luck with the current FA candidacy! I hope my little two cents can help :) --JohnDBuell | Talk 17:11, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- Oh and one teeny weenie little quibble - chronologically shouldn't the section on Recovery come BEFORE the section on Restoration? --JohnDBuell | Talk 17:37, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- I thought that, and re-structured it as such at one point. M'learned friends disagreed by the looks of it. Anybody have any other thoughts on the matter? Angmering 17:40, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- My fault, I'm afraid. I shuffled Restoration before Recovery because I felt that it made more chronological sense, as Recovery has specific events (i.e. the clips from The Power of the Daleks) that take us all the way to the present day. Go ahead and resuffle them if you feel strongly enough about it. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:40, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- I've made the switch. Even with the specific events thing, I do feel it sits more comfortably that way — after all, you can't restore something if you've never recovered it. (Although of course much of the restoration work is on stuff that was never entirely missing, i.e. the Pertwees and some of the sixties serials). Angmering 22:56, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
- That was about the way I felt about it. Perhaps not exactly chronological, but recovery, to me, logically seemed that it should precede restoration. You're doing an excellent job with the article and the material; I just cast my vote in the FA candidacy. --JohnDBuell | Talk 23:34, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
Syfy Portal
Check this out - horrible typos (like BCC, and "103" missing episodes instead of 108), but does anyone else get the feeling this was researched using Wikipedia? --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:27, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
- If by "research", you mean they skimmed this article and didn't look at anything else, then yes :). Nice to know somebody's watching, though. BTW, how'd you find that?--Sean|Black 22:51, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
- Now that I read it more I think whoever wrote it based it on an older version of the missing episodes info. But be that as it may - I found it on Google News, doing a periodic "Doctor Who" troll through the search engine. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 23:24, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
Missing Without Trace
Should the Missing Without Trace website be listed as a link? Much of the information is inaccurate. Although significantly improved over the years, there are still some really wild and unrealistic comments in it. And it doesn't appear to have been a reference used in writing the text? User:DrPaulLee appears to have added this link today to this article. Nfitz 19:38, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
- Technically, it isn't listed as a reference, but given that it's been put in by the author, we can justifably remove it as vanity. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 23:46, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
- Agreed. Though Paul's article is certainly quite noteworthy in some manner - if only for it's place in fandom history. I've put some text on his own [User:DrPaulLee|page]. Perhaps it is his original article that is noteworthy! There aren't any "Doctor Who Fandom" pages are there? Or some kind of section on history and rumours, etc ... Nfitz 18:50, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Death in Canada
Why would the CBC have had a copy of Death to the Daleks episode one? Surely they didn't show anything between The Keys of Marinus and Rose? Should this in fact read TV Ontario? Angmering 18:25, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- Ah, mea culpa. I knew it was a Canadian station and thought it was that one. But which station was it who took over from TV Ontario in the late 1980s and took the series across the whole continent? Timrollpickering 22:14, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- I'm no expert on the Canadian showings, but I believe that aside from the CBC showings in the 1960s and from 2005, it's only ever been nationally networked in Canada on the Space: The Imagination Station cable network for a brief period in the 1990s. Aside from that I think it was all regional. I wouldn't take that as gospel however — I will change the CBC mention in the article, though. Angmering 22:21, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- YTV started airing Doctor Who nationally in around 1988; being the first network to air Season 25 and Season 26. They aired the older material until 1992 or 1993 or so. Space picked up the Hartnell through Ambassadors of Death which they aired nationally from 1996 to 2000. And BBC Kids has been airing all the extant colour serials (Pertwee to McCoy) nationally continuously since 2001. Regionally, TVO aired Doctor Who from 1976 to 1991, but only in Ontario (though I used to watch it on cable in Quebec). CKVU in Vancouver aired 13 of the Pertwee serials in the early 1980's. And the only other Canadian airing I'm aware of is TFO's French-language Ontario broadcasts in the 1990's. Wasn't Death to the Daleks colour material from Canada returned from BBC Enterprises office in Toronto? Not sure if the tape that was returned was ever at YTV (or just a copy that they would have later wiped). Nfitz 00:49, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
The Web of Fear episode 1
A listing of archive material drawn up in 1976 for the Whose Doctor Who documentary (reproduced in Nothing at the End of the Lane 2) apparently shoots down a number of previously assumed facts about the archives (although it may not be 100% accurate - the holdings for Season 6 suggests someone got their episode numbers muddled). One of the surprises is that it lists a copy of this episode as existing back in 1976. Should we list this as a subsequent recovery or not? Timrollpickering 21:35, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Questions about Editing Okay, why are you allowed to edit items, but when I do, I immediately get threatened to have my access revoked? Seems like someone is having a power trip in my opinion. I am only trying to improve the site. Ian Levine's harsh comments are necessary in my view due to the fact that he represents the attitude of the average fan who was taken in by "fans" like Roger Barret and Darren Gregory. I can also back up the source of these materials if necessary. It seems contrary to the goal of this website, which is anyone can be an editor.