Wikipedia talk:Music standards archive 1
I have a question I think we should decide on. Some lists of bands are organized by the performers last name, and this is often fine and dandy. However, it gets sticky with Bobby Fuller Four and Brian Setzer Orchestra (where it just looks weird) and the downright confusing issue of whether Alice Cooper and Marilyn Manson are a person or a band. The answer, of course, is both, though not necessarily at the same time. A lot of music sites put artists by their first name always (allmusic, vh1, some others) -- it could be for this reason, or because they use computers that don't know the difference when they alphabetize. What do others think? Tokerboy
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I disagree with Goatasaur's assertion that a-ha and k.d. lang should be capitalized against their will, except maybe at the beginning of a sentence for clarity's sake. Of course, the title of the article has to begin with an uppercase letter, but I don't see any reason to do it in the body of articles. Tokerboy
I've done prose stuff at 1983 in music, 1991 in music, 1992 in music and 1977 in music.
It would be nice if we had a list of bands that do not take the. Since I'm not sure, I'll list the ones I don't think take the article as part of the name here in talk for now:
- Googling is inconclusive: Bobby Fuller Four, Brides of Funkenstein, Dave Clark Five, Electric Prunes, Lovin' Spoonful, New York Dolls, Sex Pistols, Verve Pipe, Youngbloods
- Googling indicated there is a the: The Fabulous Thunderbirds, The Get-Up Kids, The Jesus & Mary Chain, The New Amsterdams, The Smashing Pumpkins
I don't know if there is any way to truly confirm any of these, except maybe by e-mailing their record company or agent to see what's on the actual contract. Tuf-Kat
I don't think there's any need to list bands that do take the article on the policy page, as the list would be much too long. Bands that don't take the article are the exception, so they should be listed. Maybe a list of ones that seem like they don't take it but really do, like the Smashing Pumpkins, whom I could have sworn did not take the article (maybe that's just me). Tuf-Kat
- Since no one complained, I removed that list.
Can anyone name a genre that is always capitalized? People seem to like doing that, so I'd like to add a little somethin-somethin to the standards listing the genres that are capitalized. The only one I can think of is New Wave (and, I suppose, No Wave), and the place-names in Chicago blues or Memphis soul -- I think there are more that are always capitalized, but can't think of them. Tuf-Kat
Question about the following:
- Don't use piped links to the "year in music" articles (i.e. do not write "the Beatles released Please Please Me in 1963"). Instead, link to the normal year article (1963) and, sparingly use parentheses after years mentioned in the article, such as "the Beatles released Please Please Me in 1963 (see 1963 in music)".
Why is this rule here? For most music articles, it seems far more relevent to link to the *_in_music page than to the year itself. - RobLa 17:32 Mar 1, 2003 (UTC)
- heh...answered my own question. I missed the link to the Wikipedia talk:Music standards archive 1. I'm leaving this on the page because I think this will be an FAQ - RobLa 17:42 Mar 1, 2003 (UTC)
Please see Wikipedia talk:Timeline standards for a discussion of a "Proposal for new header". This proposal makes it less of an issue to link to 1977 instead of linking to [ 1977 in music|1977 ], since in either case, it's easy to get to the 1977 in music page. -- RobLa 06:16 Mar 4, 2003 (UTC)
Does anybody know where to find chart positions for UK, Australia, Jamaica, etc? Tuf-Kat
Neither of these are very useful. Does anybody know who does the official charts, as much as there is one, and/or know of a site that includes archives? Tuf-Kat
Unless anybody complains, I will add something about soundtrack titling. They should be at Saturday Night Fever (soundtrack). There's only maybe a half-dozen soundtracks that deserve an article IMHO, but I'll add it to the list of standards unless there are qualms. Tuf-Kat
Track Listings
There was some suggestion that track listings were going to be done with MusicBrainz or some other listings site - did that get anywhere? Thinking here of Michael's contributions... Martin