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Proposals, October 2006

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NEW PROPOSALS

Category:Track and field athletics biography stubs split

I propose a split of the above category based on some of the remaining continents and other countries

— Preceding unsigned comment added by Waacstats (talk • contribs)

Sounds like a good plan to me: support all. Alai 23:50, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Switzerland

There is no category for Switzerland or Swiss. There should be subcats for Swiss people, history, and such. -- Alarob 03:02, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Rename Category:Palestine stubs to Category:Palestinian stubs

Palestine is the region, and this deals with the proposed Palestinian state and west bank and gaza. Amoruso 20:06, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{naruto-stub}} and Category:Naruto stubs

This will make {{anime-stub}} a great deal smaller as a subcat of it. If you use the List of Naruto episodes and check each of the articles from sections Season 6 and Season 7 you'll find enough to cover the 60 or so to create this stub category. A majority of these episode articles are stubs, not just those seasons that I just used as an example. If I were to guess I'd say there are approximately 100 just linking from that list of episodes article and they are bloating the anime-stub category. However there are also many other Naruto based pages that are stubs, not just the episode pages. For example: Rookie Nine and Naruto the Movie 3: The Animal Riot of Crescent Moon Island --Squilibob 13:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Good plan, then. The parent's been getting very big, high time it was tackled... Alai 15:51, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{aircraft-component-stub}} and Category:Aircraft component stubs

We already have Category:Aircraft components, but no corresponding one for stubs. I'm proposing that the stub woks as a subcategory of {{aircraft-stub}} (obviously).
Also, {{engine-aircraft-stub}} and Category:Aircraft engines stubs
See Category:Aircraft engines. Like above, we have no corresponding stub category for engines.
I'm thinking that have the engine stub as a sub of components would make the most sense and allow for further splitting of the components section later on.
I've also made a list of articles that would qualify for both new stubs. I've only gone through the Category:Aviation stubs so far, so I'm sure I'll turn up more fairly quickly. Thadius856 01:36, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds plausible to me; given that an engine is a component, the two could be merged, if the worst came to the worst. As the aviation stubs are over 600, fairly timely, too. I might add a redirect to a template name in somewhat less Reverse Polish style, though. Alai 02:32, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Sounds great, Alai. What would you recommend for the redirects? {{aircraft-engine-stub}} and {{aircraft-component-stub}}? Thadius856 03:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That's what sprang to mind. Alai 04:01, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Proposed templates

Category:Aircraft component stubs


Category:Aircraft engine stubs


{{Richmond-California-stub}} / Cat:Richmond, California

[[Category:Richmond, California]], [[Category:Richmond City Council, California]] and others that i have yet to track down, many WWII Navy Ship articles also.Qrc2006 23:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

108 is small? it is larger and i renamed it to conform to that scope, im inexperianeced and now know how to name it correctly., you concur with me? with what? Qrc2006 08:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • There are 108 articles in the Richmond, California category and its subcategories as of oct 10 2006. Qrc2006 08:12, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
    • QFC2006: I was concurring on SFD with Alai for deletion of {{richmond-ca-stub}}. Sorry for the typos. Now, while I agree with you that there are a decent amount of articles in the Richmond category, I don't think the scope of the proposed stub category is large enough. You see, it's only natural for articles to be listed under multiple categories, but it is my impression that one of this WikiProject's purposes is to be able to categorize all stubs sufficiently by only adding one stub tag to each stub article. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong... I'm pretty new to this as well. Thadius856 09:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

this isnt a wikiproject tho, ohhh is that how it works? that if a stub that allready exists can cover any of these articles a new stub isnt neaded?Qrc2006 04:24, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • that's basically it, unless there's a group dedicated to working on one particular subject (such as a WikiProject). Look at it this way - we already have over 2000 stub templates and categories to try to keep track of. If every city in the US (or, let's face it, every city in the world) got its own stub template and category, how many would need to be patrolled? And, unlike the main, permanent categories, stub categories aren't really designed for navigation by readers - they are designed to be used by editors and precise enough for them to know that they've got a good chance of expanding articles in a category, but still coarse enough not to have the category with a small and quickly emptied population. As for whether 108 articles is enough - that's 108 articles. Just because there are articles on a subject doesn't mean they'll all be stubs - even if half of them were stubs them there'd be fewer than the 60 threshold. Thjadius isn't quite right, though - two or three stubs on an article is perfectly fine, though a specific town or city is not likely to be one of the first two or three things that a person would search for when looking for articles to expand. As to what stubs would be more appropriate, if the articles are geographical (places in Richmond), then California-geo-stub or one of its subctypes would be more appropriate (IIRC California has been broken up largely by country for geo-stubs) for politicians, California-politician-stub. For WWII naval ships, there is USN-stub and WWII-stub, and so on. Grutness...wha? 04:53, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{dance-bio-stub}} / Category:Dance biographical stubs

117 just under Category:Dance occupations; haven't trolled the Category:People stubs yet. Her Pegship 22:16, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

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This article related to an art display, art museum or gallery in the United Kingdom is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

and Category:Art museums and galleries in the United Kingdom stubs ===

How about it, just like the United States new art museum/gallery stub section. When stubbing last night the UK was the most stubby museum subcategories (see Category:Art museums and galleries in the United Kingdom) aside from the United States. There are what 400 UK --(245) museum stubs to check as well. (I have this kind of art museum temporarily double stubbed as both UK-museum-stubs and art-display-stubs, but just one UK-art-display-stub would be better for art museum grouping and counting). Goldenrowley 20:13, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I see that {{UK-museum-stub}} has 200 pages in its contents. How many of these would you say could qualify as being under the new stub? If it's > 60, I'd support it. Thadius856 21:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Stub sensor says 105 (not just there, also in museum-stubs and other places). I saw definitely enough to group as a set. Goldenrowley 22:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Transportation stubs

Cat:Transportation_stubs: Can a stub cat be created for this? Wiki-uk 14:12, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

That's a fair question. It's not immediately clear to me if there's huge numbers of transport-in-general stubs that would need a "misc." type, but there's bound to be a few. (Do you have any idea how many?) At present, the vast majority of these will be sorted to a more specific stub type: rail-, road-, airport-, vehicle-, etc, and their manifold subtypes. But if there's even a moderate number, it might make sense to have this to also serve as a "semi-container". Alai 16:27, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm also wondering about the quantity of stubs that would fall under this umbrella. I'm guessing that hybridized modes of transportation (not to be confused with hybrid engines in cars) could find this useful. However, I can only think of one type that might vaguely categorize as such: subways. However, they more likely fall into {{Rail-stub}}, as they're just underground railways. If there's enough articles, I may support it. Thadius856 18:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I was thinking in terms of articles like "Department of Transport (Small Country)", or anything about transportation-in-general. Alai 00:51, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
A {{metro-stub}} already exists, by the looks of it... and is quite useful, judging by recent discoveries listed at WP:WSS/D... as to the original request, a transportation category is probably a very good idea as a parent for all the subtypes mentioned, though it might be better as a parent-only (i.e., with no template) unless there are a large number of stubs that wouldn't be otherwise categorisable. Grutness...wha? 23:16, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Oceania-airport-stub}} / Category:Oceanian airport stubs

We already have stub categories for North American, South American, African, Asian, and European airport stubs. I'm assuming this is a breakdown by continent, since Cental American and Carribean are subs of North American. It only makes logical sense to add in the 7th continent - Australia.

I've composed a list of airports that are eligible for movement if the new stub and cat subs are created. It should be more than enough to justify creating them.

Proposed stub layout:

  This article about a Oceanian airport is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.
Category:Oceanian airport stubs

If accepted, don't forget to remove the : I placed before the Category link. Thanks! Thadius856 00:05, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actually, it probably makes more sense to have {{oceania-airport-stub}} first (which I would support), since Australia is counted primarily as part of Oceania on wikipedia and this type would be a little more all-encompassing. It would also cope with the three on the list that you weren't sure about. (Norfolk Island would automatically count in Oceania anyway - the other two are a little more problematical, but would normally go under Australia). The breakdown isn't strictly by continent, BTW - just by whatever continental/regional grouping makes most sense size-wise (usually but not always continent - for some things we split off things like the Middle East). As to the stub layout, it would be standardised like the other airport stub types - i.e., as you've done it, but not centred! Grutness...wha? 00:16, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with Grutness. An Oceania stub would make more sense. Then the only things left in the airport stub category would be non-airports. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 01:42, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I agree too, though it's not far off being viable to have both, by the looks of it; I count 50 airport-stubs under
. No harm to have an upmerged Australia-airport-stub, at the least (just not a centred one, I hope). Alai 02:28, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I hadn't planned on it being centered; that was just for style here, as the bold heading above it looked a little funky with both left-aligned. I've removed the centering and indented it here, so it doesn't look like the end of my original request. I was under the impression that only small islands were considered "Oceania", but I suppose it makes sense. I'm not an Aussie, so I'm by no means an authority on this. Alai: once I'm done with all the California airports (at least a week left), I plan on starting up stubs for all of the Aussie ones too, which will make enough...
...if there's no objections, I'll go ahead and make the Oceania stub once we've reached the 7 day mark. Thadius856 04:00, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
FWIW, I'm not an Aussie eithr, but I am a Kiwi, so I've got some idea about it :) And yes, if this is here for seven days with no objections, go for it! Grutness...wha? 04:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I've updated the proposal above to avoid any confusion of those who haven't been following it. Counting down the days! :) Thadius856 09:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Dumb question. If I'm making the "upmerged" version, do I make both Oceania with Australia as a sub, or just make the Oceania and put Austalian airports in there? (Please excuse my newbness, couldn't find any Wiki namespace articles on Upmerging.) Thadius856 20:07, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Upmerging is basically where you have a template that feeds into its parent category without having its own category. So you would have {{Oceania-airport-stub}} which would feed into Category:Oceanian airport stubs and a {{Australia-airport-stub}} which would also feed into Category:Oceanian airport stubs instead of its own Category:Australian airport stubs. Does that makes sense? ~ Amalas rawr =^_^= 20:17, 11 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Makes perfect sense! Thank you. Would there be an issue if somebody was to unknowingly list it under both? Would it be listed twice in the cat, or is Wikipedia already prepared to deal with that? Thadius856 03:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I don't think so; this seems to happen semi-regularly for (sub)categories, and aside from one sort-key overriding the other in some less-than-obvious manner, it doesn't seem to cause any problem. Alai 04:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{US-Congress-stub}}/Category:United States Congress stubs

This subcategory to Category:United States government stubs will be supported by Project Congress. The parent category currently has about 1000 articles. A quick glance at the first 200 articles found at least 30 articles that fit into the proposed stub category. There are also articles in Category:United States politics stubs that would fit here.--G1076 06:49, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

List of articles to be re-stubbed

Proposed stub layout

   This United States Congress-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

Hmmm. the icon's a bit unwieldy - certainly a bit longer than the preferred 35-50 pixels. But any smaller and it'll be indistinguishable from the side view of a Klingon Bird Of Prey :) Might I suggest the following icon instead:
 
Grutness...wha? 04:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That seems a little large, and none too clear either. Might I suggest either of the above, cropped to the capitol dome? Alai 05:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I have removed the Bird of Prey icon   and replaced it with a much better image. Note that the image is of the Capitol in one of its formative incarnations--kinda like a stub version of the Capitol.--G1076 05:14, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've created a gallery, below, for ease of discussion. Feel free to add more.—Markles 13:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

A. USCapitol 1829:

   This United States Congress-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

B. Image:Uscapitoldome.png:

   This United States Congress-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

C. USCapitol1801:

   This United States Congress-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

D. United States Capitol at sunset, 2004.:

E. US Capitol Dome High Res Jan 2006:

   This United States Congress-related article is a stub. You can help Wikipedia by expanding it.

I don't think →the "Bird of Prey"←(C. USCapitol1801.jpg) is a good idea. You can't tell what it is at stub size. The "Bird of Prey" ("A. USCapitol 1829") isn't distinguishable as pertaining to Congress (at least to the untrained eye). I've added a couple from Category:Images of the United States Congress, for your discussion.—Markles 13:04, 10 October 2006 (UTC) modified by --G1076 13:51, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Category:English football club stubs split

This has been oversized for a while now, but it's not hugely clear how to split it. No "named league" seems to be viable as a type unto itself: closest is Category:Spartan South Midlands Football League at 54 articles, and a few others in the same ballpark. (Categorisation seems to be fairly good, so I don't think these are subject to any large amount of undercounting.) There's no permcats by "level" or "step" of the league system, and besides those would change fairly often. As geographical ___location obviously doesn't (well, not much...), and as most of these stubs seem to be level 9 or lower, I suggest we split according to the level 7 or level 8 leagues these all "feed" into. That is, either:

or else:

I'm open to suggestions as to how to word these to make clear they're not necessarily in these leagues, but simply are in those particular "hierarchies". Alai 02:49, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'm not overly happy with this method - the problem, of course, is teams get promoted and relegated. And there are some cases where a team can tumble through several leagues if it runs into financial difficulty (most recently, this happened to Canvey Island, only last season). I'd be far happier to split geographically - the fact that the lower leagues are more or less geographically split into northwest, northeast, southwest and home counties would give us a head start, too. Grutness...wha? 03:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hm. I misread what you meant, sorry. A geo-split and a split by league isn't quite identical, since a team near the borders of two regions can find itself shuttling backwards and forwards between two regional set-ups (not that that's a big problem, it only affects a handful of teams). But it was the tying of the names directly to the different leagues that folled me... perhaps it would be better if we named them as EnglandNW-footyclub-stub, etc.? Grutness...wha? 03:54, 9 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Anatomy subtypes

I'd proposed a couple of possible splits previously, but these might be a little better-scoped. Given that the anatomy type is at seven pages, and only 400-odd have anatomy permcats, I don't propose to worry too much about the latter count being <60. Alai 19:27, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

{{Albania-bio-stub}} / Category:Albania people stubs

I am proposing this stub with some hesistancy. By hand count, I found 71 people under {{Albania-stub}} but some of these are definitely people from Kosovo, Macedonia, or Montenegro that are ethnic Albanians. What is the stub-sorting policy for those disputed people?--Thomas.macmillan 17:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • It's not like we have any actual policy on anything, strictly speaking, and on this, I don't think we even have any formal guidelines for people to ignore. But I think there's been a general sentiment against "ethnic" types, which would suggest to me that Albania-stub, or any Albania-bio-stub, be applied only to those with a direct connection to the modern state. (Admittedly there are cases like Ukraine-stub, where application is to several different historical states, and none, but this sounds like an even more dubious case.) Alai 17:38, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Actors by continent

As the five-page Template:Actor stubs has only 329 also under Category:Actors by nationality, I'm factoring in a certain "John the Baptist" factor, and assuming that:

will be viable, after some manual sorting. Indeed, it's quite likely that Category:Brazilian actor stubs will be too, at 25 in the above, but to be on the safe side, I'm instead going to propose:

Which I'm assuming will be a racing certainty. Alai 14:35, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Support both per nom. "John the Baptist"?!? Her Pegship 20:08, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
    • "he'll buy anyone's premise, just bump it down 25 percent" -- "That guy over there says he's Jesus Christ; even if he's lying, he's John the Baptist." Alai 06:25, 13 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Record labels by country

As Category:Record labels by country has only 248 articles, these seem likely to be viable, if sorted the hard way. Alai 04:01, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

United States Coast Guard stub

I would like to propose the creation of a stub category for the United States Coast Guard as a sub category for United States military stubs --Skapur 16:38, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

There are more articles. Some are put in US-mil-bio-stub (like Frank A. Welch that you put in there), some do not have a stub tag and I intend to create more articles on individual USCG districts, sectors, stations and cutters that do not have a page that will start out as stubs. There are articles that are tagged with USN-stub like Naval Helicopter Association that could as well be tagged with a Coast Guard stub. See the category "United States naval ship stubs" as another example --- Skapur 19:07, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
In addition the US Coast Guard performs a lot of non-military functions (e.g. search and rescue, licensing of mariners etc., Aids to navigation maintenance, recreational boating safety etc.) that really do not belong in a pure US-mil-stub. --- Skapur 19:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
But you don't say how many more. If the issue is completeness or scoping clarity, I'd have no objection to a template, upmerged until such time as there's 60. Alai 20:56, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
That sounds like a very workable solution. By my count there are approximately 30 articles currently in the US-mil-stub category that can get a proposed USCG-stub. Thanks --- Skapur 05:16, 8 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Here are 79 articles that could get the stub that currently have US-mil-stub:
  1. Advanced Boat Force Operations Badge
  2. Advanced Helicopter Training
  3. Ancient Order of the Pterodactyls
  4. Anthony Petit
  5. Badges of the United States Coast Guard
  6. Baltimore Maritime Museum
  7. Barbara Mabrity
  8. Boat safety
  9. Car-boat
  10. Coast Guard "E" Ribbon
  11. Coast Guard Arctic Service Medal
  12. Coast Guard Bicentennial Unit Commendation
  13. Coast Guard Command Enlisted Identification Badge
  14. Coast Guard Honor Guard Badge
  15. Coast Guard Intelligence
  16. Coast Guard Investigative Service
  17. Coast Guard One
  18. Command Master Chief Petty Officer
  19. Commandant's Letter of Commendation Ribbon
  20. Commandant Staff Badge
  21. Coxswain Badge
  22. Cutterman Enlisted Badge
  23. Damage controlman
  24. Dassault Falcon
  25. Elmer Fowler Stone
  26. Enlisted Person of the Year Ribbon
  27. Fast Response Cutter
  28. Flag of the United States Coast Guard
  29. Flag State
  30. Gary Blore
  31. George Cobb
  32. Great Lakes Floating Maritime Museum
  33. Great Lakes Shipwreck Museum
  34. Harbourmaster
  35. Integrated Support Command Kodiak
  36. International Search and Rescue Competition
  37. James Rankin
  38. Joshua Applebey
  39. Katherine Walker
  40. Lighthouse tender
  41. Lightvessels in the United States
  42. Maria Bray
  43. Marine Environmental Protection
  44. Marine Investigation (USCG)
  45. Marine Military Academy
  46. MARSEC
  47. Menemsha, Massachusetts
  48. Merchant Mariner's Document
  49. Meritorious Team Commendation
  50. Military of Palau
  51. Military of the Bahamas
  52. National Museum of Naval Aviation
  53. National Vessel Movement Center
  54. Naval Aviator Badge
  55. Naval Helicopter Association
  56. Navigational aid
  57. Office of the Secretary of Homeland Defense Identification Badge
  58. Office of the Secretary of Transportation Identification Badge
  59. Operational Distinguishing Device
  60. Operational Dress Uniform
  61. Physician Assistant and Nurse Practitioner Badge
  62. Port Security Badge
  63. Port State
  64. Restricted Duty Ribbon
  65. Secretary of Transportation Outstanding Unit Award
  66. Shore patrol
  67. SPARS
  68. Special Operations Service Ribbon
  69. Surfman Badge
  70. Surfmen
  71. Tactical Law Enforcement Badge
  72. Underwater Port Security System
  73. United States Coast Guard Reserve
  74. US Coast Guard in popular culture
  75. USCG aids to navigation boat
  76. USCG Air-Sea Rescue, at USAF Base, Kindley Field
  77. USCG Base, Whites Island, Bermuda. WWI
  78. William Charles Bowser
  79. William J. Kossler Award

south indian bank in the banks stub category

it appears to be, yes. And it's a stub article on a bank, so that makes perfect sense. Your point is...? Grutness...wha? 23:15, 7 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Old business

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UK structs by county

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The result of the debate was create.

Just the Berks one will take care of the oversized parent for the time being, Yorkshire one is close to threshold, and after that we're likely looking at English regions. Alai 16:35, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Food subtypes

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The result of the debate was create meat, cooking technique, and bread.

These look viable on the basis of permcats. Five-page-parent. About 70 undersorted desserts too, seemingly. Alai 22:35, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Linguistics subtypes

In this case, I'm not at all clear which the "sensible" subtypes would be, so I'm more-or-less exhaustively listing all the top-level subcats of Category:Linguistics that seem to be numerically viable, based on membership of each of those subtrees. A couple of those should be sufficient to take care of the oversizedness for the time being. Alai 22:03, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I would use "Syntax stubs" instead of "Grammar stubs" since grammar includes phonology. And what's the distinction you're making between "Place name stubs" and "Toponymy stubs", and wouldn't both of them fall under "Onomastics stubs" anyway? What's the difference between "Words stubs" and the already existing Category:Vocabulary and usage stubs? Angr 04:21, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Beats me: I'm just following the names of, and counting of the basis of, the existing permcats. Alai 14:15, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Words-Stubs is not very descriptive. Let's say I have an article about history of a word. Should we avoid the issue and nominate to move it to Wiktionary, or stub it. I think Place-Names-stubs is redundant and takes away from geography stub articles. So I think those two can be removed and the articles inside re-stubified as a root language, i.e. whether French-root-stub, Latin-root-stub, RomanceLanguage-root-stub, etc. Goldenrowley 03:31, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Separately the other stub names are obscure. I'd just like to make sure we have place to list languages by continents, i.e. there are Native American language articles (see Karkin language for example). I see it has a sensible stub.
Ok so I guess I need to answer your question. I think grammar is viable by your count, everything else is questionably divided. Do you like the idea of language-root-stubs? Goldenrowley
Most language stubs are grouped by language family, not by continent (Indo-European, Afro-Asiatic, Austronesian, etc.). The Native American ones are grouped together because (1) there are so many language families and (2) there are so few languages that we have even stub articles about. Angr 06:11, 5 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Here are the permanent categories that I was trying to describe the other day as a possible useful stub category: Category:Etymology and-or Category:English words of foreign origin Goldenrowley 04:20, 6 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
OK, I've split out the phonetics, which "de-viable-ises" the phonology type. Place names, toponymy and onomastics overlap almost completely. I'm likely to split either one of the former two, or sociolinguistics next: any bids? Alai 05:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Various musicial instrument subtypes

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The result of the debate was create.

Yes, the parent is oversized -- doesn't the mind boggle? A couple of broader types would be viable instead ("chordophone stubs", "wind instrument proper stubs" and such like), but other than in the last case I've exercised some selectivity and restraint in what I'm presenting. Alai 21:35, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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Category:United States area code stubs

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The result of the debate was create.
107 of these, would help with the somewhat-oversized telecoms stubs. Alai 18:32, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Scoping Objection: the North American Numbering Plan covers not just the US, but also Canada, Bermuda, and most Anglophone Caribbean countries. Would {{NANP-stub}}/Category:North American Numbering Plan stubs work? --CComMack (t&#149;c) 19:48, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
I'm proposing this on the basis of Category:Area codes in the United States. I don't see a NA permcat, but if one were to be created on that basis I'd be fine with that, or indeed with a still-wider scope such as Category:Area codes, or Category:Telephone numbering plans. (The actual contents would be much the same in any of these cases, really.) Alai 20:52, 3 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
(/me looks at the permcats). Oh, bleh. I see why it's that way, but it's just unfortunate. That said, it seems like Category:Area code stubs is probably the best split that follows the permcats. --CComMack (t&#149;c) 09:28, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]
Fine by me. Alai 14:16, 4 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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{{Russia-composer-stub}}

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed creation of the stub template and/or category above. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the template's or category's talk page (if any). No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was create template, upmerge cat.
I've found a lot of them.

Foxjwill 22:22, 1 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]

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