Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Episode coverage task force
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Episode Nav/Info Box
I've created a template for the infobox, based off of the one here. - UtherSRG 01:27, 23 Jul 2004 (UTC)
Infobox
I placed a copy of the infobox at Wikipedia:Infobox, so make certain any changes to it are reflected there as well. Tuf-Kat 04:34, Sep 30, 2004 (UTC)
Related Project
I am the creator of WikiProject Buffy and would like to use this guide to organize Buffy/Angel episodes. I am adding a link to my project. Are there plans to turn this entire page format into a template? Thanks! Che Nuevara 9:13P 24 April 05
Inactivity
Even though this Project has been Inactive for a long time, I say it should not be killed of just yet. I say this in light of recent renewed activity in Portal:Television, WikiProject_Television and several other Television pages. It seems that with the increasing popularity of certain Key TV series, people are finally starting to come together on formatting issues etc. It will just take a while longer before this trickles down to the Individual Episode level. The DJ 04:02, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Templates
I found the more general {{Episode navigation}} bottom article navigator. Do we advertise it's use here? The same kinda goes for {{TVep}}.
Help needed in Justice League Unlimited
If somebody is interested in Justice League Unlimited, please go to the List of Justice League episodes to help fix that page, some users refuse to create article per episodes, even though they know the existence of this project and well developed pages like those.--T-man, the wise 02:20, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
Naming episodes
Ok, can we add some guidelines for naming TV eps this is basically my criteria But if that's going to be valid (or not) it should be explain tn this page (the article, not in the talk page).
My vote is for Not using parenthesis clarification, if there is nothing else called that way (as everything else works on wikipedia if there is no disambiguation). That's also informative, as readers can infer whether the title of the episode comes from something else or it is a cultural reference..--T-man, the wise 08:23, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
- I note that almost all "major" TV shows follow the title of the episode with the name of the show in parenthesis. See List of Prison Break episodes and List of Star Trek: Voyager episodes as two good examples. It is only in the Dr. Who episodes that there seems to be a lack of consensus. Despite the issue of disambiguation, the unique factor to consider is that all TV episodes should be treated alike, as some titles are more anbiguous than others and the use of the parenthesis will leave no doubt. -- Dyslexic agnostic 08:29, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
Ok, but there IS a consensus in Dr. Who, and it's against patenthesis.--T-man, the wise 08:39, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
I just got green light from Nehrams2020 to write the naming guideline. I came up with this:
Naming
If there is no disambiguation, the name of the article should be the episode title written with the corresponding capital letters.
Examples (from Lost):
When disambiguation is needed, the name will also include a parenthesis clarification with the title of the series.
Examples:
This helps to identify cultural references in episode titles.
...how ever I'm not a native English speaker, if I missed something, go ahead, and modify it (get crazy, haha :P).--T-man, the wise 22:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
WP:TV-NC says: "Where an article is created about a single episode, add the series name in parentheses if there are other articles by the same name, e.g. Bart the Genius, but The Sting (Futurama). For Star Trek episodes, always add the series name." - If you wanna clarify that, fine by me. Both in TV-NC and in the Wikiproject TV-eps. - TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 00:57, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
Batman: The Animated Series
The single-episode articles for these are severely lacking. Could the members here please lavish some care onto them? Ta. --Jamdav86 20:49, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
Significance in arc
Can someone tell me what "Significance in arc" means? Specifically the "arc" part?? This is a phrase I've never heard. Seems like on the EUReKA episode pages it is being used to call out significant events that are part of the story line, but the "arc" part is throwing me. Should a more obvious term be used?--P Todd 21:06, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
Arc is parlance used to discuss the stories that arch over multiple episodes. In Eureka, the mention of arc presupposes that there will be come conspiracy theory. The X-files is one of the first shows to use the term "arc" in discussing the stories, but it is now in fairly common usage.Transcendentalstate 23:18, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
- For simplicity: Story arc. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 23:22, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
- I now see the arc light and understand. Thank you both.--P Todd 04:49, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
Need an Opinion
TrackerTV has created a barnstar proposal relating to Broadcasting. I would really appreciate it if interested people could give an opinion here.--Ed 20:38, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
- Comment:This barnstar may be used in assoiation with your Wikiproject.Ed 21:24, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
List of Justice League episodes
People are taking consensus against the conventions in this page. Votes are needed to keep the work up in that page. These people (I think most of them don't even get any work done on the article, just criticize) don't want neither expand the synopsis on the episode list nor create articles per episode and it happens in most cases. --T-man, the wise 06:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Infobox shouting match
There is currently a five part shouting match going on over at Template talk:Infobox Television episode#Background Colour Tag over whether or not there should be an option to adjust the infobox color scheme. if your interested please weigh in. Argash | talk | contribs 20:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
Trivia sections
I noticed the project is listing trivia as one of the standards for the articles. I think this is a bad idea, as trivia sections are generally frowned upon in Wikipedia. Any article that goes through peer review these days is asked to remove the trivia sections by integrating relevant points into the prose and deleing irrelevant points. Jay32183 14:42, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
merge / become taskforce / work group of WikiProject TV?
I just posted this on WT:LOE and thought I would mention it here as well:
- Since there's not a lot of episode list-specific activity, I was wondering maybe we should "merge" ourselves back with our parent project, WikiProject Television. Pretty much the main reason for LOE was to come up with a style-guideline for lists of episodes. We could merge some of our pages to WP:TV and then set up a dedicated sub-page with it's own talk page. I think we should do the same with WikiProject Television episodes. There's a lot of ideas and such that I've wanted to bring up, but it can be hard because they cross into a few different areas, including lists of episodes. Better integration with our parent project would still allow us to do all the things we've been doing independently, but allow for easier collaboration and make things easier to find. Thoughts?
Project Directory
Hello. The WikiProject Council is currently in the process of developing a master directory of the existing WikiProjects to replace and update the existing Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory. These WikiProjects are of vital importance in helping wikipedia achieve its goal of becoming truly encyclopedic. Please review the following pages:
- User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory,
- User:Badbilltucker/Culture Directory 2,
- User:Badbilltucker/Philosophy and religion Directory,
- User:Badbilltucker/Sports Directory,
- User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory,
- User:Badbilltucker/Geographical Directory/United States, (note: This page will be retitled to more accurately reflect its contents)
- User:Badbilltucker/History and society directory, and
- User:Badbilltucker/Science directory
and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope to have the existing directory replaced by the updated and corrected version of the directory above by November 1. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you. B2T2 22:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
- Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 13:47, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
Requesting comments for Lost episodes
Requesting comments for Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lost/Episode guidelines#Name suffix - a debate over the use of disambiguation titles for episode articles of a TV show when no disambiguation is needed. -- Ned Scott 20:35, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
- The current naming convention listed is "Where an article is created about a single episode, add the series name in parentheses if there are other articles by the same name, e.g. Bart the Genius, but The Sting (Futurama)." Is that what you're looking for? Jay32183 20:50, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
- It came from here by the way:Wikipedia:Naming conventions (television)#Episode articles Jay32183 20:52, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
Update: the discussion has now evolved: Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (television)#RfC Episode Article Naming conventions - a debate over the use of disambiguation titles for episode articles of a TV show when no disambiguation is needed. Also, when disambig titles are used for episode articles should they be (ShowName) or (ShowName episode). All are invited to join the discussion and give their input. -- Ned Scott 02:23, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Episode naming and dates.
I can think of only one series this applies to, and that is Battlestar Galactica, however, there may be more. Can anyone point me in the direction of a convention for naming episodes when two or more series have the same title, but were made at different times? Currently, for example, we have Take the Celestra (Battlestar Galactica) and Act of Contrition (Battlestar Galactica), both using the usual naming convention, except that the former is from the original 1978 series and the latter from the 2004 remake. Only The Hand of God (Battlestar Galactica) is disambiguated any further because that episode title occurs in both versions. My own personal suggestion, as a starting point for discussion, is for the above examples to become, respectively, Take the Celestra (Battlestar Galactica 1978) and Act of Contrition (Battlestar Galactica 2004). Note that I am not a big fan of making double parenthethis in article names, which is why I did not put them around the years, but if this is an issue, perhaps a hyphen instead? --BlueSquadronRaven 22:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
- It's being discussed at Wikipedia_talk:Naming_conventions_(television)#RfC_Episode_Article_Naming_conventions right now. - Peregrinefisher 22:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
Multi-part episodes
I thought I'd check in here, as I've just had to start a deletion review over an episode article that was deleted on the grounds that, according to guidelines, episodes with more than one part should be included entirely within the same article. Can anyone cite or otherwise verify this for me, or is it a load of hooey? --BlueSquadronRaven 22:03, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
- I remember reading it once somewhere. But multi-part episode refers specifically to episodes that have a common plot across multiple time divisions. Distinct plots that pick up where the previous one left off get distinct articles, even if titled part one and part two. Also, this is not grounds for deletion, it would be grounds for a merger. Jay32183 22:24, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
Game shows/news show/wrestling shows
Since I am not a member of this WikiProject, what is the conensus on episode articles. Should shows like game shows or wrestling shows have episode guides or yearly/season guides (i.e. "Deal or No Deal season 2" or "WWE RAW 2003")? What is the consenus for these? TJ Spyke 04:49, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- You should probably start with a page that lists a bunch of episodes, by season ideally, and then worry about episode articles later. - Peregrinefisher 05:32, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
- Thses are cases where you won't have the details to make individual pages, and a list won't be meaningful. With game shows or news shows you'd just have a list of airdates, no titles and no summaries. Generally I'd say don't make episode articles for these types of shows. Jay32183 05:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)