Template talk:Prophets in the Hebrew Bible
May 2007
since some of these are prophets only in Judaism see Table of Prophets of Abrahamic Religions I am making a seperate template for the prophets of judaism — Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:14:10, 17 May 2007|14:10, 17 May 2007]] ([[User talk:14:10, 17 May 2007#top|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/14:10, 17 May 2007|contribs]])
Worksheet for reviewing names of Prophets from the Protestant point of view
Prophet Defined
An authoritative and infallible teacher of God's will.
As names of Books of the Bible
- see also: Books of the Bible
Major Prophets
Minor Prophets
Other Prophets in the Bible
- Ahijah
- Azariah
- Elijah
- Elisha
- Gad
- Huldah
- Iddo
- Micaiah
- Moses
- Nathan
- Samuel
- Shemaiah
- Uriah - a prophet who is murdered by Jehoiakim
The Patriachs
Judges
Priests
Kings
note: the Kings are generally not considered prophets though many of their utterances were prophetic.
Duplicate?
Questionable (need to do more research)
Important persons in the Bible but questionable regarding status as prophet
These may be known to have spoken a prophetic utterance, but that in itself may not be enought to carry the title of prophet
Names belonging to the Judaism list
I would agree with the segregation of the current list as seen above, but would recommend adding to that list some of the names listed above, but would like to do a bit more research before recommending making any changes. Dbiel (Talk) 02:40, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Discussion
Note: the above links still need to be checked and revised. The above worksheet is still underconstruction and was input by Dbiel (Talk) 12:51, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- This is a template, and its purpose is mainly for navigation within this encyclopedia, rather than to define or explain anything. I commend you for your interest, but I do not think we are going to be able to make a constructive template that uses all this information. Would you also add Abel and Zechariah Ben Jehoiada (see Luke 11:50–51)? As Christians do not recognise a fixed list of "Prophets", other than the writers of books of the Bible, I suggest that this template should simply use the Jewish list, adding only Daniel for Christian purposes. Perhaps it could usefully have three sections: those clearly recognised by both religions i.e. the above lists of major, minor & other prophets, then "Judaism:" before the rest, ending with "Christianity: Daniel". Fayenatic london (talk) 13:23, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
- This list is being built solely at the request of Epson291 for the purpose of identifing difference between the Protestant and Jewish POV (his request can be found on my talk page under the heading Prophets). As far as major, minor goes, this only refers to the books of the Bible themselves, not to the prophets; and is only being used for the purpose of building this list. In terms of the template, they probably should be combinded with the list of "other prophets" as a single group of prophets. The heading used are not meant to become part of the template but rather a simple sorting guide for viewing difference that can then be used to determine what, if any, changes should be made to the template itself.
- I probably should have worked this worksheet in my sandbox and then copied it over only after it was finished, but in this case I chose to start it here instead, allowing others to work on it as well, if they so chose. Dbiel (Talk) 03:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
- I agree re major/etc. By 3 sections I meant: Both, Judaism, Christianity. I think this is what you are working on too; I was just suggesting the sections of the list above which I thought most Christians would describe as prophets.
- Why would the Judges "also fall into the category of prophets"? Fayenatic london (talk) 08:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
- This leads to the greater question of what is the difference between a King, Prophet, Priest and Judge (the rule of Israel prior to the first King). Debroah was clearly one of the Jewish Judges but was also known as a prophetess. David and Solomon are far better know as being Kings of Israel rather than as prophets. I am simply raising the question as I have no objection to their inclusion in the list. Dbiel (Talk) 01:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Jewish section
The talmud doesn't list noah and adam as prophets but later jewish texts list them as prophets --Java7837 20:15, 13 June 2007 (UTC)