Talk:Training modules/Design ideas

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Latest comment: 8 years ago by Ckoerner in topic Video content

Location of modules

I strongly believe, that acceptance of the tools will be much higher, if they are hosted on a wikimedia project directly. If this is not possible, transparency of the why and transarency how the data users enter is dealt with, are extremly important issues. --Kritzolina (talk) 19:48, 8 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

@Kritzolina: Thank you for your comments, we truly appreciate getting feedback on these issues! Might I ask you to clarify a little about your thoughts on ___location of the modules: do you think that semi-off-wiki venues like Tool Labs or Wikiedu.org (affiliated with the movement, but not actual projects) are viable possibilities for hosting? And if so, do you feel that those type of venues would raise the same kind of data transparency issues as an entirely-off-wiki venue, if we were to use them? Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 15:34, 14 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

Accessibility

I do think all four accessibility concerns are important. --Kritzolina (talk) 19:48, 8 November 2016 (UTC)Reply

General

Great to see your progress. Most work we are doing right now in WikiSoCal on this and related issues is taking place in off wiki conversations with experts outside of the Wikipedia editor base. We would be happy to include anyone from here and within the wiki communities in the conversations we are having. Our group has been forming on www.meetup.com/wikisocal - please join us there and our ping me directly for more info.

(Limited to editing from my iPhone atm - would welcome having these comments correctly formatted and moved below) DrMel (talk) 18:06, 4 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Thanks DrMel! I will pass the meetup info on to local team members, and I really appreciate you taking the time to look over our work here :) Kbrown (WMF) (talk) 14:31, 5 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

Video content

I would strongly discourage providing content for these training modules in a video format. I say this as someone who has worked in multimedia production, and a fan of YouTube and video tutorials. :)

  1. Video takes a large amount of time to produce in a professional (or even semi-professional) quality.
  2. It's far easier to translate text on-wiki than translate a video - both in the tools we have at hand and the time it would take volunteers.
  3. Videos - especially those showing any user interfaces or content - will be nearly instantly out of date once published. As time progresses the videos drift further out of sync with reality.
  4. Text can be searched, video can not.

These are my personal feelings and I realize they are not true for everyone's preferred learning methods. Perhaps some content could be produced (Background information for example) but my biggest concern is that the cost and time it takes to produce videos could be better spent producing more/higher quality textual content.

See also: https://twitter.com/markkriegsman/status/739664279083814912 :)

Ckoerner (talk) 15:08, 5 January 2017 (UTC)Reply

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