The claim is made that: "Oracle is the world's first RDBMS." Surely, this is not the case. I am unsure which is the first but, amongst others, IBM System R and Logica Rapport were around before Oracle, I believe. Can someone clarify please? Geoff97 18:09, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- Multics too claims to be the first RDBMS. We need a consensus.
- "...(RSI) was founded in 1979 and released Oracle V.2 as the world's first relational database.". [1]
- "Multics Relational Data Store (MRDS)... is believed to be the first relational database management system ...". [2]
- Jay 07:29, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)
RSI was started in 1979. There are references to other RDBMSs before that date, which seems to eliminate Oracle as the first. The question is which was the first? See #10 here for a reference to RAPPORT-3 from Logica: [3] Geoff97 10:33, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- RDBMS is a loosely coined term according to Relational database management system and there is no database that fully follows the rules of the relational model. Hence we can remove the "Oracle is the world's first RDBMS" statement from the page or make a modification to make it NPOV. Jay 16:42, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)
If you take the strict definition, then there are no RDBMSs, so Oracle wasn't the first. If you take a less strict view and ask what was the first near-RDBMS, that wasn't Oracle either, but we're not sure what was. So, in the statement "and introduced their product Oracle V2 as the first commercial relational database system" I propose to change "the first" to "an early" to make this NPOV. In the bulleted list of firsts towards the end I propose to remove the first RDBMS claim completely. Geoff97 17:49, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)
- The discussion can be continued at Talk:Database management system. I've copied the contents to there. Jay 21:34, 2 Jan 2004 (UTC)