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Revert battle still going on in truth
A revert battle is still going on in truth. The obscurantists insist on having things their own way, ignoring the npov policy that all points of view should be given equal billing. Administrative assistance is needed. -- DotSix 67.182.157.6 19:59, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
Possible solution to dispute over unbiased wording of lead section found: Just leave the lead section blank, let the article speak for itself? (Unless there is something in Wikipedia policy that requires saying something profound in the lead section of each article? Is there such a requirement, or can the lead section be left with nothing in it but the index?) -- DotSix 67.182.157.6 14:18, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Questionable image additions
I'm not sure if this counts as vandalism, but if it does, you can move this message to the VIP page. If you look at the contributions of Inhighspeed, the user seems to be adding pictures to biographical articles some of which already have pictures on them. Most of them seem to be of celebrities without shirts on, when you could easily find better pictures of these people with shirts. It's one thing if it the pictures we in context of the article – some of the pictures were of people who played Tarzan, but clearly you can find and use more relevant pictures of David Arquette and Erik Estrada. Adding three pictures of [Tobey Maguire] without a shirt really doesn't add much to an article. I've marked a few of the user's orphaned uploaded images for deletion. Can anyone assist with the proper course of action to take? --Jtalledo (talk) 18:16, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- I agree. While shirtless photos of celebrities like wrestlers, athletes, models,etc. is appropriate, its questionable for others, especially if they're not known for their physique. If it's someone like Usher or LL Cool J who regularly appear shirtless in their music videos its fine; otherwise its just's not very professional for Wikipedia. --Madchester 06:57, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Jtalledo, the proper course of action would first be to chill out. You seem to be on a witchhunt here. Okay, I'll admit I've added some pics of my favorite celebs shirtless, but I don't think it counts as vandalism. If any of the pics were inappropriate, then I apologize -- however, just because a pic "doesn't add much to an article," doesn't connote ill intention, and certainly not vandalism. I think you should just calm down and get a hold of yourself. I've done work on other articles that do not include just adding shirtless pics. And I haven't removed other pics from the same articles, as you have alleged in other places on the site. You might in the future contact someone through their Talk page if you wish to discuss something with them, instead of putting libelous talk about them around the site. I'm sure some might consider you an asset to Wikipedia, but you may wish to come down off your high horse, and brush up on your etiquette before going any further.Inhighspeed 00:10, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
- Furthermore, according to Wikipedia etiquette, you are supposed to notify someone on their Talk page if you put up an image of theirs for deletion, which you did not do. By the way, you sure seem to spend a lot of your time criticizing and editing what others do. I guess it's easier to find fault with others than with ourselves.Inhighspeed 01:34, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Use of the User monobook.js page?
I tried the following as suggested: User:Spalding/monobook.js. I refreshed the cache, but nothing happens in either Firefox or IE, and javascript is enabled in both. Does anyone know what I'm doing wrong? Thanks, Spalding 22:03, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
- First of all, try visiting a page you've never ever seen (Special:Random) to see if the new code will appear on it.
- Failing that, see if your CSS is faulty. Try changing the entirety of it to something simple like
a:visited { color: #7755dd; }
- And see if that changes things. In the case of this example, you should be able to see purple-pink visited links instead of the dark blue color. If not, um, hm. But try that :) GarrettTalk 23:47, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
- What I am trying to do is use javascript in monobook.js to force an edit summary - nothing with CSS. But I am seeing nothing at all as a result of having code in the monobook.js
- Oh! JS, right! :) Um, maybe you're using code MediaWiki doesn't like or something? I really don't know... you'd think someone would have replied by now... hmmm... GarrettTalk 01:06, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
- Try an alert() at the top of addForceSummary. Last time I tried playing with monobook.js, I couldn't get document.addEventListener to work; the function added as a listener was never called. If you manage to make it work, please tell me how you did it. --cesarb 01:22, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
- Well, I did at least get Hello world to work as a very nice sanity test with the following snippet from that article (without the quotes, which I hope will prevent execution in this page): "javascript:alert('Hello, world!'); "
- (BTW, how do you get those nice boxes with the dotted line outlines?) I don't see any markup for it in edit view. Oh my, the answers are breeding more questions as usual for me! Thanks, I'm at least started now. Another question: wouldn't a link to Hello world be a good addition to almost any article on a programming language? It sure helped me here. Spalding 21:22, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Try an alert() at the top of addForceSummary. Last time I tried playing with monobook.js, I couldn't get document.addEventListener to work; the function added as a listener was never called. If you manage to make it work, please tell me how you did it. --cesarb 01:22, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
I did finally get the original javascript to work part of the time (it is very sensitive to purging the browser cache), but it doesn't seem to work if you preview first, which of course is commonly done for most edits. I'll keep playing and experimenting with it. Spalding 11:50, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
Category name changes
This may not be the right place to post this, but there are problems with some category and article name changes that are going through at the moment. Someone has recently changed the lead article Cinema to Film. The naming issue had been discussed on the talk page, but there was never any consensus for a change. However, someone made the change themselves, and has now argued that Film is now the default term and has listed all categories that use the word Cinema in the title for renaming. This has been presented as a simple change based on the lead article being called Film and so people are generally voting for the changes. However, Cinema articles are being forced into a change to Film when it is not appropriate. An attempt to change Category:Cinema by country to Category:Film by country was resisted, but other categories are being changed en masse on the grounds that Film is the default term, when this has never been agreed. I'm not sure how to deal with this, I could always change the lead article back to Cinema but there must be some mechanism for resolving an issue like this. JW 08:40, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
- Why the heck isn't CAMERA film at Film?!? I mean, cinema may be a term on the decline but at least it wasn't ambiguous as to what the page would be about. "Film" could mean any of a dozen things. Hm. Well I think it was a good idea to bring it here as there's bound to be a solution--maybe even call a Wikipedia-wide vote or something? GarrettTalk 09:48, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
I am not sure about the articles, I proposed the Category:Cinema by country → Category:Film by country, only as a category standardization. I think there was another one after this, but would have to go check. You may want to take a look at WP:ANI, I think this might be the same user on Talk:Film. Actually, I just went through the history of cinema, and it was merged with film by Grunt on 18:36, 17 August 2004. Still need to discuss the further changes and happenings on all of this, concerning the direction of the articles and categories, if that users persists (User:12.73.198.28). <>Who?¿? 10:07, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Can't figure out how to add info to article
Thought I was fairly intelligent until I tried to understand the "how to's" in Wikipedia.
My original reason for trying to get to a 'post message' page was about the featured article on the Civil Air Patrol. The content here makes it sound like big Boy Scouts. In Yolo County, and other counties, in California the CAP is very active in supporting both sheriff and federal CAMP to constantly patrol areas looking for cannibus, mapping it and calling in the cops and federal agents. This is an on-going active participation in drug enforcement by CAP that has even been written up in the Davis Enterprise some years back.
There is no mention of their DEA-related activities in the article.
My guess is that this self-selecting group (pilots who choose to be in CAP and are accepted into) probably are the more Neo-con conservative types who wish they could actively (but safely) participate in law enforcement and this fulfills all their fantasies. It wouldn't suprise me if the DEA has some way of directing money toward their gasoline and other flying expenses, but then again, these guys have enough money to own planes and fly so maybe the DEA doesn't have to share.
I would like to clarify that I do not use cannibus and never have, although I am a strong supporter of medical cannibus. Also, the huge growing operations in the public forests are usually done by violent criminals and I don't mind them being busted. I do have great objection to CAP patrolling over private property. The article only mentions "search and rescue"--their extensive law enforcement involvement needs to be added.
Crusader Rabbit
Wow! Talk about feeling really stupid...Now I can't seem to find the 'send' button. I can find how to save it (although why and where are mysteries to me) and how to preview it (maybe that will lead to a send button--Nope, no send button there either). The 'show changes' is also a mystery. I'll try them and hope my e-mail isn't erased.
Is there a SIMPLE way to direct people with additional info or correction of an article on how it can get added--either directly or to the oversight group. I did try using the "edit" button but it only produced long lists of things that seemed irrelevant to what I wanted to do.
The "Show changes" button is such a great tease. Wish I could understand how to make the changes it says it will show. Save page indicates it will save my changes. Well, this is getting very confusing. The headline for this page says "Village Pump (assistance) (comment)", not that it directly edits or alters any page or article.
Templates: I tried to see what they did but just got more mysteries.
PLEASE!!!! Can't there be just a SIMPLE send button to get messages to you people?
Do I have to have an account and be logged in in order to communicate with you? I'll try that. Just did that but doesn't seem to provide any remedy.
- It is the save button. You just save to the page you are editing. (Previewing to make sure it looks good is appreciated). If you can edit then you can make changes. (A few pages are protected from editing and the edit button won't be present). Discussion, comments, questions about changes, etc. should go to the talk page, reached by the discussion button. RJFJR 15:49, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
- A few other things I came back to add: You can sign your name by using ~~~~ (it will be replaced, except in this case because I explicitly told it not to). The signature will also be a link to your page so we can leave a message and you'll get a 'new message' message. Please remember to use the edit summary when you post messages. RJFJR 15:59, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
- Maybe you should stop by Wikipedia:Tutorial? - Mgm|(talk) 10:14, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
Revert war @ Wolverine (comics)
It's between new users User:ScifiterX and User:Nightscream concerning the level of detail there should be on speculation (or perhaps fanon) of Wolverine's abilities. ScifiterX wants none whatsoever (trying to adhere to canon?) whereas Nightscream wants some information on the "debate", and/or inconsistency of the issue given there is currently little said on the matter. I have no expertise on Comics; so I have no idea what is appropriate, but since Nightscream requested assistance from me in dispute resolution I'm posting here. (This dispute is also on User talk:Nightscream#Editing Wolverine) - RoyBoy 800 21:10, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
Moved rest of debate to Talk:Wolverine (comics) Steve block 12:22, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
New Era (hat company)
Where would this go for a request? --Wimtennis2005 17:30, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
- Are you looking for someone to create the New Era (hat company) article? You can click on the link in my reply and start writing it yourself. Just add {{corp-stub}} at the bottom if it is a stub. General guidance is on Wikipedia:Requested articles. Happy editing. Vegaswikian 18:06, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
- Under Requested Articles where should i put it? --Wimtennis2005 18:30, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
- I added it for you in a new heading of equipment under baseball which seems to be a reasonable place. Also note the :: characters I added to your response to keep it under the text you were following up on. This is a general practice here. Vegaswikian 18:43, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
- Under Requested Articles where should i put it? --Wimtennis2005 18:30, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
Giant bugs that live in the water?
Please tell me some --Wikinative 19:14, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
anyone heard of a band called Tripod?
Fegh Maha, Middleborough Rd, the list goes on... they all link to this band.
A search for "bands+Tripod" lists Tripod's web hosting on the first page so I'm not convinced this is a very noteworthy band, but I thought I'd ask about it here before I put them up for a speedy. GarrettTalk 08:57, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
- I have redirected the album pages (just lists of songs) to the band's article A curate's egg 13:22, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
- OH! I forgot to check here! Thank you. GarrettTalk 02:46, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
The obscurantists insist on having things their own way, ignoring the npov guideline.
I'm just sifting the WikiProjects for active and inactive, and discovered this one, which states This is a project page and therefore does not fall under the wikipedia guidelines. We reserve the right to censor/ban any remark/user that is not in favor of Intelligent Design or constructive to our organization. (Their bold.) It struck me as odd, provocative and untrue.
Thoughts? Steve block 13:27, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
- It's odd, provocative and untrue.
First of all, and obviously, that page does fall under Wikipedia guidelines, just not the article guidelines. There's no such thing as ownership for any page in Wikipedia. Even your user pages only have "de facto" ownership because there's community pressure not to edit what the user doesn't want edited, but if the community as a whole decides a page should go or be rewritten, it still is.
So no owners, either individual or collective. In particular, a WikiProject page is not owned by its participants. Furthermore, nobody can "reserve the right" to "ban" (I guess they mean "block") anyone for anything not described under the blocking policy. So effectively this is claiming that "disrupting" the WikiProject in the eyes of its "owners" amounts to disrupting Wikipedia as a whole. That just doesn't fly.
Maybe we need "what WikiProjects are not", in particular: a WikiProject is organized, but not an organization. JRM · Talk 15:00, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
- That someone would put that on a Wikiproject about such a contentious topic does not raise hope in their ability to work with others...sigh. -- Cyrius|✎ 16:03, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
- Since its main purpose appears to be simply to have a list o' links which people can check for easy reference, can it not be userfied to a subpage of User:Dbergan? The page itself does not actually appear to be that provocative, except for the disclaimer (which was removed) and the statement that the page is only for people who are in favor of ID.
- By the by, there is precedence for deleting non-neutral or exclusionist wikiprojects: see Wikipedia:Wikiproject/Inappropriate projects, and note for instance Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/GRider/Schoolwatch. — Asbestos | Talk 23:00, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
Bot Please
I posted a request at Wikipedia: Bot Requests. I posted it here so that it would gain visibility. Thanks. — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 04:03, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
Template help, please
I'm trying to construct a template {{bioxref}} that I would like to have an optional second parameter. I can't seem to make it work. From reading the Help, I suspect it may not be possible, but from reading other areas, I get the impression that it can be done with some more sophisticated techniques. Can anyone help?
Here's what I'm trying to do: create a hyperlink to a previously-defined target {{{1}}}. If the target is on the same page, then
- [[#{{{1}}}|<specialformatting>{{{1}}}</specialformatting>]]
is all that is needed. But if the target is on another page (which is the exception, thus the desire for this to be an optional parameter), then
- [[{{{2}}}#{{{1}}}|<specialformatting>{{{1}}}</specialformatting>]]
is what is needed. But if {{{2}}} is omitted (99% of the cases) then we get the template code fragment there instead. I know I can use an extra pipe symbol to hold the place as null on the input, but since the need for another page is the exception, not the rule, I'd like to avoid that in the interests of simplification and ease of use.
I've tried using {{{article}}} instead of {{{2}}}, willing to pay the price of putting article=Imperial Crypt Vaults for the few times it will be used, but the template just substitutes the word "article" when there is no parameter value of that name given.
Is there a way to do what I'd like to do?--StanZegel 20:19, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
- Yes. Check out Template:Infobox CVG, it uses several optional components.
- I'm not sure with this bookmarking system why you couldn't use {{ref}} and {{note}} though... and to rename a link in that just put a space, for example {{ref|Wikipedia is so cool}} generates [is so cool]. GarrettTalk 03:52, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Greasemonkey
Would anyone mind making a grasemonkey script that lets you add tabs to the top in monobook and specify something for each tab to add into an edit box? — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 02:55, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
- Far simpler would be to tack a line onto the end of the insertion section below. Of course a lot of options would mean a long insertion box, but it'd be easier to do than tabs. Unfortunately my skills only go as far as editing existing addon line code rather than writing it myself.
- What I'd suggest you do is find something extremely similar and modify it. That's what I did for LibraryLookup (to search my own library instead of the prepackaged one). GarrettTalk 03:31, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
Commenting on numbered lists
Is there a way to make a comment in a numbered list, and keep the numbering consistent?
Example 1:
- fred
- bob
- comment to bob
- sara
- sally
Wiki markup
# fred
# bob
*# comment to bob
# sara
# sally
Example 2:
- fred
- bob
- comment to bob
- sara
- sally
Wiki markup
# fred
# bob
; comment to bob
# sara
# sally
Example 3:
- fred
- bob
- comment to bob
- sara
- sally
Wiki markup
# fred
# bob
:comment to bob
# sara
# sally
The numbering starts over after any type of break. I have tried several different ways, and there is nothing listed on wiki markup. Any suggestions? ∞Who?¿? 09:53, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
- You just need to reverse Example 1: #* instead of *#
- fred
- bob
- comment to bob
- sara
- sally
- -- Michael Warren | Talk 10:18, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
D'oh! Thanks for the reply, I could have swore I tried that :) ∞Who?¿? 20:21, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
what is this "www.wikipedia.org"? It's not you guys I think
I never used wikipedia before but I'd heard of it so I googled wikipedia. The top rank was wikipidia.org which I assumed was the correct thing. What I got looked a lot like a search page but all I received were what were obviously paid commercial links. It was nothing but a low grade ad server masquerading as a dictionary. I tried googling "wiki" an finally managed to find the real site, but what was that thing!? Shouldn't someone be getting sued here? I've never seen a more blatant example of parasitic sleaze.
Did you spell your original search correctly? When I Google "Wikipedia, I get our site, but if I enter Wikipidia, I get the site I believe you're referring to. Joyous (talk) 15:41, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
Implementing own alphabetical index ???
Does anyone know how to implement an alphabetical index for one's own mediawiki like the one here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Quick_index
- Copying the source code across should work. All this does is call the special page listing every page existing, so it should be transferable. Hope this helps, smoddy 18:14, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
- It doesn't seem to be that easy. I tried copying the code but whichever two letter prefix I click on, it always display a list of ALL of my pages. Ideas?
- How many pages do you have? If its very few, then it won't display them from a particular point. Is there a link I could have a look at? smoddy 19:34, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
- "If its very few, then it won't display them from a particular point" <-- What do you mean? I do have very few pages (about 10-15), but others I know had trouble and they had hundreds of pages. Unfortunately I don't have a link for you since its on a private intranet. Actually I was slightly wrong about what I said before about displaying all the pages. It actually displays all the pages that start with any prefix AFTER the one you search for. For example, if I search for pages that begin with "Pr" it will display all the pages start with "Pr" PLUS all the pages that start with start with Q, etc. through the ones that start with Z. I guess that's how the behavior is supposed to be. Seems like it works that way on wikipedia.org as well.
Dealing with a bizarrely hostile editor
I'd like to request that someone experienced take a look at Italian Beef and especially Talk:Italian Beef and see if they can come up with a way to resolve the dispute there in a reasonable manner. (In brief, an anonymous editor using a variety of IP's refuses to allow any edits of which they don't personally approve, and generally responds to all communication with obscenities, insults, and rants against Wikipedia.) --Dcfleck 03:16, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
Library of Congress / Dewey / Colon Classification Code Usage
What is WikiPedia's policy regarding using Library of Congress Classification Codes, Dewey Codes or Colon Classification Codes? What is the policy re listing BT, NT, RT for Broader, Narrower and Related Terms as an alternative to "See also"?--merosonox 05:50, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
- You mean giving pages here an ID #? That has problems. The wiki is so open and mutating that categorising is hard enough as it is with the Category: system, let alone applying a dead-tree numeric system intended for fixed-content works.
- Or is this not what you're meaning? If not please elaborate. :) GarrettTalk 02:21, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
- Ever seen The Matrix? You know the scene where all the guns, rifles, grenades, bombs, etc fly out? The map may not be the territory but this digital empire still exists. Only when WikiPedia ceases to exist will its components be scattered across the desert of the real.
- "A database is only as blind as it's best searching algorithms." - Terence McKenna, on interpreting Marshall McLuhan
Computer generated Speech - Possible Vandalism
Hi All,
I've happened upon the computer generated speech page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_speech_recognition) on random, and it just contains a row of 'w's. I looked at the history to see if I could revert it back, but didn't see any prior sensible versions - they were all the same.
Can someone more experienced with wikipedia have a look at this?
Thanks.
217.39.44.38 11:50, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
- It was either vandalism or an editing experiment - but as these w's were the only thing in the editing history I simply deleted that page, so it's now ready for creating the article again. andy 11:56, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
what solution can be added to prevent the melted plastics to dried up or cooled off?
july 19,2205:what solution can be added to prevent the melted plastics to dried up or cooled off?
61.9.78.3 12:18, 19 July 2005 (UTC):what solution can be added to prevent the melted plastics to dried up or cooled off?
Deleted, re-created, then Vfd tag added
The article "Stephan Kinsella" was deleted some time ago. It has now been re-created, and someone has just added a Vfd tag without recreating a proper vote page, and without adding reasons for re-deletion. What should be done? Is there any policy for this? Thanks for your assistance. --Edcolins 15:18, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
- It's alright, I have now the answer on how to proceed to create a Vfd renomination. See Stephan Kinsella Vfd heading. --Edcolins 18:28, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
WikiProjects in need of assistance
I've sifted the WikiProjects, and here are the lonely ones that could do with a bit of love and attention. Please sign up as a participant if you see one you can contribute to!
- Architecture; Baseball; Cheeses; Christian liturgical year; Computer music; Dance
- Eurovision; Family and relationships; Fictional series; Finnish provinces; Fluid dynamics; Gastropods
- Geologic timescale; German districts; Hats and headgear; Herbs and spices; Historical states; History of Scandinavia
- History of Sweden; Holmes; Horse breeds; Irish literature; Japanese districts and municipalites; Jesus
- Knots; Latin alphabet; Leaders by year; Library of Congress Country Studies assimilation; Materials; Numismatics
- Oregon Wikigroup Project; Philately; Playground; Prussia; Prussian Kreise; Prussian provinces
- Prussian Regierungsbezirke; Prussian Standesamter; Radio and television; Royal Air Force squadrons; School Years; South Africa
- Swedish cities; Taiwanese counties; Television Schedules; Theme songs; Time; Transnistria
- Transportation in China; Treaties; U.S. politicians; U.S. special districts; UK subdivisions (Northern Ireland)
- UK subdivisions (Scotland); Wikipedia:WikiProject UK subdivisions (Wales); United Nations; Vikings
- Viruses; Wars; Wikification; Wikipedia Namespace; Writing Captions; Years; Years in science
Thank you for your time Steve block talk 23:02, July 19, 2005 (UTC)
Hello together, may anyone (perhaps a sysop because of the right to close pages) please have a look on these two pages and cool down the editwar. I don't understand, what's going wrong there. Thanks a lot - --Rax 01:17, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
British vs American spelling
Can someone help me find the part of the Wikipedia How-To Guide that mentions British vs American spelling? ♥purplefeltangel 02:12, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
Flying VfDs under the radar
A series of VfDs have been proposed for Moral compass, Elliott Valenstein, and Thought police, in an apparent attemptt at marginalization. The moral compass article has been updated to address criticisms brought up on its VfD page; instead of addressing shortcomings on the discussion page, it was blindsided with a VfD. While these articles certainly could use attention and cleanup, the significance of each is greater than many trivial articles and stubs. Wikipedians may now be in danger of wandering adrift, as the vote stands now, if the Wikipedia loses its moral compass. Ombudsman 05:18, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
Korean naming convention: Sea of Japan/East Sea
Sorry for crossposting, but I am desparate to involve as many Wikipedians as possible. We've discussed the matter endlessly, and now have a vote to help us reach consensus: Korean naming convention what order should Sea of Japan and East Sea be used in the articles? Kokiri 08:41, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
NPOV is gone in this article!
Has really NO moderator yet seen the comment on GKIF put there three days ago by Peter Lee??? This comment is WAY out of the neutral point of view, it's not based on FACTS but is merely his personal opinion. I can take it away (again), but I was in several edit wars already with this fellow and I don't want to get me into another one. In my view, it's now the task of a moderator to do something about it. I have also commented on the text on the NPOV talk page, but still without any results. Maybe here at the village pump it might get some more attention? -- MarioR 13:08, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
Mud Fish
is there such a thing??
No. Please knock off the nonsense. - 67.52.188.182 17:16, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
I think there might be a mud fish and no nonsense.
- Do you mean the Mudskipper? Moriori 00:15, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Can't Log In
I haven't logged in (as AlexSwanson) for several months, so when I couldn't this afternoon I figured I had been removed for non-usage and recreated myself. A couple of hours later I still exist but my password doesn't work. Help! 18:20 20 July 2005 (UTC+1)
- We don't remove users for non-usage. User:AlexSwanson has existed for several months. I don't know what user you created this afternoon, but it wasn't that one. If you supplied an e-mail address when you first registered, then you can have your password sent to you. If you didn't, and if you can't remember your original password, then I think you may be out of luck, and will have to create yet another account. Bovlb 18:33:39, 2005-07-20 (UTC)
I can remember my original password, it just doesn't work. User:AlexSwanson is a new page I created yesterday. I will try having the password sent to me, to see what the system thinks it is. AS 07:55 21 July 2005 (UTC+1)
- To clarify, the user page for User:AlexSwanson was created the other day, but the user's contributions are back in January. BTW, mailing the password will create a new password which will also work until you change your password. Bovlb 13:21:06, 2005-07-21 (UTC)
Use of a Wikipedia article in print
Q: How do I make a bibliography entry for a Wikipedia article that I have quoted in print?
- A: See Wikipedia:Citing Wikipedia gkhan 17:39, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
Use of GFDL images
I originally posted this question on the Wikimedia Commons Village Pump [1] but didn't get a response, so I'm reposting it here:
I used a few images from Commons:Rio de Janeiro as backgrounds for logos on my (more-or-less-commercial) website. [2] [3] ) Both are licensed under the GFDL. I need to know what information I need to include in order for my use of the images to be correct, but some cursory research didn't help me out. (Unfortunately, the wikipedia article on the GFDL doesn't mention its restrictions for image licensing!) If it were text, I could very easily tack a GFDL notice onto it, but since these are navigational images for a larger web page it wouldn't work to slap a bunch of licensing text at the bottom. What's the very least I have to do to conform to the GFDL, and what method would you recommend to include the information in as small a footprint on my site as possible? (For example, could I reference the GFDL in the image's ALT tag on the page?) Thanks -- — Adam Conover † 19:11, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
![[2]](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Rio_de_Janeiro_from_Sugarloaf_mountain%2C_May_2004.jpg){kind=link}
![[3]](https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Yuri_Rio_de_Janeiro_20040119_054.jpg){kind=link}
- I think the minimum you coudl do is mention the GFDL in teh ALT tag and have a link back to Wikipedia. IANAL though so you ought to check, you might find people knowledgeable if you post at talk:GNU Free Documentation License, Wikipedia talk:Copyrights and/or Wikipedia talk:Mirrors and forks. Thryduulf 20:33, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
- Personally I would make sure a copyright notice is linked from every page, listing the images which are GFDL and the sources and authors. Rhobite 03:05, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
Userpage which is just advertisement
Should the page of User:InternetBali.com stay? The account was created to add spam links and the userpage contains text advertisement, nothing else. Are there some rules/precedents how to deal with such pages? Pavel Vozenilek 22:53, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
- WP is not a free web host, so, no, this breaks rules. This has been done before and I'm sure it was merely blanked/deleted. GarrettTalk 00:54, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
- I've speedily deleted the user page. It was so blatant an ad I didn't see any reason to waste people's time on it. -- Cyrius|✎ 04:12, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Building a new Wiki
I love Wikipedia and the way it works. So much so that I want to set up my own for a specialized purpose. To aid my new users, I'd like to copy large portions of Wikipedia, in particular the Help, Tutorial, and Template pages. These would be tailored to fit the application, but the existing pages would be a great head start for the new Wiki. Is it possible to copy those pages in bulk? Is it legal? How can it be done (relatively) easily? --129.198.241.67 23:30, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
- Somewhere or other there's an export function that I think lets you save pages as raw wiki code. Failing that, you'd have to edit and copy-n-paste each; that's quick, but only if the wiki you're moving to uses MediaWiki markup--for example Peanut Butter Wiki uses some different symbols to create formatting. As for legality, I assume you can just put a "content taken from" like the sites at Wikipedia:Mirrors and forks do. Hope that helps. :) GarrettTalk 01:05, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
I have a kind request. There is a problem on the Wikipedia Article For Sathya Sai Baba (SSB).
This article has links to both Pro and Anti SSB articles. However, my link is NOT being allowed. There was a section entitled "Rebuttals" that had only three links, including my site (SaiSathyaSai.com).
My site is the ONLY systematized site that specifically addresses (in my opinion) unsubstantiated and serious claims made on Anti-SSB sites. Since an entire section is devoted to Anti-SSB Sites, there should also be a Rebuttals section that provides information that happens to be 100% relevant to Sathya Sai Baba. Willmcw has gone to great extents to promote Anti-SSB sites and to remove sites that counter their claims. This is unfair and biased. It shouldn't be allowed. He removed the "Rebuttals" section without any open discussion. You can view the discussion here.
The current article for Sathya Sai Baba is, by no means, indicative of the majority opinion regarding SSB. The entire article is mottled with Anti-SSB remarks and links.
I believe that the Rebuttals section is relevant and the following three links should be reposted:
1) http://www.geocities.com/the_sai_critic/
2) http://www.saisathyasai.com/
3) http://www.saibaba-aclearview.com/
It is important to point out that NONE of the Pro-SSB links cited, provide any rebuttals to the Anti-SSB remarks and links. These three links are the ONLY ones that do.
Please tell me what I must do to have this situation resolved amicably and fairly.
Thank you.
Sincerely,
SSS108 15:58, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
- Your account has only one edit to that page. Why don't you try working with the other people before running for help? Secondly, fighting to add links to your own site is heavily frowned upon. Third, the external links section on that page is already a mile long. Wikipedia is not a web index, and articles are not supposed to carry exhaustive links on a subject. -- Cyrius|✎ 18:03, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
Cyrius, I edited the page several times without logging on. I am new to this site and I am not entirely familiar with it by any means. My link keeps being removed. Willmcw decided to remove the category and he and Andries (who happens to be the webmaster and contact for the largest Anti-SSB site on the internet) have the page under their control. THEY are choosing the content. My link would not be listed under "external links". It would be listed under "Rebuttals". I never posted any other link except my own. The only "fighting" that was done, was in relation to an attack page against me. I felt that if the attack link against me could be posted there (although it was irrelevant to the topic), I should also be allowed to post my response. Willmcw would not allow this, although he allowed the other link! Something is seriously wrong and it needs to be addressed. What are my other options?
Post
I want to post/contribute an article about "Exploring the Last Frontier" how can I do that ?
Can someone help me? An anonymous user edited the Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Thesis Statement to blank the page. I went to the history and pulled up the version prior to the blanking and tried to save that, but when the save took, the page was still blank. I did it again, did a Show Preview prior to the edit, and saw a good page, and saved again, but it is still blank. I did a Refresh and also a Control-F5, but I still see only a blank page. John Barleycorn 05:34, July 22, 2005 (UTC)