Re "show dog" link that currently doesn't link to anything--it will eventually; there are quite a few pages that link to it so it's useful to have links-in-waiting. Elf | Talk 04:50, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
GuloGuloGulo, can you please explain why you changed "... fondly known as Yorkie" to "... also known"? "Yorkie" is a "pet" term, a sort of slang that is used to fondly refer to these dogs. It is not a name that stands on an equal footing with the full "Yorkshire Terrier" (at least as used by people I know). Nyh
- I'm not the one who changed it, but I can tell you that "fondly" implies an emotional interpretation of why someone would call the dog that name, but since this is an an encyclopedia in which NPOV is important, it tries to report the facts (the dog *is* called a Yorkie, but what emotional state someone *might* be in when doing so is speculation). Elf | Talk 15:27, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Can someone please include some information in the Yorkshire Terrier article about the Trachea problem that can occur in this breed? I learned a year or so ago about this problem which can and does occur with this particular breed (and certain other breeds of small dogs) and many Yorkshire Terrier owners don't know about this issue. The Trachea can collapse in some of the dogs in this breed and when it does there's little or nothing that can be done about it, leaving the affected dog to be put to sleep. I've heard this problem may be genetic, but it can also be brought about by tugging at tight collars around the neck, as such collars shouldn't be used on these dogs but instead a halter to avoid pressure on the neck. I would include some information in the wikipedia article on Yorkshire Terrier about this myself, but at the moment I don't have the exact info about this in front of me so I'm hoping someone else will include the information. I've found this Trachea collapse medical problem mentioned in books on the breed and on various personal websites on-line. --Demonslave 15:45, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
- I'm afraid those are the same sources that most of us would have available for adding that info. Would have to go find the appropriate books or web sites and write up what appears to be fact or commonly accepted wisdom in our own words. Which means you're as qualified as most people to do it. Be bold! Elf | Talk 16:06, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
- Thanks, Elf, I'll try to get back to this page sometime in the near future and add this important bit of information. I appreciate your quick response to my comment. --Demonslave 16:47, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
"war hero" dog
Info just added is taken verbatim from [1]. Have sent email asking about copyright. I'm not sure how significant it is anyway--? Elf | Talk 04:52, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
New picture added
I added requested pic of adult Yorkshire Terrier.
--- Regis, 2005/9/11
"Gabby" yorkie photo removed
The latest yorkie photo is a much better example of the breed and is a clearer photo as well. The Gabby photo is no longer needed on this page. An anon user keeps putting it back, apparently feeling that this is his/her own private page. However, it's not, it's an encyclopedia. I hope that he/she will stop doing this. Elf | Talk 22:14, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
"Gabby" yorkie photo is a great photo
The latest yorkie photo is a NOT much better example of the breed and is NOT a clearer photo as well. In the interest of providing a the most quality content to users, I have now put BOTH photos on the page. I hope this resolves the matter.
- Can you please explain why you think gabby is a better photo? I don't see it and neither do the other editors of this page. The dog breed pages never have 2 photos in the photo box at the top. I have moved that and another photo to a gallery at the end of the article, which we're doing with several articles now. Elf | Talk 05:41, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
Photo vote
or
Which photo should be the main breed photo in the breed box, Photo1 or Photo 2? (Notes as to why or suggestions on changes would be helpful.) Compare to this image of a yorkie from the westminster kennel club
- Photo 1. Looks more like typical Yorkie. Clearer photo, can see fur and eyes more clearly, more reflections in Photo 2. Elf | Talk 16:35, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- Photo 1 Clearer photo with more detail. photo 2 would at least need cropping before me voting for it is even considered! (posted by Tekana)
- Photo 1 While I don't think either is the best representation of a Yorkie, I do think #1 is the best of the two. Maltmomma (chat)
20:04, 22 September 2005 (UTC) - Photo 1 is a more typical Yorkie and a better photo. Dsurber 22:08, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
- Photo 2 is a much better representation of a Yorkshire Terrier and much more suitable for an encyclopedia. The Wikipedia contributor who suggested that posting it constituted "vandalism" is, it seems to me, being unreasonable. 68.99.130.81 03:16, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
- Photo 1 i don't really like either photo, but #1 is a much better photo, it is more typical of the breed standard. The "gabby" photo's coat appears coarse in places and is too short to be a breed example (this could be a result of grooming), the blue on #2 is a silvery blue rather than a dark blue, the dog almost appears to be one color unless you know what you are looking for, the dog's hind legs appear somewhat splayed, the top of the skull is way too rounded. The #1 (Nika) photo is not without problems, lopped ear and mixture of blue with the tan on the top of head and face, the entire photo appears appears too dark. In the end, compare to dog show champion photo. #1 looks a lot more like the example than photo #2. - Trysha (talk) 19:07, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
- Photo 2 why do you refer to #1 as a "Jorkshire Terrier"? I have never heard of such a thing. Also, #1 has one ear up and one down. A show quality Yorkshire Terrier would have both ears up. #2 was posted first so put her back. - PupsAZ/63.73.199.69 16:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
- The filename doesn't really matter, although "j" can be pronounced like a "y" in some cases (like Jarlsberg cheese), so the photo's uploader could have been trying to be silly with the filename. Trysha (talk) 19:07, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
- For someone who is so concerned about a posting a picture that best represents a Yorkshire terrier, you'd think they'd at least pay attention enough and spell it right.
- The original uploader of that picture is a user named RegisCartoons. At that this user has done is upload that picture and a picture of shrek. One can only assume that they weren't so concerned about anything except helping out. That user has not commented here at all and has no agenda. I think that you seem overly angry whole gabby picture thing. You shouldn't take this personally. Part of the spirit of wikipedia is people working together to make the best information possible available. If someone reverts your changes, you should discuss it with them - that's the first step. Not undoing the changes - that will just make people mad at you. Be Bold does not mean come here and repeately revert a photo when everyone disagrees with you. That's just getting mad and stomping your foot. It will turn people against you. If people disagree with you, accept it and move on to something else. Find a better photo, or maybe research some information about yorkies and improve the info the page? Is it your dog? I can only assume that this is your dog (and that User:PupsAZ / [[User::Arizonaland]] are you) so how about taking a better picture of the dog, maybe one outdoors, eye level to the dog, with her looking over your shoulder at a slight angle so that people can get a side view in a natural environment. There are a lot of things that you can do to help out make things better. (and maybe people will disagree with me about what makes a good dog photo, and that's OK, we'll discuss it and come to a consensus!) - Trysha (talk) 22:04, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
I don't know who Arizonaland is and I don't appreciate you acting like I am in a conspiracy with them. I was responding to a poll that someone put up who has WAY TOO MUCH time on their hands. As do you for that long reply. Gabbie is cuter and that's all. My yorkshire terrier just passed away and I was just viewing the page. Ok?? As you said, this a discussion and I should be free to say what I want without you making implications!!--63.73.199.69 15:04, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
- I (and im sure everybody else here) is sorry for your loss but i am afraid that does not entitle you to to make random insults at people here. Im sure that if you were to re-read Trysha's post you would see that what she stated was an assumption not an accusation and that it is not something that you should feel offended about.
- Also, I feel you need to read through the wikipedia:policies and guidelines as i am afraid that a picture does not get entitled to be in the breed box simply because "it was there first" or is just "cuter" than the other one. Wikipedians work together to try and make the wikipedia the best encyclopedia possible, not the cutest. Is this something that you simply dont understand, or are choosing to ignore?
- Besides, it is not like the gabby photo had been completely exiled from the page, if you would care to scroll down you would see that it is still there! You must realise that just because a photo is not in the breed box, does not make it inferior or overlooked, people looking at the page will pay as much attention to that as the one at the top of the page! Tekana (O.o) Talk 15:42, 6 October 2005 (UTC)