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Barnstar and Award Proposals (BAP) is where Wikipedians offer and discuss ideas regarding the "standard" Barnstars, WikiProject's awards, Other Related Awards and Personal User Awards, which may include, but are not limited to: creation of a new barnstar, altering or changing an existing barnstar or award, or delisting an award entirely.

Ideas and their discussions take the following guidelines into account. Please note that these guidelines are not strict rules, chiseled in stone. Rather, they are guidelines agreed upon by the community as a way to standardize our approach to barnstars and awards. If you have questions, WikiProject Wikipedia Awards is a group of volunteers who help guide these pages.

How to use this page

Creating awards

  • Any person or any group can have an award and add it to the Personal User Awards page straight away, as long as the award meets the guidelines in the opposite panel. In this state, your award can be used by others as they wish, but it is not an 'official' award, and should not be added to any other award pages.
  • If your award is a Barnstar, an award for a WikiProject, or some other related award, then you must propose it to the Community by following the steps below.

How to propose a new award

  1. Read the guidelines in the opposite panel to make sure your proposal agrees with them.
  2. At the bottom of the 'New Proposals' section, add a clear header separating it from other proposals. Use ===Barnstar Name===.
  3. Specify the type of award you are proposing. Is it for a WikiProject, a new Barnstar, or some other award?
  4. Give some details about the award. Is it a general award, or is it for special circumstances? Is it a topic-related award?
  5. Post your proposed design for the award. If you don't have one, describe one and someone might make a mock-up for you.
  6. Describe the award, and give some reasons why it should be an award.
    Remember, there must be clear consensus during the discussion!
  7. Don't forget to sign your name with four tildes: ~~~~

Modifications or deletion of existing awards

  1. At the bottom of the 'Changing existing awards proposals' or 'Delisting an award' section, add a clear header separating it from other proposals. Use ===Editing/Delisting Barnstar Name===.
  2. Give some clear reasons as to why you think the award should be changed. These must be proper reasons, not just because you don't like it!
  3. Remember to sign your name with four tildes: ~~~~

What to do if your award is accepted

  • Make sure you add the Category:Wikipedia awards category to any images used in your award.
  • Consider making a template for your award to make it easier to use. Look at some other templates to see what other award templates look like, and try to use the same style.
  • Make sure to categorize the template with <noinclude>[[:Category:Award templates]]</noinclude>.

Guidelines

General

  • All awards must encourage WikiLove, WikiCivility, and the other constructive aspects of the Wikipedia community, and may not award or promote the destructive (trolling, flaming or flamebaiting, vandalism, etc.). They shouldn't just be for insulting others!
  • Awards should not, in purpose or image, concern any nation, race or creed over any other.

Creation of an Award

  • For how to propose an award, read the How To panel opposite.
  • General awards may be created and placed on the main award page by anybody as they see fit, so long as they do not violate the basic guidelines below.
  • You should explicitly spell out in the description of the award what it is for.
  • Barnstars are meant to be unique and exceptional. If you wish to propose a new Barnstar, it should be reviewed by the community, and be added to the Barnstars list only when the community reaches consensus on a page specifically designated for Barnstar and award discussion.

Images

  • If you want to use and image for your award it must not, obviously, violate any of the existing guidelines governing the use of images in Wikipedia.
  • The "Barnstar" image should be generally reserved for Barnstars, and rarely (if ever) incorporated into other awards.
  • Medals or commendations awarded by any nations or organizations, past or present, may not be used.
  • If your new award uses an image, please categorize the image with Category:Wikipedia awards.

Templates

  • If your new award uses a template, please categorize the template with <noinclude>[[:Category:Award templates]]</noinclude>

Guidelines for Barnstars only

  • Barnstars should not be redundant, with the general guideline being "one barnstar, one WikiVirtue".
  • Barnstars should be general and broad in their scope.

Finalizing Proposals

  • General consensus must be reached in order for a proposal to be accepted.
  • If enough time passes without objections being resolved, the idea will be removed from this page and archived.
  • If more than a week has passed, the idea has not gained a consensus, and the discussion has been inactive, the proposal is eligible to be rejected and archived.
  • Proposals should be allowed to mature, so it is suggested that an idea be left in proposal format for at least two weeks for comment before being finalized.

Proposals In Progress

Add a new proposal to the bottom of this page.

Wikimedia Commons

Also, I request we could try to send our Barnstar images (that are finalized) to the Wikimedia Commons. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:15, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'd support. It's already been done for the image of the BoNM. Regards, Redux 23:31, 1 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Once we get full support for this idea, I will do a walkthrough on what needs to be done. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 02:35, 2 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Support. Deryck C.
06:09:33, 2005-09-03 (UTC)

Zscout, I guess you might as well go ahead with your proposal, it doesn't look like anyone else is going to be posting their opinion here. Since all of those who did post agreed with you, I believe there's no impediment to moving the images as you wanted. Regards, Redux 20:15, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, what needs to be done is just delete the page and restore the last copy. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 22:05, 7 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Babel Barnstar for Translation

 
Babel Barnstar for Translation by paul klenk. This image is a composite of three GFDL images: Tower of Babel, Chrysler building, and a barnstar. paul klenk will use this as a Personal user award.

Are you a designer? We could use a Babel Barnstar for those jumping in to help translate pages; it should incorporate the Tower of Babel into the design. I have received speedy and gracious help in the past 48 hours, as my new international user pages at de:wiki, fr:wiki, nl:wiki, no:wiki, pt:wiki, it:wiki, fi:wiki, nn:wiki, da:wiki, have been translated by users at those sites. I was quite astonished. The German trans. was provided by a brand new user; his work on my page were his 2nd and 3rd edits. He didn't even have a page of his own yet! Needless to say, I have handed out many generic barnstars; the recipients have been deighted to find them on their pages.

When my pages at ja:wiki, zh:wiki, sv:wiki (done and awarded), pl:wiki, es:wiki and ru:wiki are translated, I would love to have a new Babel Barnstar ready for them.

I don't have good enough software to create a high quality image, but I will play around and place an example here. This award doesn't have to be a barnstar, of coure; I could simply adapt an existing Babel picture into an award. But a Babel Barnstar would be great.

Anyone wanna jump in?

paul klenk talk, International Man of Mystery 12:23, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think this was proposed before, I need to find the discussion, though. Zach (Sound Off) 17:45, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, Zach, let's you and me stay on it and together we'll get it done. paul klenk talk 18:45, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
This was the previous debate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Barnstar_and_award_proposals/Archive3#Interlingual-Interwiki_barnstar. Zach (Sound Off) 18:50, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Zach, here above is a rough draft of something I came up with. I'll use this as "my" barnstar/babel award while something better is being created or considered. paul klenk talk 19:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Fine by me, but since many of our Barnstar regulars are away, this has to be unofficial for now. Zach (Sound Off) 19:39, 2 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, certainly. I have added it to the Personal user awards page. paul klenk talk
 
Image proposed in first discussion: rekindled.
I like the idea for this Barnstar. The previous discussion yielded no results because people gradually lost interest and abandoned the discussion — which unfortunately happens quite often around here (I was myself away from this forum back when the original proposal was discussed, and so I never participated in it). I support this idea, and hope it will get through this time around. In fact, I could propose (or repropose) an image that was suggested in the original discussion, which I'm posting here now. Incidentally, I'll be leaving on a 20-day wikibreak and should be back on the 23rd or the 24th, so I probably won't be able to post here again (in fact, this one might very well be my last post before my break). I hope I'll see this award instated when I return. Cheers, Redux 00:37, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, and suggestions for the name: The Babelic Barnstar, or The Barnstar of WikiBabel, or The Babel Barnstar, or even (and finally): The Barnstar of Babel. If I had to choose from these, I'd go with the first one (The Babelic Barnstar). Redux 00:45, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I personally like the Babelic Barnstar. Zach (Sound Off) 00:46, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I thought it had a nice ring to it. The other suggestions were just so there'd be more to choose from (we never know it someone else will be offering other possible names). What about the image? I know it sort of "favors" five countries, but still... If someone has the skills (and the patience), it could also be interesting to have a Barnstar inside a circle, which would be made of flags — and that would accommodate many more flags than this image does... Redux 00:53, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

But the problem is that so many languages are not represented by a flag, so that might not be possible. Zach (Sound Off) 01:04, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That's true, but it might not be possible to come up with something absolutely universal, that will evoke all languages and no countries specifically. Let's see what other images will come up in this discussion, but if nothing better comes along, we just might have to settle for a representative amount of flags. If we were to abandon the whole flag notion, perhaps the Biblical tower itself might be a good idea, but I didn't think that Paul's first proposition would be ideal, mixing the Tower of Babel with a contemporary building — especially since, if we don't want to evoke any country (ies), it would be difficult to create composites with world famous skyscrapers, which are normally closely associated with their countries. Maybe we could have a Barnstar (or the Wikipedia logo, if this is not to be a Barnstar) hovering over the Tower of Babel, like some sort of guiding star? Redux 02:17, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Or just have a photo of the drawing of Babel and call it a Wikiaward. We do not have to stick a barnstar on everything. On a side note, it is very, very hard to create official Barnstars now. Zach (Sound Off) 02:40, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
That could be. Although if we were to just take a drawing of the Tower and call it our award, it might be too direct an association. I would not object it though. I believe it could work. If we throw out the flag thing, it does get difficult to work in a Barnstar in a convincing, interesting manner. It would be nice to get more input on this though, but this forum is just too unstable in terms of the people participating in discussions. On the other hand, it's actually somewhat positive that we might also be getting to a point where we don't need to create new Barnstars all the time. It wouldn't be useful to end up with tens of Barnstars that no one can keep track of — err, actually we are already there, so let's just say that it's best if doesn't get too much worse.
In this case, though, if Paul agrees with the idea of just having the image of the Tower of Babel be the actual award, we might be able to wrap this at it, unless someone else (or Paul himself) comes up with a significant suggestion for a third way. If not, we could just call it The Babelic Award, or The Babelic WikiAward, or The Award of Babel, or even the simpler The Babel Award. Redux 03:22, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Two things:

1. Is there any particular reason why the award (whatever form it takes) must contain a reference to the word "Babel"? As a Biblical reference, this seems rather counterintuitive (given that God's act was the exact opposite of a translator's goal), and as a Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference, it's awfully specific and somewhat arcane. I much prefer the previously proposed "Interlingual Barnstar."

2. Of the image candidates from the earlier discussion, this one (by Sango123) is my favorite:

File:Interlingual Barnstar-small.png

That's beautiful, and it conveys an inclusive, "worldwide" connotation. —Lifeisunfair 04:08, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, at this point everything is up for discussion/consideration. The image looks good too. And there's no reason why it would "have to" be called "Babel something". But I thought that the word "Babel" was completely usable: 1) Because of Wikipedia:Babel, which is a highly visible and successful project, and which uses the word and, AFAIK, no one has complained about it being too Biblical or anything (at least nothing that was serious enough to warrant a revision of the project's name; or am I wrong?). 2) And this is part of the reason why "Babel" can be used with ease, it's that, although originating in a Biblical story, "Babel" has grown passed the Biblical sense, it has become idiomatic (much like saying "good Samaritan", or "throwing the first rock"). Basically, I see no problems in using "Babel" on account of it being too Christian, or because of God's intent in the Biblical story. Redux 04:36, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
As Paul notes below, the Biblical reference is from the Old Testament, so it's associated with both Judaism and Christianity. (For the record, I'm Jewish.) I'm familiar with Wikipedia:Babel (and I don't object to fact that the origin of its name is Biblical in nature, nor would I object to a Wikipedia project name that references a different religion's holy scripture), but its purpose (dividing people's user pages into various language categories) more logically (IMHO) relates to the word "Babel."
As for "Babel" becoming idiomatic, I'll take your word for that. I haven't personally encountered its use beyond the Biblical connotation, the related Douglas Adams connotation (which actually fits the "translation" theme, but is not directly referenced) and the aforementioned (and equally related) Wikipedia connotation.
Though I hadn't thought about it, the fact that the Biblical reference is Judeo-Christian in nature is a valid consideration for an award that's intended to extend to other languages' Wikipedias (some of which are used predominantly by people of other religions). I always welcome exposure to outside cultures, but I suppose that this could be perceived as an endorsement of one set of religions over all others. (I wouldn't view it in that context, but others might.)
My primary concern, however, is that I don't perceive the "Babel" reference as evocative of the concept of "translation." The "multiple languages" element certainly is present, but I'm of the opinion that these awards should be assigned the most straightforward, descriptive, unambiguous names possible. (Even "The Translator's Barnstar" would be sensible.)
Of course, all of this is merely my 2¢. —Lifeisunfair 12:00, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

From paul klenk talk

Thank you all for rejoining this discussion. It is a pleasure to hear your ideas. My opinions:

  • Keep the name simple, like "Babel Barnstar". "Babelic Barnstar" sounds a bit precious or pretentious. "Barnstar of WikiBabel" is okay, only if the term "WikiBabel" (short for Wikipedia:Babel) is in widespread use here; if it isn't, let's not coin a neologism for an award. If WikiBabel is in use, let's put in a "wiki" colon: "Wiki:Babel".
  • Sango's globe image is really beautiful, and my favorite. The "rotating globe" as a classroom tool also reflects the educational aspect of Wikipedia. And the "earth" connotes the idea in the Genesis text of dispersing people "over the whole earth" (see my aside, below).
  • Do not use flags; they confuse countries with languages. Wikipedia does not have "country" sites, we have "language" sites, and we want to protect this idea. Even "made-up" flags or "international" flags confuse this issue. This is a language award.
  • Do not use the U.N. laurels; it confuses our mission with theirs, and appears to pay homage to it, and it (again) appears on its flag. The U.N. is a council of representative countries (again, Babel is about languages, not countries). The U.N. is controversial, it is political, it is corrupt, it has strong loyalists and detractors. It is too much-loved and much-hated to appear in "official" WP anything. (Sorry, Redux, if my comments are not very diplomatic -- I actually think the image itself is quite beautiful and well executed, and am glad you shared it.  :-))
  • A tongue would also be a great icon for language, but I don't have the time or skill to create something, and I like the globe too much. I would love to see a Wikipedia with a sense of humor get creative with it.
  • "Babel" is okay; don't worry about its Biblical roots.
    • An aside: Actually, Babel is not originally Christian, per se, but Jewish, as the account appeared in Genesis 11. Regarding God's intent as "opposite" of a translator: That's a very cool observation, Life, and I never thought of it that way. However, in the Biblical account, God's actual intent in confusing language was to scatter everyone so the entire globe would be populated. It was the mechanism to do this. God had actually commanded mankind to do scatter ("be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth"), but mankind disobeyed Him, and did the opposite -- he gathered together in one place ...("lest we be dispersed over the face of the whole earth..."), on the Babel plain where its eponymous tower was being built. By confusing the languages, God forced everyone to split up into little groups and scurry to find their own exclusive homelands ("...And from there the LORD dispersed them over the face of all the earth..."). Ironically, the desire to translate the Bible for world use has made Christians very large players in the historial practice of translating languages. So now the Babel account (as part of the Bible) is now the most translated text in human history. Biblical translators have not only broken much ground by creating many of the first and highest quality translations, they have also helped create many written languages for people groups who never before had a written language or alphabet. This was in response to another command, this one by Jesus Christ, given to his Jewish followers: "Go into all the world and preach the good news to all creation..."
  • I will continue to use my creation as a Personal user award (it is now in the gallery). Since I am from New York City, I added the Chrysler building. If others want to use this from time to time, feel free. I apologize to anyone in advance who objects to its use of the barnstar; I will make it clear when presenting it that is is mine, not WP's. And do stop by some of my language sites; the translations provided by others are very cool. You can launch from my user page. paul klenk talk 09:45, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
1. I strongly agree that the image should convey a "global" connotation, not an "international" one. What better likeness than that of a globe? And indeed, that's one of the nicest looking Barnstar images that I've seen.
2. Note that I referred not to God's "intent," but to God's "act." Both, however, relate to the concept of separation, which directly opposes the objective of translation. It's true that the Bible has played a significant role in the translation and development of written languages, but the "Babel" reference is considerably more specific. —Lifeisunfair 12:00, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'm almost leaving, but still have time for one last comment. So:
1) The globe image looks great to me.
2) Indeed, my reference to Babel as being Christian (excluding the Jewish origin) was more due to the fact that it was [very] late when I was writing that. Certainly, if the [perceived] religious connotation may become a problem, it's best to avoid it altogether. And indeed, it is a complicating factor that the purpose of the award is to recognize those who help people understand each other better, not divide and create confusion (as it happened in the Biblical Babel).
on a cultural note, it's a somewhat common expression, at least in my experience, to say, for instance, of a place where there's people from all kinds of backgrounds/walks of life: this is a Babel of XXX.
3)I don't quite have the time to do the research now, but if we want to find a name that escapes the obvious (as in The Translator Award/Barnstar), perhaps we could look for, say, a famous tool of translation, or maybe some individual who might have become famous for speaking an unsually large number of languages (I know of a Lebanese naturalized Brazilian guy who speaks 52 languages). Something along those lines...
I'll check back when I return from my break (unless someone posts here within the next half hour). Regards, Redux 16:06, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
If we wanted to incorporate a famous tool of translation, the Rosetta Stone would be an appropriate choice. —Lifeisunfair 23:45, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
 
The Rosetta Barnstar
Huh? What did you people do when I was out? +_+ Just one day and it measures 4 full-screens????? Deryck C. 16:27, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I appreciate the concern/wish to avoid use of the word Babel, but allow me to point out that 1] use of the word "Babel" is already fully established and widespread on Wikipedia, with respect to which language people speak, so it is apropos, and 2] it has fabulous euphonic appeal ("Babel Barnstar"). Having said that, of course I would not be offended if another word were used. paul klenk talk
As I mentioned, the current use of the word "Babel" on Wikipedia is fairly consistent with the Biblical connotation, because it refers to a means of dividing people's user pages by the languages that they read. The connection between the word "Babel" and multiple languages is obvious, but I don't believe that the concept of translation (or even enhanced communication) is conveyed. —Lifeisunfair 23:45, 3 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I rather like the Rosetta version... although it's a tad big. --AllyUnion (talk) 06:33, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ally, we also have the Barnstar of National Merit, which the image for the award is also about the size of this, maybe longer. The size does not bother me, it looks good. Zach (Sound Off) 13:18, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
For me, whenever I hear "Babel," I think more of the connotation of many languages than Old Testament that was doomed by God. So I don't have a problem with the use of that world. And Sango123's image is absolutely delicious, again. Too bad she's away right now. Bratschetalk | Esperanza 21:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Since it's pretty much all about translation, I'd be in favor of calling it the "translation barnstar". - Mgm|(talk) 22:31, 5 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • I'm also strongly in favour of the Rosetta stone idea, but agree with AllyUnion that at the moment it is a little large. However, since the original stone has broken edges, it would probably be OK if the embossed barnstar had some of its tips broken off too. The might make it easier to shrink the award down to standard barnstar size. -- Solipsist 15:04, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
     
    The Rosetta Barnstar (reduced to the approximate cubic size of the original barnstar)
How about simply shrinking down the existing design? —Lifeisunfair 15:39, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I like the Rosetta image, but the name Barnstar of Babel flows off the tongue better (I agree that "Babelic" is pretentious). Unfortunately, the rosetta image at its reduced size becomes somewhat difficult to tell what it's supposed to be... nae'blis (talk) 16:32, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
"I like the Rosetta image, but the name Barnstar of Babel flows off the tongue better"
But does it logically convey the award's meaning? In my opinion, it doesn't.
"Unfortunately, the rosetta image at its reduced size becomes somewhat difficult to tell what it's supposed to be..."
This was a concern of mine when I created the image (which is why I initially used the 130x190 size). The 89x130 version looks fine on my screen (a 15" LCD at the relatively high 1400x1050 resolution — which means that it's smaller for me than it is for most people), but a compromise size (somewhere in between these two) certainly is an option. —Lifeisunfair 16:51, 6 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Gamer/Gaming Barnstar

The Gamer Barnstar or Gaming Barnstar (probably the latter) would be awarded to, as the name implies, someone who makes a particularly fine contribution in the field of computer and video games; or someone who helps elevate a computer/video game article to featured status. I'm actually a bit short on ideas for the Barnstar's design, although my initial thought was to put Mario or some other famous gaming icon on top of the standard Barnstar, but of course that would probably be a copyvio. Then I tried putting Gamepad_Icon.png on top of Barnstar.png. Made in Appleworks 6, doesn't look good :/ So, I'm not quite sure what it would look like; maybe a picture of a game console cropped to be shaped like a star. Thoughts? (on the award idea and possible images) -- gakon5 (talk) 00:30, 18 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I personally support the proposal, but do you really think that there are many people who deserve this award that it has to be made a barnstar? Deryck C. 08:09, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

DYK Barnstar or medal

How about something for Wikipedians who have achieved at least 5 or more nominations of Wikipedia's newest articles which were featured on Wikipedia's Did You Know? section on the Main Page? I suggest that successful nominations for someone else's new article should count equally with self-created new article nominations. It's a lot of work either way. the DYK section helps keep the Main Page vital. There is a bit of healthy competition among editors currently. Someone else with art talent will need to come up with an appropriate image for the award: I just write and edit, I don't draw!

Mark in Historic Triangle of Virginia Vaoverland 21:09, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Just for reference, a very similar award was suggested prior to this proposal. The archived discussion can be found here. Sango123 (talk) 00:33, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Reading through the archive, I am left to conclude that the idea was just sorta put "on hold"? Personally, I like the Trailblazer concept. So, now what? Vaoverland 18:02, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I like this idea and had also previously requested for such a barnstar since i like DYKs. Can we renew the discussion here? Idleguy 19:27, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
 
Possible image. (Sango123)
As mentioned in the previous discussion, a DYK Barnstar seemed too narrow for an official award, so how about using the Trailblazer concept for creating new articles? A possible image could be the barnstar to the left; green suggests growth and newness. Any thoughts or ideas? Sango123 (talk) 19:41, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. Not bad but not really great. I was thinking something like those product ads that come with labels like New, Improved etc. Actually make that a shining/sparkling (silver maybe) barnstar to denote the freshness. Idleguy 20:16, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I also like the expanded thinking of the Trailblazer, since it encompasses more than just DYK. So, how may we renew consideration? I am a writer, not a Wiki-Politician!! Vaoverland 20:51, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Though I may be a bit biased (I proposed the original idea) :-), I think that we should have a Trailblazer barnstar. As I said in the archived discussion, I imagined a fire-red barnstar with a zig-zag path/trail behind. I'm not an artist, though (don't even have Photoshop!), so I couldn't create this myself. Comments? Thanks. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 21:37, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I like that image even better. However, I writes, not draws. <gr> Vaoverland
 
Possible image 2, draft. (Sango123)

Something like this? Sango123 (talk) 22:09, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I was thinking more of a trail/path behind the barnstar, perhaps to the left. Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 22:50, 22 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
This trailblazer seems better. maybe the trail fire can look better though its still draft version. Unfortunately I don't have an eye for art and am poor at designing else I could've helped. Idleguy 05:13, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The trail reminds me of the video of the Challenger disaster. What's with the squiggle-zig-zag? Some straighter traces would be better. It's still better than the passive green concept, though. Vaoverland 14:31, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
 
No zig-zag. (Sango123)

Here's one with a non-fiery, straight trail from the left. Sango123 (talk) 16:28, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

That's an improvement, and I'd settle for it. However, I was thinking of something like this:

File:Proposed Barnstar Flcelloguy.JPG
Design... don't laugh!

Where the star represents the barnstar, and to the left would be a brown trail or path. As I've said, I write, not draw. Pardon my drawing, as I'm artistically challenged. :-) Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 20:44, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Ah... I wasn't sure exactly what you meant by "trail", but your drawing effectively clears that up. :) By the way, do you want the trail to come from only one point of the star? Sango123 (talk) 22:06, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

As they say, a picture is worth a thousand words. :-) I'm not sure, I really didn't think about that. Maybe try one version like that, another version where the trail comes from the bottom two points, and another version where the trail is in the middle? See what looks the best. Thanks a lot! Flcelloguy | A note? | Desk | WS 22:14, 24 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I like the one that is labled "no zip zag". Vaoverland 02:53, 25 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Like Flcelloguy said the trail should probably come at the bottom... Actually I'm so bad at imagining :D Idleguy 17:30, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
 
Trail from two points. (Sango123)

I tried several different variations, but I like this one the best. :) Sango123 (talk) 17:55, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

With all due respect to its creator, I think the most recent version looks like a vehicle skidding to a stop instead of streaking forward. But then, I am a transportation writer. Mark Vaoverland 19:30, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I second vaoverland's view. I just don't see it falling in place somehow and i'm also unable to imagine. but keep the ideas coming since I'm not good at artsy things. maybe how about changing the image idea to one I had proposed initially like a "sparkling barnstar" (silver color probably) That would be also different. Just my 2 banana cents. Idleguy 06:04, 1 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Welp, the first idea for a DYK barnstar (also available in non-animated version!)... other ideas would just be a circle with the DYK-updated ? mark in it, or more emphasis on a shiny-new theme instead of a question/information theme... And, yes, I know it sucks, why do you ask?  :) Bushytails 05:38, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I think it's a good idea. Remove the animation (and all the black question marks) and it will be the best one so far. Seriously, simplicity > bloat. -- Ynhockey 06:11, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Simple version. Bushytails 06:39, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
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    First overly-animated version
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    Simplified, less-sucky version
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    Ok, so I like making them suck...
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    Bigger ? in different font
And re-suckified. Bushytails 06:57, 2 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I strongly believe that the barnstar or medal should be exclusive to DYK. We hv a FA medal, why not for DYK which is the second feature of the Main Page? And while we are at it, we can have the cutoffs as 5 DYK entries (self-noms), 8 DYK entries (articles created by me but DYK suggested by others) and 15 DYK entries (articles created by others but suggested by me). No need for a hard and fast rule - for example, I may self-nom 4 suggestions but nominate other articles 3 times etc. I like the last version by Bushytails (the one with a single "?" and shining barnstar), though I'd want to see a version where the star is below the question mark, as if the ? is a hanger from which the barnstar is hung. Regards, --Gurubrahma 11:09, 4 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I like the idea of an award for DYK, since I do most of the updates I know the frequent and highly quality contributors, and I can think of 5-6 users that I would give the award to now. Since I'm potentially in a postition where I would award this barnstar- I don't think a numerical limit (4 DYKs = 1 barstar) is a workable or desirable, my criteria would be based on the quailty of new article, the supply of articles with free pics and the contributors persistence for example 8 DYKs over 6 weeks over a range of subjects. I can also think of at least one RC patroller that suggests lots of new artilces and has done so over a few months who I think would be a candidate. Also, I like Bushytails simplified, less sucky version, but the question makr should be bigger.--nixie 10:15, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Bigger enough? I don't have the font used for the DYK-updated image, so had to pick another font... trying to scale the little image bigger was rather ugly... I could vectorize it and scale the vectorized version (I need one of those photography/image barnstars.  :), but I figure that for now, a different font is ok... I kinda like the shining version better (with the blinkies every 5 seconds), and it isn't too over-animated. Any ideas? Bushytails 06:15, 7 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

So, where are we at with all this? Vaoverland 02:17, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I suggest we create a silver shining (sparkling) barnstar instead. My original idea... Heh Idleguy 05:57, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]


Proposal - Manga and Anime Barnstar

 
Awarded to great contributors to manga- and anime-related articles.

This is a proposal for a category barnstar. It will be awarded to whoever makes a great contribution to articles in the field of manga and anime. Since there's already a personal award called the 'Pokestar', and possibly more similar ones will be created, why not have an official manga and anime barnstar?

To the right is an image I've come up with.

-- Ynhockey 18:04, 23 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I like it. The image looks quite good as well, so why not. --dionyziz 08:47, 30 October 2005 (UTC).[reply]
First off, the category barnstars are for the actual categories listed on the Main Page {e.g Culture, History, Science etc.) So this barnstar wouldn't fall into the class of Category barnstars, but rather topical ones. Secondly, what images did you use for the 'star? I ask this only because if they are copyrighted anime images, there might be a copywrite issue in using the barnstar. Bratschetalk | Esperanza 15:41, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I used an old picture from Dragonball (Z) that's been circulating around the net for years. Thought it would constitute as fair use whether or not the image was copyrighted. However, if you think this is an issue, the image can be changed easily since I have the PSD/CPT files. What kind of image are we looking for in order to not be copyright infringement for sure? Is a screenshot OK? Would a fan colouring of a B&W page be OK? Because I don't think there are many non-copyrighted anime or manga images. Oh yeah and, I did mean topical barnstar. Sorry. -- Ynhockey 00:17, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiwings

 
Wikiwings 2.0

The wikiwings are styled after military flight wings, and awarded to anyone who makes extensive, high-quality, or generally valued contributions to the area of aviation on wikipedia. They awarded by anyone, to anyone, in a barnstar-like fashion.

The wikiwings award is styled after Rlandmann's wikiwings award, and were officially adopted by WikiProject Aircraft on October 29, 2005.

This was originally placed on Wikipedia:Barnstars on Wikipedia, but I moved it here to open it for discussion. Any thoughts? Sango123 (talk) 19:53, 29 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Hello all, I am the goof who originally placed this on the official page - I wasn't aware of this page (which is rather silly since it is common sense that new awards would have to be vetted). Anyways, much the logic for this award and discussion surrounding its creation can be found at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Aircraft. The bottom line is that several of our project participants felt a need for some sort of award in this area, and this seemed like the best solution. While Rlandmann's original wikiwings were good, they didn't quite fulfill our desires (it was awarded once monthly instead of as needed, and was criticized aesthetically). So this is what we came up with. We'd still like to call it wikiwings, and given its non-barnstar-related title, we chose the wikisphere instead of a barnstar for the centre. So there it is... -Lommer | talk 04:20, 30 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I really like the image, but think it should be an award for general military contributions or something to that effect. Or maybe 'contributions to modern warfare-related articles'. The reason is that many military units like paratroopers or even naval commandos, often use wings. -- Ynhockey 00:38, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I agree with the proposal to apply an award for general military contributions, but I think it might need a more general image for that purpose. I'd certainly support a Military Barnstar, or, I dunno, a Barnstar General award maybe. - Dalziel 86 13:29, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Keep in mind that the wikiwings is not related to military contributions. While a lot of articles of the Project Aircraft deals with warplanes, missiles, and such, a large proportion of aircrafts are civilian. It may be useful to have a Barnstar for military contributions, but that's an other topic, the wikiwings would primary award articles on general aviation. --Sylvain Mielot 19:11, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I'd like to echo Syvain's thoughts; as an example, we've encouraged wikiprojects airlines and airports to adopt the wikiwings award - these projects focus almost exclusively on civilian avaiation. -Lommer | talk 22:39, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]
I think one of the strengths of the award as it stands is that it's pretty flexible. It's not a barnstar per se, so it can be adapted to whatever purpose, within limits. I agree with Lommer and Sylvain that it shouldn't be restricted to the military, but conversely there's no reason it shouldn't also be used to recognise military contributions, until something better comes along.--Xiphon 17:08, 3 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
The scope is too narrow. It would be pretty good if it's a PUA. Deryck C. 08:11, 9 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, but what's a PUA? Also, I disagree that the scope is too narrow. There is a lot of aviation articles on wikipedia (airports, airlines, aircraft, history, military aviation, aerospace engineering, flight crew concepts and trainging are just a few areas) and some sort of award is appropriate. Given that there is a clear demand (requests from users) for something to acknowledge contributions in these areas, I think wikiwings is perfect. -Lommer | talk 18:50, 10 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
PUA = Personal User Award nae'blis (talk) 02:16, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]
Too narrow? ericg ✈ 17:24, 11 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Maintenance and Collaboration Barnstar

I propose a Maintenance and Collaboration Barnstar. It would be given to users who users of the wikipedia community feel have made a significant contribution to the maintenance and collaborations of Wikipedia. Tarret 22:27, 15 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Rescue from AFD

I'd like to see something like "Honourable Order of the Wikipedia Stub Rehabilitation Society", which could be awarded to people who rescue items from AFD and similar lists by making comprehensive rewrites duing the voting period. I've one particular recipient in mind, but I know of several whom this could easily be awarded to. Grutness...wha? 05:30, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Just took a stab at it, a lot of directions we can go from there. I especially want to do some creative changes to the Barnstar in the background, just unsure exactly what would be best to compliment the helicopter, or if we want a RedCross instead; and/or I could make the helicopter a brown barnstar color scheme and do something bright in the background, such as a RedCross but inside a Barnstar outline. (also I don't like the blue roter blades... but making it look cool might be beyond my skills) - RoyBoy 800 17:37, 21 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

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