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Symphony No. 5 (Beethoven)

This is a renomination (old nom). I think all of the previous objections have been addressed. Raul654 10:36, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

  • Reluctantly object as before. None of these seem to have been addressed:
    • (my main objection) the "popular culture section" is toe-curling. "Eventually, Donald joins Goofy in saving Mickey" adds nothing to my understanding of the symphony; things like this are information about the cartoon, not about the symphony. The paragraph on The Simpsons and Hitch-hikers is far too geeky, and tells me more about the preferences of the authors than about the subject of the article.
    • The account of the symphony's influence is lacking. While it's fair enough to say "Every significant symphony since has been written under the influence of this achievement or in reaction against it", the article also specifies that, "the Fifth Symphony ... inspired work by such composers as Brahms, Tchaikovsky, Bruckner, Mahler, and Hector Berlioz". The obvious question is then: which work(s)?
    • Other than the Hoffmann quote, there's a lack of criticism generally.
    • "The symphony is one of the most often-played orchestral works of its length" is an awkward formulation, and as has been mentioned above, a 70-year old citation is not impressive support for a claim about the symphony's popularity now. I'd just say "The symphony is one of the most popular in the repertoire", which there's no dispute about and which therefore doesn't need a citation at all. Mark1 10:52, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
  • Conditional support I'd say the article is about ready to be featured, it just needs some minor corrections:
    • Under "Notes and references," references 1 & 3 have no link (^) to jump back to the top
    • Under "History/Reception and influence" a quote is cited in Harvard whilst the rest of the article uses footnotes - citation needs to be consistent
    • Under "History/The "fate" motif" why is the quote by Anton Schindler first in German and then in English? Just put it in its English form, only a tiny minority of wiki readers will know German. Mikkerpikker 11:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]
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