Talk:Port Adelaide Football Club
Template:Afl-project "Port Adelaide Football Club is an Australian Rules Football club, playing in the Australian Football League (AFL) and the South Australian National Football League (SANFL)." This isn't actually correct, is it? The current Port Adelaide SANFL club is not connected with the current Port Adelaide AFL club. Would this be more accurately written as: "Port Adelaide Football Club is an Australian Rules Football club, which graduated from playing in the South Australian National Football League (SANFL) to competing in the national Australian Football League (AFL)." --The Brain of Morbius 05:13, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- They are two different sides of the same club. I've seen how this is so explained in different places but can't find an example of this at the moment. --Roisterer 21:03, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Hmmm. That's completely the opposite of my understanding from discussions with Port supporters on sites such as thepowerfromport.com and bigfooty.com - odd. Are you sure? --The Brain of Morbius 06:42, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- Sorry for the time taken to respond; the server has crashed each of the three times I've tried to answer. The official explanations I referred to above are not at hand (they were in hardcopy annual reports and the like) but I found the following (unofficial) explanation at [1]
- Port great Russell Ebert, four-time winner of the Magarey Medal (the SANFL's equivalent of the Brownlow) and father of present Power player Brett, said it was wrong to think of the Power and the Magpies as two separate clubs, despite the fact Port Adelaide continues to field a team in the SANFL.
- "For me, personally, it's an extension of that long history. We've played in many, many grand finals, we've been successful in them and this is an extension of that proud history and tradition and success now in the premier competition in Australia," Ebert said.
- "It just staggers me that people don't understand that. They want to bring in all question marks, but it's the Port Adelaide Football Club. It's an extension of the proud history of the Port Adelaide Football Club."''
- I guess if you wanted to look at it from a legal sense then one could argue that they are two different entities due to the fact Port had to set up a separate structure for the Power so it complied with some law that I won't even pretend I understand but without the aforementioned annual reports I can't really give the full information on the whole issue. Anyway, this probably doesn't help much. --Roisterer 03:38, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Club History recollection
The 'club history' part is certainly more balanced now, but the club still came into the league (as a new club) and as 'port power' and this was changed in the yr 2000 to 'port adelaide power' there is to be no mistake about this. The club itself held a press conference to say so. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Outbackjack (talk • contribs) 9 Jan 2005.
The club was only new to the AFL in 1997 — the same old club simply moved from one league to another, changing colours on the way, and a legally new club (with the same colours as the old one) was started to compete in the SANFL.Confusing, I know. Later, the nickname fans were encouraged to use was changed as you say, for reasons which doubtless made a lot of sense during the marketing department's brainstorming session, but the club — the legal entity running the show — remained the Port Adelaide Football Club. ～J.K. 02:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC)- So confusing, in fact, that I had it wrong. The article now reflects what actually happened. ～J.K. 13:51, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Quote:The Port Adelaide Football Club was first founded on 20 April 1870, and played its first match on 24 May at Buck's Flat in Glanville[1] (in comparison, Manchester United was founded in 1878, and the sport of basketball invented in 1891).
Why use Man Utd, who are relatively young, as a basis for comparison? Why not mention Sheffield FC (1857) Notts County (1862) or Queens Park FC (1867)in Scotland? Probably because they are older than Port...........poor attempt at historical revisionism ala Graham Cornes in the Advertiser. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.43.227.18 (talk) 31 January 2006
- No, Man U are used because they are, unfortunately, the best-known soccer club in the English-speaking world. As for Graham Cornes, I admire your fortitude for actually reading his crap, though perhaps not your time management skills. ～J.K. 11:03, 31 January 2006 (UTC)