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Fix possible artifacts in a Brihadeeswarar Temple image showing on the India page.

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 – DyceBot (talk) 07:01, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): India

Request: On my MacBook glossy screen with matte protector (so not a professional display) cranked up to maximum brightness, I'm seeing crushed blacks marring the ediface, particularly on the lower RHS. Also seeing weird darkened halos (artifacts?) fringing some of the clouds. Would be grateful if an expert can take a look and clean up any issues they can identify in order to raise its enc value. Saravask 02:46, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

I am bad with colors, but tried to improve. Materialscientist (talk) 04:54, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Well, maybe the colour/crushed blacks thing is secondary. The real killer here are those strange dark patches around the clouds, which are still glaringly obvious in the edit. Also, on my screen, the saturation/contrast tweak killed off much of the sculpture detail viewable in thumbnail--and makes it look sort of faded and not "true-to-life" in colour profile--the original looked better IMO.
So maybe the original yellowish colour profile, which seemed to more closely resemble that of the other images at the Brihadeeswarar Temple, should be restored, and just the sky/cloud artifacts should be resolved? It looks rather washed out now, and a simple crop can take care of the flat black area as a last resort. But if there is a colour expert who thinks the original strong blue/yellow tones are actually not true-to-life, then that's a different matter perhaps. Saravask 05:21, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The original was obviously overcontrasted that broke the color balance everywhere. I probably reduced saturation too much, and the yellowish tint can be easily restored (via saturation option). My concern was not the yellow per se, but the balance between the tower and the right part. Skies remain a problem, and the easiest fix might be to copy/paste them from another image, but then the point is why using this broken image when there are so many alternatives available, for such a general article as India? Materialscientist (talk) 05:36, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
This 768 × 1,024 image is what was at India before. I found this new thing at Flickr, and liked that it had much higher resolution. I'm not concerned per se about having garishly exaggerated yellows/blues or keeping it overcontrasted--just that it accurately represents the subject and lacks artefacts. But if the new image is flawed beyond repair, we can restore the original image if you think it is more realistic and higher enc. I didn't realise that the sky artefacts were not straightforward to fix. Again, I'm not an expert. Saravask 05:45, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I restored the unbroken original (no artefacts/crushing/clipping apparent) per your advice. I'd be glad if you could fix any obvious problems you spot with it, since that one will likely stay. Thanks for your help with the other one. Saravask 06:30, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Underberg

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 – DyceBot (talk) 07:00, 28 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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    remove background

Article(s): Underberg

Request: Please remove etching on glass. Leave wooden countertop (with the shadows of objects on it) but remove the black plate on the right corner. Make kitchen background neutral beige or something like that. Tilt image slightly to make fully horizontal. Second image remove background, tilt slightly. Thank you. Gryffindor (talk) 09:49, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

I'm perfectly willing to isolate objects, (such as the vases you snapped in the museum) but you're asking for quite a bit here. Wouldn't it be easier (not to mention a better utilization of other people's time) to simply take the picture in a way that's more pleasing to you? Then we just cut it out and we're done with it. JBarta (talk) 10:23, 12 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Also, the whole business of trimming away backgrounds and leaving shadows doesn't work so well (which you might remember from past requests). I would also suggest the same goes for removing partial backgrounds and leaving the table it's sitting on. In my opinion, the best route to go is to take a picture of an object in the position and at the angle you wish. Preferrably with as few reflections and shadows as possible. Then we simply cut the object out with a white, black or neutral background and it's done. Quality image with a minimum of fuss. JBarta (talk)

Yes, but I didn't take that picture, it's from Flickr. Could you at least remove the etching from the glass? Gryffindor (talk) 09:45, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Removed the writing on the glass. No problem. I also rotated it so items are vertical. JBarta (talk) 15:00, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And just to show you the results of cropping out these particular items as you suggest, here is a rough crop. The one on the left looks horrible. The green box is presentable, but I think it looks better in natural surroundings. Sometimes a photo of a static object looks best just leaving it alone. JBarta (talk) 15:31, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And as I think about it, leaving the background helps give a feeling of scale (more or less). With no background, there is nothing else in the image that gives the the reader a sense of how large or small the item is. JBarta (talk) 17:10, 13 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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SAR Class 18 (2-10-2)

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 – André Kritzinger (talk)
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    SAR Class 18

Article(s): South African Class 18 2-10-2

Request: Remove inscription please. André Kritzinger (talk) 14:18, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done: JBarta (talk) 15:01, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you! André Kritzinger (talk) 15:22, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

White placard

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Article(s): Manipuri dance

Request: Please remove the white placard hanging on the upper part and make black just like the background. Gryffindor (talk) 07:38, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done. Materialscientist (talk) 08:11, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Indonesian minister

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 – Crisco 1492 (talk)
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    Indonesian Minister of Justice and Human Rights Amir Syamsuddin

Article(s): Amir Syamsuddin

Request: Remove boom (microphone) Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:38, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done: JBarta (talk) 12:03, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

From dark haired to blond

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Article(s): Princess Maria Amélia of Brazil

Request: This is Princess Maria Amélia, sister of Emperor Pedro II of Brazil. She was blond haired, but for some reason, perhaps the low quality of the scan, she looks dark haired in this painting. Does someone would like to try out if she could indeed look blond? Lecen (talk) 19:37, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done: JBarta (talk) 20:21, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

It would look great nowadays, but not in the middle of the 19th century... --Lecen (talk) 20:43, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  I think JBarta was attempting to point out the somewhat ridiculous nature of the request; she's brunette in the painting not because of the scan quality, but because the artist painted her that way. As to why, you will need to take it up with one Mr. Friedrich Dürck. Maybe she dyed her hair prior to sitting for the portrait. -MissMJ (talk) 21:11, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Here's my serious attempt. Not quite realistic, but a try. Entertaining, anyway. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 21:13, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, then. Thank you all. Pi.1415926535, I appreciate your eagerness to help. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 21:15, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I was struck by how much younger she looks with the new hairstyle. And "ridiculous" is a little strong. I'd say "innocently misguided". Another thing to consider is that "blond" is often used to describe hair that looks downright brown. JBarta (talk) 21:44, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
As I recall, in Latin world "blond" often refers to any natural hair color which is not black. Kind of bichromatic classification. :-) Materialscientist (talk) 05:55, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. My version ended up with rather yellow hair. I know there are Photoshop tools that do impressive things with hair color, but it's probably best to simply keep the original here. Pi.1415926535 (talk) 22:18, 18 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
"My old man used to say, before he left this shitty world"... a tool is only as good as the idiot behind it. JBarta (talk) 13:43, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And in this case, a clueless Pi with GIMP nets you bright yellow hair! Pi.1415926535 (talk) 15:47, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Nick Pickard and Chris Fountain

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    Nick Pickard
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    Chris Fountain
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Article(s): Nick Pickard, Chris Fountain

Request: Could these images of British actors Nick Pickard and Chris Fountain have the girl cropped out of them and as close a fit to a infobox as possible. Thanks.D4nnyw14 (talk) 16:24, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Damn, this chick gets around... JBarta (talk) 17:46, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Did Chris Fountain. The other (to do well) requires more time and talent than I possess. JBarta (talk) 18:02, 19 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks and she does a bit :P D4nnyw14 (talk) 11:51, 20 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Photo debris removal

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    Photo 1
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    Photo 2

Article(s): Interstate 135

Request: If possible please clean up/remove the debris from the windshield. Also note that Photo 1 has graffiti on the sign on the left, so that should be left during cleanup. Thanks in advance, Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 23:03, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

This spot is for opinions, so I'll let one fly. I passed on this last time because it's a moderate amount of work for basically zero benefit. They are highway signs... nothing special. Cleaning all the rain drops doesn't markedly improve them or increase their encyclopedic value. JBarta (talk) 00:17, 21 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

  Done Although JBarta has a point, I took this on to flex my stamp-tool muscle (if such an expression makes sense). I've overwritten the files with the new versions. Cheers! -- Orionist ★ talk 16:46, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Awesome, thanks! Marking resolved. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 16:48, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Taj Mahal—vanishing point and rule of thirds cropping

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    Taj Mahal in Agra.
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    cropped & centered

Article(s): Taj Mahal

Request: Please see this comment. I'm wondering if a new cropped version of this image—at a difference filename, perhaps "Taj Mahal, Agra, India edit3.jpg"—could lop off enough of the sky and sides so that the image obeys the rule of thirds and adheres to classical Renaissance proportioning WRT positioning of the vanishing point. The framing of the end result could more resemble that in Template:Image, so that the Taj itself does not look somewhat distant and lost in thumbnail view. Any other colour/miscellaneous fixes welcome. Saravask 14:42, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done: Doesn't quite follow the "rule of thirds", but it's now centered and has a more visually appealing crop. Beautiful photo by the way. JBarta (talk) 16:57, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again, Jbarta. If we at Talk:India end up switching to anything based on Template:Image (which, going off how the discussion is trending so far, looks likely), I'll try to have the "edit3" be it. I'm assuming you didn't trim more sky for aesthetic reasons, which is fine. The "edit3" looks great as is. Saravask 13:09, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]
One of my favorite quotes is "Rules are for when the brains gives out." If we followed the rule of thirds exactly, we would have lopped off the top of the main dome. If we bent the rules and used the main platform of the structure as the horizon, the photo would still be cropped right at the top of the main spire. Personally I don't think that would look so hot. So we fiddle and adjust and come up with something that looks generally pleasing... not too high, not too low, not to far and not too near. And exactly centered, which I believe makes a big difference. This was the result. (The photo was already rotated to perfectly level and was taken from the precise center of the scene... that makes a big aesthetic difference as well.) JBarta (talk) 18:04, 23 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup

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    Gabe Paul

Article(s): Gabe Paul

Request: I think the compression is somewhat off, as I took this from a PD movie and the whole image seems a bit squished. Also, if the image could be lightened a little (although not so much that it looks really artificial) that would be great. Thanks. Delaywaves talk 22:04, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done: JBarta (talk) 00:25, 25 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Remove timestamp

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    Jack Murphy Stadium 1987

Article(s): Qualcomm Stadium

Request: Please remove the timestamp at the bottom-right corner of the image. Delaywaves talk 16:01, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done: JBarta (talk) 22:39, 29 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pls Remove Watermark

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    The Batasia Loop

Article(s): Indian Railways , Darjeeling, Darjeeling Himalayan Railway, Northeast Frontier Railway Zone (India)

Request: please remove the watermark, i don't know will the license he selected allow so..... Rahulpattuvam talk 14:41, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done: JBarta (talk) 15:06, 30 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kain O'Keeffe, Jessica Tovey, Kate Ritchie, Demi Harman

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Article(s): Kain O'Keeffe, Jessica Tovey, Kate Ritchie and Demi Harman

Request: From the first one can you crop Kain, the second can you crop Jessica, the third can you crop Kate - can you make them asif they were going to be used in an info box, so they are square and focus on the faces. The same with Demi, she needs the focus bringing on her upper half of her body and a lot of the crow and person infront of her cutting. RaintheOne BAM 01:20, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done. These are quick cuts, thus corrections and suggestions are welcome. Materialscientist (talk) 02:15, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thankyou again, they are okay, much prefer the second crop of Demi. :)RaintheOne BAM 11:33, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kānāwai Māmalahoe

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Article(s): Kānāwai Māmalahoe

Request: Crop. KAVEBEAR (talk) 06:46, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done. Materialscientist (talk) 10:33, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Emperor Pedro I of Brazil

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Article(s): Pedro I of Brazil

Request: Please, first, remove all text from the painting. Second, remove the vertical line to left of the picture. Third, remove the 2 "holes" near his ear. Fourth, could something be done about the background to make it easier to distingish his hair like in this variant? Fourth, fix anything else you might notice. Thank you very, very much, Lecen (talk) 17:51, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

You do realize that article already contains four portraits of the (adult) Pedro? How many more does the article need? By the way, while the text can be removed fairly easily, getting the hair to stand out more would take more than simple manipulation. The color difference between the hair and the background is just too slight. JBarta (talk) 23:41, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Jbarta. I'm going to replace the painting in the infobox with this one. I will also start improving and expanding the article as I done with others relate dto Brazilian imperial history. About the improvements in the painting itself, whatever is too hard to be done, then ignore it. Don't worry about it. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 00:10, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. I uploaded two edits, the first simply removing the text. The second attempting to enhance the image (unfortunately this is not a very good image to start with). The enhancement is questionable, but I think it's a slight improvement. If you feel the same, fine. If not, just revert it back to the cleaned version. JBarta (talk) 01:34, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You did just great, Jbarta. Its looks wonderful. Far better than I hoped. Thank you very much! You were very helpful as always! Kind regards, --Lecen (talk) 02:12, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Blessed are the people who are easy to please.... JBarta (talk) 03:51, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Image of Antioch

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 – Crisco 1492 (talk)

Article(s): Antioch

Request: Remove crease Crisco 1492 (talk) 16:05, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done + uploaded another version, maybe it needs tweaking for levels. Materialscientist (talk) 06:24, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Centering crop and turn black and white

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Article(s): Albert Kamehameha

Request: Centering crop and turn black and white... KAVEBEAR (talk) 01:13, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done. Materialscientist (talk) 06:42, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Lahaina and Coronation

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    There are two other versions in the file history, pick the best one and clean that one up

Article(s): Lahaina, Coronations in Oceania

Request: Clean up... KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:14, 2 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done. Materialscientist (talk) 07:14, 3 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Anyway to remove the creasings on the first image?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:43, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If you mean the sky, I tried, but there is not much I can do with my skills and time available. Materialscientist (talk) 09:13, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Clean up images

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    Clean up, crop some more and turn black and white
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    Clean up and remove wave patterns
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    Clean up and remove noise

Article(s): Rainilaiarivony, William DeWitt Alexander, Keoni Ana, Queen Emma of Hawaii, Hānaiakamālama

Request: Clean up. Thanks.. KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:44, 5 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done. The last one is tricky. Materialscientist (talk) 08:59, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771

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 – Kintetsubuffalo (talk)

Article(s): Pacific Southwest Airlines Flight 1771

Request: straighten back to horizontal, this is *not* a picture prior to the crash, and it is unencyclopedic and in poor taste to have it appear thus... Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 12:07, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done. Materialscientist (talk) 12:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That was fast, thank you!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 14:20, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

CurtisNeeley

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Article(s): Brazil

Request: Do something with them...

Graphist opinion(s):

Please remove the personal username CurtisNeeley from the file history of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Figurenude_by_CN_Foundation_2005.jpg

I have sued GOOG for returning this nude image (and others) in image searches by minors in school for my name. The "CN Foundation" attribution is preferred but GOOG still displays this image due to the CurtisNeeley username in the file history. This case is fully briefed and before an Eighth Circuit Panel of judges to be ignored or redefine copyrite for the United States.
I am trying to remove all rational for returning nudity for my name to my children and others while at school in any way I can. CurtisNeeley (talk) 22:43, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is nothing that can be done from here; Firstmost the image is on commons, and second, such request I think only the tech can handle. →AzaToth 22:57, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I deleted the first upload, then restore the information and had it uploaded under a different name. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 23:05, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you very much.CurtisNeeley (talk) 23:31, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Kaiulani, Rainivoninahitriniony

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    Crop away caption and sides
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    Turn black and white
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    Turn black and white
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    Turn black and white
  • Just remove hole, nothing more
    Just remove hole, nothing more
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    Oval crop
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    Oval crop
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    Determine which one is better and edit the one that is

Article(s): Rainivoninahitriniony, Liliuokalani, Walter M. Gibson, Kaʻiulani, Necker Island (Northwestern Hawaiian Islands), Queen Emma of Hawaii

Request: Do something with them... KAVEBEAR (talk) 16:30, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done. I chose the last one. Materialscientist (talk) 08:07, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Can you use this version for the image on Gibson for resolution purposes?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 08:02, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Materialscientist (talk) 08:26, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Choris and Hula

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Article(s): Louis Choris, Hula

Request: Crop but leave the captions and plate number. Thanks.. KAVEBEAR (talk) 20:15, 6 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

Why keeping unreadable text? It will be preserved in the old image version and can be typed in the image caption. Materialscientist (talk) 07:08, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I guess.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 08:03, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Anything?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 15:50, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure what "I guess" means above. Materialscientist (talk) 23:28, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
A reluctant okay. :)--KAVEBEAR (talk) 23:34, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Could you not crop that much on the second to the last image and leave some more space? It seems to be too close of a crop--KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:33, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Done. Yes, that crop was a bit too tight. Materialscientist (talk) 00:53, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Captain Cook

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Article(s): James Cook

Request: Can you crop away the frame and upload this one to the common de:Datei:Elisabeth Cook.jpg? . KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:28, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done both. Materialscientist (talk) 07:04, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Here, lizard lizard lizard

  Resolved
 – Crisco 1492 (talk)

Article(s): El Hierro Giant Lizard

Request: Remove the reflection, and crop the image to focus on the lizard Crisco 1492 (talk) 09:22, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

  Done. I took an easy way and tweaked the wall instead. I didn't crop the details on the left and right because they seem quite useful. Do you need a DYK mugshot (i.e. 100x100 px image)? Materialscientist (talk) 09:56, 7 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Margot Robbie

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    Margot Robbie at the 2011 Logie Awards
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      Done

Article(s): Margot Robbie

Request: Please can you make a seperate crop of this image please. Focusing on the upper half of her body to her head. She is also quite off center here. I'd like to use it in another article where I'd like the portion to be better.RaintheOne BAM 00:53, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

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