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2005-11-11
Greetings!
My name is Ryan, and it's my pleasure to welcome you, Omniplex/steptwo, to Wikipedia! First of all, I'd like to thank you for joining the project, and contributing to articles and discussion. I hope you can continue to take part in Wikipedia, because we need more valuable editors like yourself.
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On Wikipedia:Redirects for deletion, you crossed out your entry for Wikipedia:Avoid conditional templates. You don't need to do that (and actually shouldn't) as there is a "proper" way to close out delete discussions. The instructions are listed on the RfD page (though you should never close something you've participated in). I've closed this one. Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. -- JLaTondre 03:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for closing it, I didn't know that I could simply remove my own now useless entry. Omniplex 03:38, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
I didn't count but I think you re-inserted
Categories are easy to use and essential like site maps on Web pages. Each category can belong to one or more parent categories. Each category can contain multiple subcategories.
more than two times in Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes over the last 24 h, after someone else had removed them, so:
- Please refrain from undoing other people's edits repeatedly. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you.
Also, please stop posting inappropriate templates in guidelines and on their talk pages. Giving more breath to guideline disputes is possible, for example, by posting on wikipedia:current surveys and/or wikipedia:village pump (policy). Not by the disruptive antics you're using, remember: don't disrupt Wikipedia to illustrate a point --Francis Schonken 22:17, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
- Answered in the real 3RR section. Omniplex 00:49, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
Just to let you know that these haven't worked for some time. -- Francs2000 04:54, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for info (old reply deleted, I clearly didn't get the message at 05:27 ;-) Special redirects are disabled, I'll cleanup the remaining WP:RC found on WP:WP. Omniplex 21:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
As for the 8 inch gap, I solved it myself by moving the Sealand pic, of the tower, to the lead section, and the gap was pretty much solved. Yes, I edit the Belarus and Modolva pages on Flags of the World, but explain to me what the problem is, I can try and let other folks know. Plus, you really did not have to take the question out of my talk page, I still would have answered. (I'm using IE 7.0 beta) User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 05:58, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
- Problem solved, I removed my stupid question from your page, see Template:Sealand table(edit talk links history) and Template:Infobox Micronation(edit talk links history). Picture and table swapped back again on Sealand. Omniplex 06:22, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
I reverted your recent edit to Template:Doctl, since it broke the "{{<includeonly>subst:</includeonly>PAGENAME}}" trick used on the template. See the diff above for what I mean. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 15:11, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, I tried to keep a part of AzaToth's more convoluted solution, but that was a bad idea. It's better now, see Template:Doctl(edit talk links history). Omniplex 17:34, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
- Template:Doctl(edit talk links history) works fine at the moment, more discussions at its talk page. Omniplex 15:49, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Hello OP. Gotland and Åland are islands in the Baltic Sea, and they are about as relevant to the geography of the Scandinavian Peninsula as, say, Saaremaa, Sjælland, Orust, Læsø or Smøla. Please provide a reasonable argument for your explicit mention of these islands and the exclusion of all the others (exept Saaremaa). Country-level internet domains or font size on certain maps can hardly be the basis of defining criteria for singling out certain islands or archipelagoes or other landforms over others in an article on a peninsula. If physical proximity to the peninsula or island size are to be taken as sufficient reason for explicit mention, then Zealand would also need mention. // Big Adamsky • BA's talk page 11:57, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
- Moved / answered in Talk:Scandinavian Peninsula#Åland. -- Omniplex 12:42, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
- Header trimmed to a link, like the corresponding 3RR. -- Omniplex 20:26, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Hi, just wondering about your addition of the two new links to "davinci" and "mono" skin previews on the Customization page. They both appear to display exactly the same?
The "Dummy" link that was already there is just a place-holder (from the removed "amethyst" skin), so maybe the "davinci" link could be put in its place. It would also need to be added to the wiki-system, so that it actually shows up as an option at Special:Preferences.. ;)
thanks --Quiddity 21:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, I know the amethyst tragedy, see Wikipedia talk:Customisation. The other two are mentioned on Meta / Mediawiki, but apparently don't exist here or on Meta. Maybe some old docu, or something not yet installed here. -- Omniplex 21:49, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
Template:Catbar
re: your comment here. you might want to add a comment further down too. ;-) (goforit is "helping" me to death..!) --Quiddity 19:49, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
- I've added another comment on the TFD page. -- Omniplex 00:23, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- Update, this template was deleted, good riddance. -- Omniplex 03:49, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- Good work :) Categorybrowsebar next? and the other 3 mentioned at Template_talk:Browsebar ;) --Quiddity 04:27, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- ack! my mistake, i thought you nominated it for the delete. please happily ignore ;-) --Quiddity 23:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- Good work :) Categorybrowsebar next? and the other 3 mentioned at Template_talk:Browsebar ;) --Quiddity 04:27, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- LOL, I wasn't sure, thanks for info. My latest rant concerns infoboxes considered harmful below WP:LEAD, and there I really submitted an ugly/unhelpful box to Tfd. -- Omniplex 23:33, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
That's quite nifty! I recall that I was unable to produce a satisfactory GIF version via Photoshop. Do you know what the problem might have been? I'm unfamiliar with Image Alchemy, but I'll have to give it a try. Thanks for doing this! —David Levy 23:18, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- Image Alchemy: The free demo version for my OS/2 is limited to small images, 400px or similar. The size reduction from PNG to GIF was cheating, I reduced it to 16 colours (actually 4 might also do, 1 for the transparent background, 1 red, plus 2 reddish for smoother corners).
- Hardcore command line stuff: alchos2 ---t -c 16 -g Red-x.png did the trick, the ---t to get the brightest colour as transparent background, -g to get GIF, -c 16 for 16 colours. The manual came as PDF with 422 pages, better don't print it. I converted the GIF back to PNG to check the size, and it was still bigger - odd, normally PNG should be better. But my mozilla 3 vintage '97 doesn't support inline PNG... :-) -- Omniplex 00:12, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
I'm thinking technical details on how usenet works might be better suited in a Wikibook, we don't want to scare readers off by going too technical, if you could create a Wikibook on usenet it would be great and we can link to it from Wikipedia! Happy editing! -- Tawker 01:33, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
- I've no idea what a Wikibook is, but many Usenet users want an easy access on expired articles (= not more available on their server) by their Message-ID, the one thing DejaNews (now Google Groups) is good for. And that's an important aspect of the Usenet history. Technical details related to Usenet (not DejaNews) are explained in the external links to RFC 1036 and the IETF USEFOR page. -- Omniplex 01:44, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
Spam
Unsolicited messages related to nothing I've done here or anywhere else... :-(
WikiProject Venezuela
Good day.
I'm looking forward to create the Wikipedia:WikiProject Venezuela. I had the idea of creating it when I first made the portal. The project will have the main objective of centrating efforts into a more complete information and a higher quality of the articles in Wikipedia, other media in the sister projects, and the portal itself.
However, the rules say that I should have at least five to ten members willing to integrate and contribute to the wikiproject. So if some of you guys want to join in, then leave me a message, or in this page. I will be back in a few days to see how things are going on.
The motif of my adress is to invite you to join into the list o interested in order to improve the qualiy standars of articles relating to Venezuela and its history, subdivisions, culture, etc. If you are interested, go toWikipedia:Wikiproject/List_of_proposed_projects#Venezuela and list yourself.
Thanks.
--Alex Coiro 21:50, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
- My knowledge of Venezuela is very limited, I could name a few Carribean islands near Venezuela, and I like that their current government doesn't take any sh*t from you-know-who, but that's already based on nothing but prejudice. -- Omniplex 22:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Newlines
Hi, I noticed that in a couple of articles, it seems you would hit "enter" at the end of the line (or use some other means to format each line to use N columns). I ask that you not do this, because it makes the article harder to edit without any real benefit. Just let the text wrap in the textbox. Thanks :) - furrykef (Talk at me) 05:07, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
- Just to be clear, the articles I saw that had this problem were Bounce message and E-mail address. - furrykef (Talk at me) 05:12, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
- Hi, the
textareadoesn't wrap with my admittedly old browser, maybe it's hidden in CSS. There's a proprietary parameterwrap=physicalor similar to get this effect with my browser, but adding proprietary kludges to the Wiki-Software is no plan. I'm seriously lost with extremely long lines, horizontal scrolling of thetextareais a PITA beyond some point. A tricky alternative isaction=raw, it sends the raw Wiki-content to my local text editor, but that's also line oriented, lines with more than 80 characters would need scrolling. The edit form has no reset-button, therefore that approach is also a pain.
Of course forms shouldn't have a reset-button for modern CSS-browsers, but a hidden button would allow to clear thetextareawith legacy browsers, even the W3C validator uses this feature. As it is I can't do much about this line length issue, do you know where to report such problems with the Wiki-software? It's not the only point where I could contribute some visible with any browser ideas, if I only knew where. Omniplex 17:10, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
Related discussions joined into this section, it's now
clear that Template:Ifdef(edit talk links history)} doesn't work as expected
within templates creating table rows. Credits to
Brossow, Algae,
Francis_Schonken, and
Mangojuice. See also what I posted on his
talk page
with a question about his cute solution for shortcuts
in header templates.
-- Omniplex 18:47, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Soon (I hope) {{ifdef}} and its more verbose relatives like {{Qif}} will be unnecessary, see the new Parser functions expr:, if:, and ifeq: on Meta. -- Omniplex 04:48, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Good morning! I suspect your recent revisions to Template:Wikipedia subcat guideline may have affected the use of the optional third parameter. See my note at Template talk:Wikipedia subcat guideline for details. I hesitate to revert the template just to find out if it was your changes or not. If this wasn't your "fault" I apologize in advance. ⇒ BRossow T/C 14:59, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I reverted your changes to Template:Style-guideline because they broke the shortcuts code. Better luck next time :-). Algae 16:21, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- ACK, see previous comment, I'll revert the rest of the header template zoo. Omniplex 16:49, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
It took me lots of tries to get it to work. However, I think this might be the solution you want for Template:ifdef. Basically, {{qif|test=T|then=A|else=B}} is a simple if/then/else thing. {{booleq|A|B}} returns true if A and B are equal, otherwise returns false. So, {{booleq|{{{1|}}}|}} returns true if {{{1|}}} evaluates to the same thing as (nothing), in otherwords, if variable 1 is defined. So you could maybe write ifdef as {{qif|test={{boolne|{{{1|}}}|}}|then={{{2}}}|else=}}... hopefully it will work. Mangojuice 19:15, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- Got it, then we can go back to qif|test={{{param|}}}|then= without booleq for this part. But I don't want qif for ifdef, it's simple code copied from a Meta help page about default parameters. We could add your explanation of booleq to its docu, as a case where it's overkill,
like the hint in ifdef why there's no ifndef ;-) -- Omniplex 20:59, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- Update, ifndef isn't necessarily stupid, I've deleted that hint in the Ifdef docu, and added the boolne overkill to the related booleq docu. Let's hope that the new if: is released soon. -- Omniplex 20:48, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
Not sure what browser you're using, but both Safari and IE make your edits display in a very bad fashion. Why did you shift those like that? Cornell Rockey 18:03, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- Somebody asked for help with it on WP:VP/T, apparently he had a problem with the info box - not sure what, but it doesn't work on my browser when I try to let it float right. Floating left is okay. Therefore I put the pictures "below" it => to the right of the infobox. If you don't like it try something else, I've now read the article... :-) -- Omniplex 19:18, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
- Brooklyn Bridge and Sealand issues mentioned in infoboxes considered harmful below WP:LEAD. -- Omniplex 19:43, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
"folks complained that the Meta pages are "not for Wikipedia", which is plain nonsense" - I agree, however I still think this is obtrusive and not the best solution. Maybe you should add this to Template:Hh, which would put it in the standard header rather than the article header (this would also make it easier to maintain). I still have a few concerns, so could you 1. explain how this proves these pages are for Wikipedia (in the eyes of the people complaining) and 2. provide links to the page/s where the compaints are being raised. You can reply here. Thanks. Gareth Aus 09:32, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- Template:Hh(edit talk links history) is the "copied from Meta" blurb, in its latest version also working for templates (and all other namespaces, but nobody needs this), better keep it short and sweet (as is).
- Template:Phh:Reader(edit talk links history) is a kind of dummy if there's nothing special to say wrt Wikipedia in the lead section. For Phh:Namespace you just decided that Wikipedia specific info in the lead section is necessary, so that page has no dummy logo.
- Template:Phh:Redirect(edit talk links history) is a bastard, starting like Phh:Reader, but with an additional shortcut, see WP:WP for a few others using this style. It took me some time to redirect a bunch of empty (various styles) Phh templates to Phh:Reader, IMO a common look and feel for help pages is reassuring.
- Something like the old WP:REDIR including the complete WP:R resulting in a different look (numerous categories from examples listed in WP:R) was dubious. The complete Wikipedia specific help idea was dubious, I got already in fights about it after I tried to trim the included pages with <noinclude> (before I found out how the Ph magic works). Users don't understand it.
- Somebody said that they voted on b: to delete all imported help pages because the don't edit the copy warning is against their policy. Apparently that
moronuser never noticed that he can
- Unfortunately the folks trying to improve the handbook are scattered in various groups here and on Meta, if I do something it's flying blind, until I catch a rv (or throw it in your case ;-) -- Omniplex 10:01, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- P.S.: Check out the Phh:Reader links to see the redirects from other Phh templates.
Hi there - What is at Wikipedia:Article size reflect both current consensus (developed over the last 4 years I’ve been here) and best practice on article size. As that page says, we no longer have a hard and fast rule that articles must be less than 32KB due to the fact that the browsers that had issues with that are now very, very rare. There are still perfectly valid reasons of style that articles should not be too long. Therefore we developed a sliding scale when articles may start to be considered too long; it only starts at 30KB of prose (refs, list-like sections, markup excluded) and can go as high as 50KB of prose, depending on the scope of the topic and the quality of the writing. See Wikipedia talk:What is a featured article?/Archive 2#Size and Wikipedia:Summary style. The only thing I see at MediaWiki talk:Longpagewarning is talk about toning down the message due to the fact that the technical issues were no longer nearly as pressing. I hope this clears things up. :) -- mav 16:31, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
- The soft limit still triggers a warning, that's what editors see. WP:SIZE was inconsistent, it mentions 32 KB several times, and then in the table it silently drops that value listing only 20 and 50. I'd be happy with anything mentioning the 32. Without unnecessary UTF-8 if possible. I'm a KISS fan. -- Omniplex 17:15, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
portability of code between LTR , RTL and BiDi wikies
- Halló Omniplex! I have seen you modified template:wikivar both at ':en:' and at meta:. Can you please explain how you did "improuve" the template? Gangleri · Th · T 20:51, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, there were tons of obscure self-closing <font /> tags, that's no XHTML as far as I can tell. The (deprecated) font-tag works like <span>, it encloses something affected by it.
- Then there were some pseudo-templates / parser functions unrelated to variables, easy to spot, the items without value / example. Further there were UTF-8 charaters appearing as gibberish on HTML 3.2 browsers (like ¹ instead of <sup>1</sup>, but maybe I confuse this with another article). For the LTR magic I tried to keep it as is in span-elements with dir-attribute, although it was apparently not used consistently (?). -- Omniplex 21:12, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- I realized these days that the usage of "<font id="foo" />" would be rejected (somtimes, at lease when it does not start with a character) by http://validator.w3.org/ . I can see that the new version passes the test.
- However I was told about this way to insert "anchors" by user:Patrick if I remember correctly. Anchors have "disapeared".
- The name of the template started historicaly with "(magic) variables" and expanded later to the full set of "(magic) predefined templates". The links to MediaZilla: have been added quite late. The combinations of "(magic) predefined templates" and "(magic) variables" demonstrates the full power of MediaWiki and links to it's limitations. Best regards Gangleri · Th · T 22:38, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- "¹" was never used there intentionaly. Where did you see this?
- If you copy your version at a RTL sandbox you may find some BiDi incompatibilities. I tried my best at project:Special_pages/!list to make an example for "portability of code"". Gangleri · Th · T 22:52, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
- If the id="whatever" magic is used somewhere (in your personal skin maybe?) you can add the id to any tag, e.g. if there is already <code> you can say <code id="whatever">. Unfortunately there are no self-closing tags (<br />, <hr />, <img />, etc.) without side-effects, but <span id="whatever"></span> should work. No idea what you plan, so maybe that's completely beside the point.
- The offending (my POV with a legacy browser) UTF-8 gibberish was ↓ for IMO unnecessary bottom links, and ‎ where I've no clue what it is, not ¹ - sorry for the confusion. BiDi magic: I can't help you there, but I didn't want to break anything with it. -- Omniplex
much thanks for fixing/improving the table code. --Quiddity 04:13, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
- No reason, maybe add the info where you found the values, is that in common.css? -- Omniplex 04:41, 11 April 2006 (UTC)