Will someone quit redirecting this to Sun (disambiguation). Most people typing in the Sun will be looking for information about the star at the center of our solar system, so it should redirect to sun. Sun (disambiguation) is mentioned in the sun article. -- User:Robin Williams 23:12, 3 February 2006
- I dispute your assertion, and ask for some evidence to back it up. "The sun" is used to describe enough items/products (as evidenced by the length of the disambig page) on wikipedia the redirect should be pointing to the disambiguation page. Also - "The Sun (newspaper)" is the largest english-language newspaper in the world [1], so i image there would be a few people looking for it on wikipedia. Agnte 13:45, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- Most of those items/products have only "sun" in their titles, not "the sun". Anyway, as I've said, Sun (disambiguation) is already mentioned in the sun article anyway. -- User:Robin Williams 15:30, 4 February 2006
- Ok, but you've failed to answer my question or provide any evidence or references for your assertion. I would suggesting continueing to use the disambigutation to provide direct links to the various newspapers using "The Sun" or peoples names, until we know better. (also theres a link to sun at the very top of the disambig page... its not like anyone will be confused) Agnte 14:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- I think Agnte is right. Floyd(Norway) 16:40, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, but you've failed to answer my question or provide any evidence or references for your assertion. I would suggesting continueing to use the disambigutation to provide direct links to the various newspapers using "The Sun" or peoples names, until we know better. (also theres a link to sun at the very top of the disambig page... its not like anyone will be confused) Agnte 14:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
Actually we already have plenty of evidence as to which item is most commonly used in the 'What links here'. We don't place articles based on searches that people might try, but rather at the places where editors try to link to them. Most of the links look like they are intended for the UK newspaper. To do a thorough job you need to also check all the links to other items on the disambig page and see which of those have been disambiged rather than naturally linked. This isn't the first page move with which User:Robin Williams has caused trouble. -- Solipsist 14:15, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- You're right. I've redirected The Sun back to The Sun (newspaper), and put a small notice on the top of the latter article. It's a big page move and there doesnt appear to be any concensus for it. Agnte 14:48, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- There are many astronomy articles where the Sun links the the star in the center of the solar system. If it doesn't redirect to sun, then it should redirect to Sun (disambiguation).-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robin Williams (talk • contribs) 23:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
- Note, User:Robin Williams has now been permanently blocked. -- Solipsist 07:26, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
- There are many astronomy articles where the Sun links the the star in the center of the solar system. If it doesn't redirect to sun, then it should redirect to Sun (disambiguation).-- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robin Williams (talk • contribs) 23:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
The Sun (newspaper) should now be moved back to The Sun to restore the status quo as it was before Robin Williams's vandalism, and then if people want ot move the page it can be discussed properly. Jooler 07:42, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
- I agree with the vandal (heh!) I see that he's caused problems with other moves, but in this case I think he was correct in his actions. The Sun should redir to the disambiguation page. kmccoy (talk) 04:23, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
Fixed
I went through the 370 links to The Sun in order to fix them, and let me tell you, less than a dozen were about the astronomical object, most people looking about Sun will type Sun. A good outcome of all of this is that there were a few links about the star poinitng to the paper. Those were also fixed. -- ( drini's page ☎ ) 07:25, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
- Also ther are many "the sun" newspapers, I believe this page should disambiguate the dfferent newspapers, but that's anothr discussion.
- Hmmm well. Thanks for doing that, but sorry to say, if you checked 370 links and changed some 350 of them from [[The Sun]] to [[The Sun (newspaper)|The Sun]] then it was the wrong thing to do. That suggests the UK newspaper should be at just 'The Sun' which is where it originally was. It would have been the right thing to do if there were a significant number of links to The Sun (Malaysia) or The Sun (band), but at the moment they only have five links each. The trouble is, all future editors are now going to have to disambiguate [[The Sun (newspaper)|The Sun]] when it is clear it was already being quite naturally linked. -- Solipsist 08:45, 10 February 2006 (UTC)