User:Fvw/TalkArchive/3

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Welcome to my talk page. If you want to leave criticism or question my judgement, that's fine, communication is important. If you want to have a chat, point out good or funny articles or leave suggestions or compliments, that's even better. If you want to list this page on VfD, it was funny the first five times, let's give it a rest now, ok? Please add new comment threads at the bottom of the page in a new section (click here). I'll reply on your talk page, copying what was said to keep things clear. Please sign your comments.
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Vfd-ing

Sorry, Fvw, I was just about to add Elbert bill when there was a knock on my office door and I had a long talk. My visitor has just left now. Hold on a few seconds! -- Hoary 09:39, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

URLs

Thanks for the tip! Another case of RTFM, I'm afraid ;) Wyss 14:50, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Redirects to User: space

Actually, you don't need to bother with the extra work of tagging each leftover redirect (after you do the moves) with the "Main namespace cleanup" stuff - that's just making more work for you. If you do the moves for sections of the list, I'll follow behind and do the redirect deletes (and link fixes, as needed).

Would you like to try this on the subpages part of the list (most of which, as you can see from the copious red, I have already nailed)? Just start from the first entry, and work down the list, moving any that need to be moved (i.e. have any history, above and beyond switching redirect targets around). I was originally just skipping around in that section, trying to find big blocks of ones with no history I could delete, but now I've switched to working from the start and deleting the ones with no history, leaving those with for you. (If you get to one with no history that's still there, that's as far as I've gotten.) Noel (talk) 16:00, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Well, your call on adding the tags; I was just trying to say you some work! (I carefully always check to make sure things are "ready to roll" before I delete anything.) However, if you find it useful, to keep track of where you are, it's your call! I'm currently distracted with User:Nickj/Redirects, but I haven't forgotten about these redirects! I'll go do a few now, as a matter of fact. Noel (talk) 19:23, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Okay, restored. The author blanked it though, which is grounds for a speedy delete, I think. Dunc| 23:53, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

zippo tricks

to answer yur question about what is it with you people and zippos? is this: we happen to come from lightertricks.com itself and we thought it would be nice to add information on zippo tricking to what wikipedia has on zippo tricking.


As spanish i feel bad because the article of Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero you restored, it shows the president as a far leftist dagerous political, and psoe as a leninist party. I would thank you look at the history of the article and see all this false data was introduced by only one user: 138.100.17.69 with crealy political intentions. At least i would like to see the neutral articles, many of the things said there are just untrue, you only have to look at the history of the article and the articles about zapatero in other languages. Please, dont restore articles that infame.

is not only a matter or disagree or not, i dont mind that people can tell here what they want, but something different is changing the oryginal article and saying dirty things about someone just because you dont like he is in office. Is like i sayed you adore hitler and stalin... anyway who knows.

Duck Fancy

Why sir do you not like Boners Dias? You make friend cry tears like duck. And he likes ducks! But not swans.

Nice comment in db-template :). Thue | talk 15:59, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Heya, I see you've removed the spam link from Oxford. Could you use your shiny admin powers to do the same for all the other cities the link's been added to? It was on my todo list, but since you've shown an interest and have to click less to do it I was hoping to get you to do it for me... Incidentally, congrats on the adminship! &#0xfeff;--fvw* 16:59, 2004 Dec 15 (UTC)

Hi Fvw, sorry I didn't catch your note earlier. In fact, if I had reverted Oxford, I must have already been half way through reverting the anon users contributions of commercial external links. In fact I did it the non-admin way since (for some reason that escapes me now), I wanted to be gentle on the new user and provide a reason for the reverts. Anyhow, should all be tidy now. -- 22:29, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Great, thanks! And not biting the newbie was a very kind, even if the necessity was debatable. &#0xfeff;--fvw* 16:48, 2004 Dec 16 (UTC)

212.127.230.159

what are you exactly doing. You think these studies make any sense ? Don't do that again !!!

Thank you for clearing this up. I understand. It's just that I've seen so many people changing "links" to "link" whenever there's just one link to be listed that I thought perhaps that one was the standard.

Carry on. – Kaonashi 02:04, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

VfD

Thanks for the reminder and for correcting my mistakes! --Viriditas | Talk 10:55, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

revised fafblog entry okay?

I'm not sure what qualifies as sufficiently not judgmental, fandom, and relevant to be kept. Please leave a detailed comment if you think further adjustments need to be made, the last instruction was a bit cryptic for a newbie.

I've advised the owner and other members of the fafblog community about the entry, so hopefully the entry will be further revised to reflect their thoughts.

My beef with the article is in the first place with its subject's notability. Even if you wrote the perfect article on it, I would still contend it was not encyclopaedic. &#0xfeff;--fvw* 14:20, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)

I didn't mind at all. Good addition. Thanks. :) --J-Star 14:35, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)


URLs

Thanks for the tip! Another case of RTFM, I'm afraid ;) Wyss 14:52, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

re: fafblog

I wasn't aware of the low regard wikipedia holds blogs. I am bitter that I wasn't told this immediately and had expended considerable extra effort to polish and research the final article. For the future, please tell people your intentions more clearly, so they don't waste time and effort.

I'm sorry the misunderstanding caused you to expend effort on an article likely to get deleted, however I think my assessment of "vanity" on the blog page should have made clear that it was not an appropriate subject. See the entry for vanity in The VfD glossary for more info. Also note that nor I nor wikipedia as a whole have anything against blogs, but the notability rules apply to them just as they do to anything else. &#0xfeff;--fvw* 22:46, 2004 Dec 17 (UTC)

Barnstar

Hey, thanks for the barnstar - Admin, barnstar and a featured picture - this has to be the best week ever ;-)   -- Solipsist 22:53, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Hi again

Thanks for your help, i still need practice with the sandbox (i apologise for future mistakes if any). This is the first time I have edited a public page on the English Wiki. If you see any pages that need proofreading or translation from French or Italian, please let me know.

Ciao from Italy

--Wikipedius 21:12, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

No problem, always nice to have some fresh blood. Don't worry too much about making mistakes, there's always people around to fix them. &#0xfeff;--fvw* 21:14, 2004 Dec 18 (UTC)

test3

I choose the number a bit by feeling according to the kind of vandalism and its persistence. If someone just adds an Image:Example.jpg, that's definitely just a test. If someone add "%Classmate% is gay", that's more like a 2, and if that one is done again after being removed before I may go directly to 3. Maybe I am sometimes a bit fast to go to the higher levels, but especially if its a vandal rush hour I prefer to get the RC manageable than to make sure no potential contributor is scared away. But I am quite sure other Admins have their own way how to treat the vandals. andy 21:24, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Sysop nomination

I would like to nominate you to be a Wikipedia administrator—Trevor Caira 02:04, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

That's very kind of you, and is always nice to hear. However I've been nominated less than a month ago (and there was no consensus (yes, I was shocked too)); Current practice is not to have a nomination of someone more than once a month, so I think it's better to wait until the beginning of next year. If you still feel the same way at that time, I'd be very grateful. For the time being I'll just tolerate having to make a few extra clicks per vandalism, it's not that big a deal. Thanks again for the compliment though, it does make it all worth it. &#0xfeff; --fvw* 02:07, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

I'll certainly support you next time around.-gadfium (talk) 08:04, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Sandbox and libeling

First, it's a sandbox. Second, look at the history because you start accusing (if you were refering to the poem of course). Other than that, have a nice day. __earth 02:12, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)

There are still rules in the sandbox though. Misattribution and libel are not allowed anywhere. I don't know who's creative mind the poem sprung from, I merely checked to see who most recently added it. And have a nice day yourself too.&#0xfeff; --fvw* 02:16, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

Pay Attention to Footnotes/Edit Summaries

There is a reason for the edit summary page. You just edited my text dump into The Beekeeper as "nonsense" when a quick glance at my edit summary would have clarified that I had dumped research text into the article temporarily and that the complete article would be readied in five minutes (as it is now.) Very frustrating. Pacian 03:37, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Please use preview for works in progress, or if that isn't possible, create new pages as subpages of your user page, and move them to the main namespace when done. For large and existing pages using {{inuse}} can be used, but use sparingly. &#0xfeff; --fvw* 03:40, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

Cleanup Paul Phillips Disambiguation...

...in what way?

A few things went wrong in your disambiguation.
    • First of all, you should never move pages by copy and pasting, as this loses the page's edit history. The original content of Paul Phillips has to be reverted, then that page should be moved the the appropriate new ___location. (moving requires a user account. Registering one just takes a few seconds, I can recommend it. You get your own user page and watchlist, and the ability to move pages.)
    • The disambiguation page should be made at Paul Phillips, once the original article has been moved away.
    • The names shouldn't be disambiguated with numbers. Ideally, you should use middle names or full names if either of them has any, and if that doesn't work, put the occupation or what that person is notable for after the name in parenthesis, i.e. Paul Philips (guitarist) and Paul Philips (poker player).
    • For consistency, the format of the disambiguation page should be something like that of Roger Taylor (or any of the many other dab pages). Also, remember to put a {{disambig}} tag at the bottom of the page.
Let me know if you need any help. Oh, by the way: You can sign messages on talk pages by typing ~~~~ so people know who said it without having to dive into edit histories. &#0xfeff; --fvw* 05:02, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

Software problems?

Hi Fvw,

I've noticed in a few of your edits that characters such as - and ? get replaced by ?. For example, see [1] and [2]. Possibly it's a problem with my browser (Firefox 1.0/Debian Linux) but I don't think so. Just wanted to point it out.

Dbenbenn 07:56, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Yeah, this is a known problem, I'm claiming a firm not-my-fault though. Some non-standards-compliant browsers (MSIE, mainly) put codepage Windows-1252 characters in what they send even though the english wikipedia is ISO-8859-1. When I edit this, my browser recognises they're invalid characters, and replaces them with ?'s so as not to send invalid data. They should be replaced with either html &name; character entities, or for "smart quotes" with just plain regular quotes. Feel free to leave a link on my talk page when this happens though, I'll fix them up. &#0xfeff; --fvw* 08:01, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

Heya, I happened to stumble across Lesya Ukrainka in the course of RC patrolling. Very nice, I think it deserves a  . Keep up the good work! &#0xfeff; --fvw* 09:22, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

Hey there.
Thanks for the comments on Lesya Ukrainka. I thought it was funny that I just started it, and already I've gotten a comment :-). Much appreciated. By the way ... what is RC patrolling?
RC patrolling is Special:Recentchanges patrolling. Those of us who have nothing interesting to write about patrol the list of recent changes to prevent bad information being inserted, and pretend to feel useful.
All chocolate chip cookie donations would be grately appreciated, but I should say it won't do well for my middle aged physique, which is declining at a rapid rate now that the Xmas holidays are getting closer (sigh).
I know how you feel, my early-twenties physique doesn't respond well either. Still, I'm dogmatically clinging on to the fact that alcohol dries out the skin and prevents acne and hoping this christmas will balance itsself out.
Xamian 09:41, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)
&#0xfeff; --fvw* 09:52, 2004 Dec 19 (UTC)

Hummingbird

A note I didn't feel like mentioning about that particular hummingbird. It is being held by a janitor at our school because it died, unfortunately. I had asked the janitor to hold it for me so I can get a good shot of it. -- AllyUnion (talk) 10:29, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Stubs

Hi, I am sorry if I disturbed anything. I am trying to figure out how to get the {{Israel-stub}} (see Template:Israel-stub) to show up properly in the list of stubs with "images", instead of the "blank column" on the list of stubs at Wikipedia:Template messages/Stubs#Place-related, By Region. Also I am trying to do the same for the {{Judaism-stub}} (Template:Judaism-stub) in the religious stubs at Wikipedia:Template messages/Stubs#Religion, mythology, faiths, and beliefs , and {{JewHist-stub}} (Template:JewHist-stub) at Wikipedia:Template messages/Stubs#History). Since I created these three stubs, (they all have "images" with them), and they are being used, I would appreciate any help in getting them to appear in the Wikipedia:Template messages/Stubs page. If you could help I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.IZAK 09:32, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I added the links to the specific pages of the Law translations - why just one link to the header? The title of the site is not specific enough. The translated laws are commercial laws and not just insurance laws. I beleave the deep links are better.

Thanks for the welcome & feedback. To address your points:

1 - Thanks, I'll remove the copyright notice on the Haystack Rock page (strike that... noticed you already did...)

2 - I licensed under the GFDL, and then added my own "requests" beneath. Consider the GFDL to be formal, and my typing underneath to be a request to the viewer. IMO, 'non-commercial use only' is fairly free, altho not strictly keeping with the GFDL. I've seen user statements "all over the map" on people's picture pages, including no indication at all of where the picture came from (i.e. blank).

3 - All the pictures I added are completely unique (i.e. I took them myself, if that's what you mean by unique?). jkl_sem 18:25, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Damn! You beat me again.

Keep up the good work fighting vandalism!—Trevor Caira 22:08, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, you too. Wikipedia is a wonderful community, but sometimes on RC patrol you realise Sartre was right: Hell is other Editors. &#0xfeff; --fvw* 22:12, 2004 Dec 20 (UTC)

CSD etc

OK - thanks for pointing that out. And also thanks for pointing out <nowiki></nowiki> Jeff Knaggs 22:57, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)


Vanity

Look, do you really want to leave that nonsense up for five days? Vandalism is a speedy deletion category. Using this site as personal blog is vandalism. Please stop slapping my wrist every time I move to delete someone's misuse of Wikipedia. Thanks. - Lucky 6.9 23:14, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I'm going to continue slapping your wrist as long as you break the rules. I don't like the vanitycruft any more than you do, but that's no excuse to ignore policy. &#0xfeff; --fvw* 23:16, 2004 Dec 20 (UTC)
Fvw, I know you mean well, but there's no need to use language that's likely to upset Lucky. I know sometimes the judgement call on CSD can be wrong (he's not perfect) but I've watched him and he's only trying to stop vandalism. I've asked him to remove your RFC though. - Ta bu shi da yu 00:10, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • I'll ask you nicely: Please don't accuse me of breaking rules and please don't police my edits. I'm not the one who's breaking any rules or ignoring policy. It's the computer geeks who seemed to think they were worthy of an encyclopedia who are doing the rule-breaking. Thanks again. - Lucky 6.9 23:18, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
  • One more reversion and/or snide remark I'll put you on RfC immediately. - Lucky 6.9 23:23, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
    • OK, you asked for it. - Lucky 6.9 23:35, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)