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April 15

00:37:50, 15 April 2021 review of submission by Logan Morrissey

Logan Morrissey (talk) 00:37, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not social media for people to tell the world about themselves. 331dot (talk) 01:06, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

02:19:27, 15 April 2021 review of submission by LordGriot


LordGriot (talk) 02:19, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


Hi Helpdesk, How do I remove this notice from my page...

This article is an orphan, as no other articles link to it. Please introduce links to this page from related articles; try the Find link tool for suggestions. (April 2021)

Thanks in advance.

@LordGriot: That is saying: there are no blue wikilinks leading to the article from other articles. Follow the blue links in the notice to learn how to fix the problem :) CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n! 03:43, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

04:53:45, 15 April 2021 review of submission by UJJAL SIKDAR or TUHIN SIKDAR

UJJAL SIKDAR or TUHIN SIKDAR (talk) 04:53, 15 April 2021 (UTC)04:53:45, 15 April 2021 review of submission by UJJAL SIKDAR or TUHIN SIKDARReply

When you have finished, click the "Publish changes" button or your request will not be posted!!!-->}}

@UJJAL SIKDAR or TUHIN SIKDAR: you didn't ask a question. Wikipedia is not Social Media that hosts your CV. Please refrain from using all capital letters, it is considered shouting and also hard to read. Victor Schmidt (talk) 05:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Victor Schmidt: FYI, for future information in case you fall on stuff like this again, the above is block evading (see Jimfbleak's talk page). RandomCanadian (talk / contribs) 13:44, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

08:46:01, 15 April 2021 review of submission by 2405:201:6:AA3C:7D29:6B4A:65C5:6D6E


If this is not sufficient then how is Sartek still on Wikipedia? Delete that too. Both artists performed together. 2405:201:6:AA3C:7D29:6B4A:65C5:6D6E (talk) 08:46, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Please see other stuff exists. It may be that the other article merits deletion, but it won't be deleted just because this one was. Each article or draft is judged on its own merits. 331dot (talk) 08:49, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

09:15:06, 15 April 2021 review of submission by Winnergreat

Winnergreat (talk) 09:15, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Winnergreat You already asked HiltroMilanese for advice and they answered your question on their talk page extensive and exhaustive. CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:32, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
Draft : Anuj Arora

Why my article is tagged by anyone for deletion i have provided necessary citation whichever is asked

09:23:37, 15 April 2021 review of submission by Manishmewara

Manishmewara (talk) 09:23, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Manishmewara You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not social media for people to tell the world about themselves. Please see the autobiography policy as well. 331dot (talk) 09:27, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

09:36:27, 15 April 2021 review of submission by Kookieskat11

Which specific Citations Should I remove in order to make this article more reliable? I have already removed GOOGLE searches. Also How can I edit this article to make it less "Promotional" Thank you! Kookieskat11 (talk) 09:36, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Kookieskat11 The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. No amount of editing can confer notability upon this company. If you are associated with the company, please review conflict of interest and paid editing. 331dot (talk) 09:40, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
Unreliable sources in your draft include, Google searches, Instagram, Spotify, Applemusic, Wikidata, Blogs, Soundcloud, Twitter, Pinterest, Genius .com, Horoscope dates and Podcasts.apple.Theroadislong (talk) 10:16, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

11:19:03, 15 April 2021 review of submission by Bentheshrimp

Bentheshrimp (talk) 11:19, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Bentheshrimp You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:30, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi, sorry im a noob! A submission I made today was rejected and I was hoping you could advise if the changes I have made will make it suitable. It's the first time ive submitted a page and appreciate any help you could give.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Bentheshrimp (talkcontribs)

@Bentheshrimp: No, unfortunally not. The notability guideline can be found at WP:NCORP. Right now you have two sources in your draft, the company's about page (not independent) and a guardian article (IMO a passsing mention + a quote of the company CEO). @CommanderWaterford: FYI. Victor Schmidt (talk) 15:32, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

16:33:30, 15 April 2021 review of draft by Scuddy07


Scuddy07 (talk) 16:33, 15 April 2021 (UTC) Good day!Reply

I created something to add to Wikipedia and it was declined. The reason given was that there was not any reliable references. However, I did include the actual reference from a website. I am confused on why the reference I used was not good.

@Scuddy07: Reliable references are news and books. We also do not consider sports database references reliable. Noah 💬 18:36, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
Hi Scuddy07. A minor problem is that you cite the shallow link http://nhltradetracker.com/, whereas the information is deeper on the website, at http://nhltradetracker.com/user/trade_list_by_season/1927-28/1 and http://nhltradetracker.com/user/trade_list_by_season/1927-28/2. The more serious problem is that there's no indication that nhltradetracker.com is a reliable source. Who is the author? Who is the publisher? What sort of editorial process do they have? Do they cite their sources? Do they have a reputation for accuracy and fact checking? Anyone can create a website. That doesn't mean that what they put on it is accurate. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:45, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

I see the point Noah 💬. The good news is that I have also a book called Total NHL that supports my creation. The version I have is the 2003 book. I'm not sure what format is needed to enter this as my reliable sources. What I mean is other than the total, what else is needed? Thanks!

-noah- fix proken ping. Victor Schmidt (talk) 13:40, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Scuddy07: I recommend using template {{cite book}}, its fields help you ensure you've included everything that's important. Replacing the contents of the draft's "References" section with the code: * {{cite book |editor-last1=Diamond |editor-first1=Dan |title=Total NHL |date=2003 |publisher=Triumph Books |___location=Chicago |pages=start–end |isbn=978-1-57243-604-6}} will produce the text:
  • Diamond, Dan, ed. (2003). Total NHL. Chicago: Triumph Books. pp. start–end. ISBN 978-1-57243-604-6.
Simply replace the start and end page numbers with whatever pages you actually use. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:04, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

17:23:39, 15 April 2021 review of submission by Palisades1

Hi Ive had two pages accepted but it took over 6 months to be reviewed and accepted. Im told that Im eligible to get a quicker review by using "create articles yourself" vs " Articles for creation". If that is so how do I submit my new page to "Articles for creation" Thanks very much. Palisades1 (talk) 17:23, 15 April 2021 (UTC) Palisades1 (talk) 17:23, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

I dont have the article ready for submission but Id appreciate some info on how I can get a quicker review. I just dont know how to submit it via "create articles yourself".

Thanks, Palisades1 (talk) 17:29, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Palisades1 Reviews are done by volunteers who do what they can, when they can, in no particular order. There is no way to speed the process up. I would strongly advise you against placing the draft in the encyclopedia yourself unless you are 100% confident that it would survive a deletion discussion. 331dot (talk) 18:03, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
Hi Palisades1. The Articles for creation (Afc) process is an optional one, and you may bypass it. That doesn't mean a quicker review exactly, it means no review by Afc participants. Whether new articles have gone through Afc or not, they are subject to the New pages patrol (NPP) process, which is another type of review. (Although it's also possible to bypass NPP by gaining the autopatrolled right, that isn't something you'll be able to do soon.)
If you have a draft in draft space or user space (such as your sandbox), you can move that page to article space without submitting it to Afc. Starting a page as a draft gives you the freedom to polish it in relative peace, but you can also write directly in article space. See Help:Your first article. At the bottom of "The basics" section, underneath the big blue "Article Wizard" button, is a text box where you can type an article name, then click the "Create page" button to the right. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:13, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

17:30:49, 15 April 2021 review of submission by Ajay Gupta 0601

Name: Ajay Gupta DOB: 1990 Nationality: Indian Occupation: IT Recruitment Specialist Ajay Gupta 0601 (talk) 17:30, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Ajay Gupta 0601 You don't ask a question, but Wikipedia is not a place for people to tell the world about themselves or post their resume. This is not social media. 331dot (talk) 17:58, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

18:26:32, 15 April 2021 review of submission by Apersonthing3000

I'm new to this article creation thing and I don't know how to do it, also I'm doing this on my Chromebook and it has blocksi on it so I can't really get good resources. Apersonthing3000 (talk) 18:26, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

21:20:06, 15 April 2021 review of draft by Benkof

the artists is award winning, headline shows at 02 arena, BBC and other radio stations in UK and ghana have had him for interviews. you only need to search his name to see he is qualifies for a wiki page Benkof (talk) 21:20, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Benkof If this is the case it will be easy for you to insert independent, reliable sources Wikipedia:Reliable sources to prove your assumptions, currently your draft is full of promotional web links from primary or self-published sources. CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:27, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

22:59:25, 15 April 2021 review of draft by S Tallim


I revised the draft as recommended. All previously uploaded photos were deleted. I now wish to upload photos for which I have obtained permission per copyright requirements of Wikipedia. Please advise how to go about it.

S Tallim S Tallim (talk) 22:59, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

S Tallim (talk) 22:59, 15 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@S Tallim: Permissions for free files go to permissions-commons wikimedia.org, though I am not so sure if they accept forwarded emails. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 05:54, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Issue is likely resolved as the copyright holder resubmitted the permission via the relevant e-mail account. S Tallim S Tallim (talk) 13:45, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

April 16

03:25:36, 16 April 2021 review of submission by Sammy.Muhammed

Why has it been rejected? Sammy.Muhammed (talk) 03:25, 16 April 2021 (UTC) This person is well accomplished and known in Nigeria people in his country deserve to know about him Sammy.Muhammed (talk) 04:24, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Sammy.Muhammed:, we need to see that others have written about the subject in independent reliable sources. Wikipedia is about recording what is already notable, not to promote or make notable. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 04:35, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
I would also recommend reading WP:AUTOBIO and WP:YFA to help understand what is required to have an article accepted. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 04:36, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

07:29:42, 16 April 2021 review of submission by TarunNagar123

TarunNagar123 (talk) 07:29, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

TarunNagar123 You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. If you work for or represent Deb Technosys, please review WP:COI and WP:PAID for information on required formal disclosures. 331dot (talk) 07:48, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

09:30:32, 16 April 2021 review of submission by Sammy.Muhammed

I edited my page to your standers can it be posted now? Sammy.Muhammed (talk) 09:30, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Sammy.Muhammed it has not been edited to our standards, you still do not have any properly cited information and the subject is not notable enough for Wikipedia. The draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. I would recommend you edit elsewhere on Wikipedia to get a feel for the policies and writing styles here before you attempt to make another article. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 13:27, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

09:34:17, 16 April 2021 review of submission by Kookieskat11

Hi! I was wondering if there was any way this article might possibly be considered again in future, once it complies with wikipedia rules? I'd appreciate some advice on this, too Thank you in advance! :) Kookieskat11 (talk) 09:34, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Kookieskat11: it can certainly considered at some point in future. Until then, there is no point in trying to pursuade this further. If I am allowed to give you a recommendation, when its too soon now, another attempt isn't worth the candle until a few months, perhaps a year or two, maybe more, has passed. At that time, the draft (if its used as a base) probbably will need to be rewritten almost completely, at least from a reference standpoint. Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

09:50:09, 16 April 2021 review of draft by Thefrankie88

There is already a Wikipedia for her in a different language https://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miriam_Haley Thefrankie88 (talk) 09:50, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Thefrankie88: The existence or absence of an article about sth./smbd. cannot be cited as an argument for the existence on the English Wikipedia, because each language is a seperate Project with (somtimes quite) seperate rules. See WP:OSE for more info. Goolge Searches are not reliable sources, because they are highely dynamic (Something which was listed on a Google search rigth now may already be gone in an hour). IMDB is not a reliable source because it is user-generated. Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:33, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

10:43:36, 16 April 2021 review of draft by LordPeterII

Greetings,

I have submitted this Draft back in January, and am well aware that it might still take some time to get accepted/denied. However, I am sort of a WikiOgre and only occasionally have time to edit - right now being one of these times. Thus I am asking whether it would be possible to get some feedback on the article's state?

I'm especially interested in feedback since this is a tricky one, my first article about a company. Not an AfC volunteer's favourite category of articles I suppose, but in need for moderation to avoid promotion. Thus I had intentionally chosen AfC over bothering NPP.

Also, this article was requested by one of the company's representatives, but they respected all our rules and did not try to cheat their way to an article (I did all the writing, and I have no CoI). Thus I would find it nice to honour their honesty by showing them that their article has made some progress at least. Cheers! --LordPeterII (talk) 10:43, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

14:02:04, 16 April 2021 review of submission by Here I am using this website

I got the information from a reliable source which is Emporis

Here I am using this website (talk) 14:02, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Here I am using this website You had 3 possibilities to provide more than just one source like it was requested by the reviewers. Your draft was now finally rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:55, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


15:40:40, 16 April 2021 review of submission by Andyseanb1

Andyseanb1 (talk) 15:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Andyseanb1 You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. CommanderWaterford (talk) 16:54, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

17:11:15, 16 April 2021 review of draft by JuwelNotts12


I have this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:DNA_Family_Secrets and I astill dont understand why it keeps getting rejected. The response from one of the helpers says'no independent sources, so no evidence of notability' but there are a number of links at the bottom of the page from independent sources. Sorry am I missing something? I was just trying to add an article and be helpful.

JuwelNotts12 (talk) 17:11, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@JuwelNotts12 I honestly do not understand why you are telling us that your draft is getting rejected - it has been rejected once - 16 days ago - and is currently awaiting a new review. Please be patient, there are more than 5,000 articles currently waiting for being reviewed. CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:37, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
@CommanderWaterford: Declined, not rejected - Declines are "Work on this some more and try again", rejects are "Stop wasting yours and our time on this." —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 21:42, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Jéské Couriano Of course it was just a typo/mistake. A rejected draft can also not be in the Review Queue. CommanderWaterford (talk) 21:47, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

18:33:23, 16 April 2021 review of submission by Dangelvoice

Thank you for your advice. I have re-written an article based on Deelee Dube and would like to know if the subject's official website can be added as an external link within the article? I would also be grateful if you could possibly review the article.

Please advise, many thanks.

I have been attempting to submit an article based on Deelee Dube, and unfortunately, it looks as though it has been declined or deleted by Justlettersandnumbers on 16 April 2021. I have also observed copyright notability issues. I would like to rewrite the article and resubmit it to be published. Would it be at all possible to do this?

Please advise, many thanks.

Dangelvoice (talk) 18:33, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi Dangelvoice. If you believe you can rewrite the page so that it doesn't infringe copyright, see the "Can you help resolve this issue?" section on the draft, and follow the instructions in the third point of that section. --Worldbruce (talk) 18:53, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

18:51:26, 16 April 2021 review of submission by SKPatel7991

I added the approval for disclosure for compensation. Please review. Thank you. SKPatel7991 (talk) 18:48, 16 April 2021 (UTC)

SKPatel7991 (talk) 18:51, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

This draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. Repeatedly submitting a draft for review without making a novel attempt to address the issues that led to it being declined is generally grounds for deletion, and as mentioned none of your sources are acceptable (CNN Money is basically a prose interview and all the rest are either native advertising or sources we would never consider to be third-party reliable sources to begin with). —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 21:40, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

19:08:06, 16 April 2021 review of submission by Theodorat6

Hi, guys, would you be so kind to help me create this page properly cos, this person Branko Babic is very famous in our country, everyone knows about him, he is organizing all the time charity, donations, etc for our country and there must be the way to create this page on the way how wiki aks for. This is my first time writing this type of article and I'm apologizing for my mistakes. Thank you so much in advance

Theodorat6 (talk) 19:08, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Fame is not notability, and unless/until you address the concerns that got it deleted you're not going to have any sort of luck. Also, we are not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident. Every biographical claim made that could potentially be challenged by anyone for any reason what-so-ever MUST be cited to a strong third-party source that corroborates it or, if no such source(s) can be found, removed wholesale. This is a hard requirement when writing biographical content on Wikipedia and is not negotiable.A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 21:35, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Request on 19:25:05, 16 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Theodorat6

  Hi guys, would you be so kind to help me create this article because this person is extremely famous in Serbia and there is non-person who doesn't know about Branko, also he is organizing all the time charity, donations and doing as much as he can for Serbia and would be a shame to not exist in Wikipedia, also this is my first time writing articles like this one in Wikipedia and would be much appreciated if you can help me about it. Thank you in advice.


Theodorat6 (talk) 19:25, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Theodorat6 - Your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. CommanderWaterford (talk) 19:39, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
Theodorat6 It's great that this person does good work, but Wikipedia is not for telling the world about good works. I would suggest social media or a personal website. 331dot (talk) 19:57, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

19:48:04, 16 April 2021 review of submission by OfficialMarkets

I'm just curious as to why my article wasn't accepted? I didn't understand the message that was sent, could you break it down for me as to why it was declined?

OfficialMarkets (talk) 19:48, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

For a start this paid for draft is stuffed with ridiculous name dropping promotional puffery. Wikipedia summarises what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about a topic, content needs to be written in a neutral tone. Theroadislong (talk) 19:54, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

22:03:48, 16 April 2021 review of submission by 2603:8000:C244:2300:8460:8723:3BDE:338F

I'm writing on behalf of my client, CarZing. CarZing’s mission is to make auto financing quick and easy while providing a modern, hassle free way of shopping for cars. The article was submitted back in December 2020, and a few people have made edits recently, but none have yet approved or rejected the draft. Google Search is currently showing outdated company info until this article can help update the SEO, which is causing customers to get confused. My client and I would greatly appreciate if someone could assist in reviewing the article draft. Thank you so much for your help.


2603:8000:C244:2300:8460:8723:3BDE:338F (talk) 22:03, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

The draft has been rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. Wikipedia has no interest in enhancing search results, in aiding SEO efforts, or in aiding potential customers. If you are being paid for the expressed purpose of creating an article, I'd suggest you return the money. Please review WP:PAID. 331dot (talk) 22:33, 16 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
Say, do you suppose there's a chance the company may be notable, regardless of this submission's blatant WP:PAID agenda? There are reference to sources that at least have the aesthetic of business news outlets, but I'm having a hard time parsing if they're truly secondary sources and not repackaged press releases/blurbs. The fact that some of the links redirect to the Yahoo news main page doesn't help... BlackholeWA (talk) 04:22, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

April 17

08:00:47, 17 April 2021 review of submission by KULDEEP GAUBA1

i am writing an article about myself to be published on wikipedia. Again and again it is getting rejected by wikipedia. why? Kindly help me out with this. KULDEEP GAUBA1 (talk) 08:00, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@KULDEEP GAUBA1: Wikipedia is not social media. Please be aware that a Wikipedia article might not nessesarely be desireable. Victor Schmidt (talk) 08:43, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Request on 08:04:09, 17 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Afí-afeti


Hello, Help desk team, I'm having an issue with my draft. I have edited to meet WP:NPOV as a sub. According to the last reviewer, the articles meets notability but written as an advert he says. I have edited the article and I would need assistance from the house to look into the article before I resubmit the AFC for review.

Afí-afeti (talk) 08:04, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

11:25:33, 17 April 2021 review of draft by Lovetogether


my article is not publish till now due to reliable source . anyone can help me ?


Lovetogether (talk) 11:25, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

11:42:08, 17 April 2021 review of submission by Bh00lctathride

There is no yellow text that indicates whether this page is waiting for review. Please view and publish. Bh00lctathride (talk) 11:42, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Bh00lctathride Your draft lacked the information needed to formally submit it for review; I have added this information so you can do so. 331dot (talk) 12:21, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

12:41:49, 17 April 2021 review of draft by SahBu


I created and published an article on Feb. 9th, 2021, which was declined right after its publication on the same day. I then modified the article according to what the reviewer had requested on March 4th, 2021. Nothing has happened since then and I wanted to inquire into whether there is another problem or why the article is not going online. Thank you very much. Kind regards

SahBu (talk) 12:41, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

SahBu You have not resubmitted it for review yet. You need to click "Resubmit". 331dot (talk) 15:07, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

15:42:05, 17 April 2021 review of draft by Nicolaslemonnier75


Hi there, I have been working on submitting some change on a draft article that was refused months ago (not submitted by me at that time). The link to the draft article is the following : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Steve_Pascolo

I submitted the revision (with many changes compared to former submissions), but nothing is happening, and it seems that at least one of the two reviewers that refused the first publication is definitely blocked.

Could you make sure that the article could be reviewed by someone? Of course, I am not deeply experienced in Wikipedia, so I might have some corrections to bring upon request, let me know in that case.

Many thanks in advance, Best, Nicolaslemonnier75 (talk) 15:42, 17 April 2021 (UTC) NicolasReply


Nicolaslemonnier75 (talk) 15:42, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Nicolaslemonnier75 You have submitted the draft and it is pending. As noted in the submission notice, "This may take 5 months or more, since drafts are reviewed in no specific order. There are 5,590 pending submissions waiting for review." Reviews are conducted by volunteers in no particular order. You will need to be patient. 331dot (talk) 16:25, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

17:24:05, 17 April 2021 review of draft by BadSoden1

Hello, my submissionbgelent from @Gpkp with this reason "this submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources".

The same article in German, with the same sources was accepted by Wikipedia (GER) https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Villa_in_der_Parkstrasse_28.

As proofs serve liste: 1 - State Office for Monument Preservation Hesse, 2 - List of cultural monuments in Bad Soden am Taunus.

And book Christiane Schalles, "Chewing Gum and Spa Concerts" and artickl in German Digital Library.

Of course all references are in German!

What else can I do to publish artickl?


BadSoden1 (talk) 17:24, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@BadSoden1The German language and the English Language Wikipedias have different inclusion criteria. Even so I think it is likely, but not certain, to pass our notability criteria. Wikipedia:NBUILDING will tell you for certain. It would be worth discussing this with @Gpkp FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 17:43, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Thank you @Faddle. It is about a historic building in Germany, which is a listed building. Of course all sources are in German but they are fully linked as proof. — Preceding unsigned comment added by BadSoden1 (talkcontribs) 17:55, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

The sources being in German is not an issue. We accept citations to sources not in English. The issue is that de.wp and en.wp have different standards for inclusion, and it's not certain (though it is likely) that the article meets en.wp's standards, as Timtrent says above. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 23:14, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
@BadSoden1:; The drafts must be reliably sourced (with multiple citations). You can see the AfC guidelines here. There are many articles such as Miscellaneous centre, The New Democrats, Phạm Minh Chính which are created directly with a translation tag, but as far as the AfC review is concerned, it must be as per the guidelines. --Gpkp [utc] 06:51, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

19:24:34, 17 April 2021 review of submission by Dangelvoice

Thank you for your advice. I have re-written an article based on Deelee Dube and would like to know if the subject's official website can be added as an external link within the article? I would also be grateful if you could possibly review the article.

Please advise, many thanks.

Dangelvoice (talk) 19:24, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Dangelvoice I've left a comment on Draft:Deelee Dube/Temp which ought to help you. Official web sites may be added as external links FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 19:33, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

22:20:29, 17 April 2021 review of submission by Dangelvoice

Thank you for your advice and comments. Some adjustments have been made, and I would be grateful if you could review the article based on Deelee Dube for submission.

Please advise, many thanks.

Dangelvoice (talk) 22:20, 17 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

April 18

Request on 04:15:02, 18 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by JASWANT SINGH 07

In my opinion my article is under wikipedia's notability.My company's is well known in Mumbai for its valuable features and contributions during covid period. So i request authors to please publish this article so as many people would know about this company by reading on wikipedia's. I believe encyclopedia is for every topic and that's why i believe you will take action on my concern

JASWANT SINGH 07 (talk) 04:15, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

In my opinion my article was notable in every aspect of wikipedia's. Lockfisher company is well reputed firm which is very popular in Mumbai for its contribution and work during the period of covid so we find a need to publish an article on wikipedia's so that more and more people would able to know about Lockfisher. I believe encyclopedia provide knowledge about every single good or bad thing so i request you take proper action against my concern.

JASWANT SINGH 07 (talk) 04:20, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


In my opinion my article was notable in every aspect of wikipedia's. Lockfisher company is well reputed firm which is very popular in Mumbai for its contribution and work during the period of covid so we find a need to publish an article on wikipedia's so that more and more people would able to know about Lockfisher. I believe encyclopedia provide knowledge about every single good or bad thing so i request you take proper action against my concern JASWANT SINGH 07 (talk) 04:21, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

I have merged your duplicate requests. To answer your question, your draft contains zero reliable sources. This is an encyclopedia, not a business directory. Also see WP:COI. --Kinu t/c 04:29, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

06:14:27, 18 April 2021 review of submission by Nikhil5008

06:14:27, 18 April 2021 review of submission by Nikhil5008

Nikhil5008 (talk) 06:14, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

What is your connexion to the company?A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 12:42, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

07:17:50, 18 April 2021 review of draft by Asingleton-green


I am working on an article about a long-running nightclub in New York City. Two videos (by different groups) were filmed at the club and offer an historic view of the unique interior. Both videos received wide airplay on channels like MTV. Is it appropriate to link those videos to the article? Or should they be placed in a “References” section? What is the proper way to do that? Thanks in advance.

Asingleton-green (talk) 07:17, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Asingleton-green Please see Wikipedia:Citing sources#Film, television, or video recordings for information on citing a video. 331dot (talk) 08:06, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
Asingleton-green fix broken ping Victor Schmidt (talk) 10:49, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

10:05:29, 18 April 2021 review of draft by Triojan LLP

I want to publish an article about a conglomerate in Wiki, but it has been rejected, saying that it is sounding like an advertisement. I want to understand how I can make it sound more factual.

Triojan LLP (talk) 10:05, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Triojan LLP I only had to read the opening to see that the draft is an advertisement. Any and all language that is like "The company aims to provide high-quality products and services to its customers" needs to be removed. The draft should only summarize what independent reliable sources with significant coverage have chosen on their own to say about the company, showing how it meets Wikipedia's special definition of a notable company. Press releases, announcements of routine business activities, the company website, brief mentions, staff interviews, and other primary sources do not establish notability. Please see Your first article
Please see your user talk page for important information regarding your username. 331dot (talk) 11:01, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

14:21:25, 18 April 2021 review of draft by Inspiress

  • I have not gotten any help asking this question over a day ago. Please help me!**

I have gathered evidence from all independent sources and many reliable sources and have written the article from a neutral point of view, I do not understand why my article is tagged as "read more like an advertisement"?? I am not advertising anything in the article, and I am totally independent from this person I am writing about. I would like more detailed response than simply "it reads like an advertisement", such as where I should reword, what I should add more, etc. This is a polite ask for help based on the review. I would appreciate it if any experienced editor can help me point out what I should change.

  • Note: I have gathered as much information about the person I am writing on as possible. As far as providing further detail on any topic, I am unable to gather more details about her.

Inspiress (talk) 14:21, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Inspiress: I can see why this was declined. There is a lot of WP:PUFFERY in the draft. Things like "She is known as the pioneer of Eldercare" Says who? Just her? The Career section is completely unreferenced and reads like that of a Resume/CV which is also a form of advertising. This is not neutral or stated by any source. Using her own articles as references to prove she wrote for certain publications is a form of WP:OR and can be considered advertising. Even listing each and every publication is a form of advertising, we generally don't care about newspaper or magazine articles they write unless they have made a major impact in her career. Listing highly cited academic writings may also be acceptable. This is the things I noticed from a precursory scan. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 19:48, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Mcmatter: Thank you for the helpful feedback, I will focus on improving upon the points you have mentioned - adding more citations to support the article. There are several points I would like to confirm with you in order to fully understand your response:
For one news agency, I have cited the person's profile page as posted in the news agency. As for the other news agencies, I managed to only find archived columns from the person and there was no online profile for her, what relevant citations other than her published columns could I cite? I have only used her own columns to cite proof of her being a columnist and when introducing what she wrote in her own columns briefly. In the career section, except for the first paragraph and the first sentence of the second paragraph, the rest of the section except for the first paragraph (which I forgot to cite) has citations placed for each statement from various interviews with her.
Again, thank you for your reply! User:Inspiress (talk)/(contrib) 20 April 2021 (UTC)
@Inspiress: If no one has written about the subject that isn't connected to her then she may not qualify, currently, for an article on the English Wikipedia. Unless you can prove she meets any of the criteria in WP:NACADEMIC or WP:GNG and even then it may be a very short article which we call a stub based just on basic information. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 22:59, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
@Mcmatter: Actually, from an academic side, she has been cited by many subsequent scholars in their journals and academic reports for her expertise, etc. so I could reference those for citations instead. Thank you for the idea! I think I'll focus on more of her academic accomplishments. And yes, it will most likely be a stub. User:Inspiress (talk)/(contrib) 20 April 2021 (UTC)

14:56:55, 18 April 2021 review of submission by Vajradiamond

Vajradiamond (talk) 14:56, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


This is a translation of the Mandarin article of 谷秀衡

Hi Vajradiamond. Are you trying to say that you think Draft:Thomas H. Ku should be accepted for publication because the topic exists at zh:谷秀衡? Each language version of Wikipedia operates according to it own set of rules, set by the community of editors who contribute there. So an article may be suitable for the Mandarin Wikipedia but not the English Wikipedia, or vice versa. Also the existence of an article somewhere does not mean it should exist there, it may only mean that no one has gotten around to deleting it yet.
The acceptability of the draft depends on the sources it cites. At present it cites no sources, so is completely unacceptable. When you translated the Mandarin article, you didn't copy the three sources it cites. If you wish to continue working on the topic, you could start by citing those sources in your translation. You also would need to find additional independent, reliable, secondary sources that contain significant coverage of him. Only two of the three sources from the Mandarin article are independent of him, and those two are both about his fatal fall from his balcony, so they don't demonstrate significant coverage over a period of time. If you find several suitable sources, you may ask the reviewer to reconsider the rejection of the draft. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:47, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

OK I understand. Thank you for letting me know.

14:57:51, 18 April 2021 review of submission by Vajradiamond

Vajradiamond (talk) 14:57, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

How do I do a translation of an Mandarin article in English?

@Vajradiamond: If you can read and write both languages, you read it from one and write a translated form in the other. We don't want to see machine translations as a machine does not always capture context and may missed key points in the translation. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 15:19, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Mcmatter OK I understand, thank you for your advice Mcmatter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vajradiamond (talkcontribs) 15:29, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Machine translation also generally returns incomprehensible word salad if used for South and East Asian languages. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 00:30, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

16:55:44, 18 April 2021 review of submission by Preethi srinivasa

Hello Wiki,

My article is being rejected on regular basis,I would like to get some advice in this regard.

I have Good fan following who are interested to know about me and the works i have been involved, there are multiple interview telecasted about me on different platforms, so i felt wiki is best place where people can find complete details about me, in this regard i am adding my details here, would like to know what needs to change in my article to make this accepted.

Regards Preethi

Preethi srinivasa (talk) 16:55, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Preethi srinivasa: You shouldn't be writing about yourself, full stop. We are not interested in a rerun of the Seigenthaler incident. Every biographical claim that could potentially be challenged for any reason what-so-ever MUST be cited to a strong third-party source that corroborates the claim or, if no such source(s) can be found, removed wholesale. This is a hard requirement when writing any sort of biographical content on Wikipedia and is not negotiable.A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 00:34, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

17:58:08, 18 April 2021 review of submission by Zindacraze

Zindacraze (talk) 17:58, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

i have used my own data and photographs

This draft has been deleted for being overly promotional. All articles must be written from a neutral point of view. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:06, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

18:46:37, 18 April 2021 review of submission by Foodu10

Foodu10 (talk) 18:46, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

The draft reads like an advertisement. To be included in Wikipedia, all articles must be written from a neutral point of view. If you have a conflict of interest, you are obligated to disclose it. Thank you. Extraordinary Writ (talk) 23:09, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

19:37:30, 18 April 2021 review of draft by Lucyschneider

Requesting help to get my first page submission up to guideline standards. I have made multiple changes as requested to comply already, but it is still not enough. Any further suggestions would be much appreciated.


Lucyschneider (talk) 19:37, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

None of the sources you proffer are significant coverage, and two of your sources are defunct. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 00:37, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

20:17:12, 18 April 2021 review of submission by 2401:4900:5249:9A16:F893:9FBC:A543:D327

2401:4900:5249:9A16:F893:9FBC:A543:D327 (talk) 20:17, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


20:17:35, 18 April 2021 review of draft by Good194

I don't know how to submit this material as edits to the existing page, using the easier formatting system that I used for this draft. I am working on addressing the other points you make. Thank you so much for your assistance. Good194 (talk) 20:17, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

20:48:07, 18 April 2021 review of submission by Joolspayne

Hi I have realised the addition of the Last Will and Testament is inappropriate, but cannot find out how to remove it.

Joolspayne (talk) 20:48, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


21:37:25, 18 April 2021 review of draft by Delbarital


Sorry for bringing this up again but I feel like I'm stuck in a weird position. I checked the notability page and read the substantial coverage examples, yet they are irrelevant:

Examples of substantial coverage that would generally be sufficient to meet the requirement:
A news article discussing a prolonged controversy regarding a corporate merger, - this is irrelevant because although Next acquired two companies, there was no controversy.
A scholarly article, a book passage, or ongoing media coverage focusing on a product or organization, - this is irrelevant because the ongoing media coverage of insurance company is not something that happens, even for very large an well established insurance companies.
A documentary film exploring environmental impact of the corporation's facilities or products, - this is irrelevant because there is no environmental impact of next as an insurance startup
An encyclopedia entry giving an overview of the history of an organization, - this is irrelevant because we are talking about a startup
A report by a consumer watchdog organization on the safety of a specific product, - this is irrelevant because there are no potential safety issues when it comes to insurance
An extensive how-to guide written by people wholly independent of the company or product (e.g. For Dummies). - this is irrelevant for this type of service

Yet the company is one of the largest private companies in the world based on its valuation. The vast majority of startups in the list of "unicorns" have articles, while most have similar or less coverage compared to Next. For example: Ginkgo Bioworks, Stripe_(company), Carta (software company), Afiniti.
Furthermore, similar companies in the same space, such as Hippo (company), Root, Inc., Lemonade, Inc., all don't have in-depth references that follow the notability guidelines (as far as I understand).

I understand the guidelines, but it seems most articles about startups don't follow them, so I don't understand what am I doing differently that caused the article to be declined?

Delbarital (talk) 21:37, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Delbarital The issue is that a startup that does not have significant coverage (this list is a list if examples, not a definitive list) is not yet suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia.
Wikipedia:OTHERCRAPEXISTS is useful here. You are welcome, if you have a policy based reason, to nominate any and every article that does not meet the occlusion criteria for deletion. Over time Wikipedia has become tougher to get an article accepted in, Standards are being raised continually. Borderline articles where one turned a hair in, say, 2010, those would not be accepted today.
All you can do is concentrate on quality of referencing. Wikipedia:Too soon may well apply to your chosen corporation
I have not looked at your draft, nor the other articles. I'm speaking generically FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 21:46, 18 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

April 19

02:39:42, 19 April 2021 review of submission by Sharsuni

Sharsuni (talk) 02:39, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

02:45:05, 19 April 2021 review of submission by Sharsuni

Coz i thought the you did speedy deletion by mistake coz my page is not violating any copyright guidelines. So i submitted for re review

Sharsuni (talk) 02:45, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

It's not being deleted for copyright, it's being deleted because it's an inappropriate use of userspace. Wikipedia is not social media or a billboard. —A little blue Bori v^_^v Jéské Couriano 03:11, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

07:07:09, 19 April 2021 review of draft by KapowKapow


I have been attempting to learn the ropes of article creation by submitting new pages about fashion labels not yet represented in Wikipedia. This submission was declined due to not being 'adequately supported by reliable resources' and as 'the submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia'.

Would it be possible to get some examples of where I am going wrong? I have only used mainstream media outlets as sources and as far as I can tell, the quality of my sources doesn't differ from other fashion-related Wiki pages.

In terms of language, all sentences basically paraphrase the sources, none of which are advertisements. It would be really helpful if you could point out some examples of particular words or phrases that are not suitable for an encyclopedic article; and also examples of sources that are not suitable. Thanks a lot for your help!

KapowKapow (talk) 07:07, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Here are some examples of advertising.. "the brand quickly went from selling 200 swimsuits a season to hundreds of thousands", "The line consists of gold and silver plated bracelets, necklaces, rings and earrings, with prices ranging from £16-£60", "Melissa’s customers were requesting beachwear that’s glamorous enough to wear on a night out, so I said let’s do it!" Theroadislong (talk) 07:31, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

08:12:52, 19 April 2021 review of submission by Cksaad

I did review my published page and added more sources for the person I added, interviews done and articles abouth that person. does meet the requirements?

Cksaad (talk) 08:12, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

08:48:39, 19 April 2021 review of submission by Paraiso Pal

Paraiso Pal (talk) 08:48, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Paraiso Pal You don't ask a question, but the draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 09:00, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

09:00:15, 19 April 2021 review of draft by 78.16.145.51

Hi there, I need help on the types of citations to prove education. Example: In 2008, Beggs completed the Leadership 4 Growth Programme at the Stanford Graduate School of Business, in California. In 2010 he completed a Diploma in Intellectual Property and Information Technology Law from the Law Society of Ireland.[citation needed]

To my knowledge, a degree/ certificate is not adequate so I would be grateful to get some help on the kind of citations needed.

Thanks

78.16.145.51 (talk) 09:00, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

All you have to do is cite the source that you got the information from, where did you get it from? Theroadislong (talk) 10:02, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

09:44:44, 19 April 2021 review of submission by Steven Anderson

The links and references that I included in the article was all that I could find. I'm hoping I don't have to add anymore references.

Steven Anderson (talk) 09:44, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Steven Anderson The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. No amount of editing can confer notability on the subject. 331dot (talk) 09:49, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

09:45:26, 19 April 2021 review of draft by Dalia Soliman CoE

The article I wrote was reviewed and declined. The reviewer told me to remove external links, what I did is my article now ready for a positive review? Thanks a lot for your help!

Dalia Soliman CoE (talk) 09:45, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Dalia Soliman CoE Please be patient, your draft had been resubmitted and is awaiting a new review - currently are more than 5,000 drafts waiting for a review, it can take up to several months. CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:11, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

10:00:54, 19 April 2021 review of submission by MRCKH

MRCKH (talk) 10:00, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

MRCKH You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 10:05, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

10:55:14, 19 April 2021 review of submission by Paraiso Pal

My article is self-sufficient at the moment I would like it to be reviewed. Thanks.-->}}


Paraiso Pal (talk) 10:55, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Paraiso Pal As already stated, your draft was rejected, meaning it will not be considered further. No amount of editing can confer notability on the subject. If you have additional comment, please edit this existing section, instead of creating additional sections. 331dot (talk) 10:56, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

12:43:47, 19 April 2021 review of submission by 111.119.239.74

111.119.239.74 (talk) 12:43, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


14:50:39, 19 April 2021 review of submission by Alhashish

I would like to create an English version of this Japanese article(https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/舐達麻). However my draft has been rejected as "not sufficiently notable for inclusion in Wikipedia". Actually this rap group is arguably one of the most famous rap groups in Japan at the moment. Some of its official music videos gained more than ten million views. I think this article is quite noteworthy for inclusion in Wikipedia. Alhashish (talk) 14:50, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

The article consists of links to YouTube videos and a link to the jawiki article about the topic. As it stands, this is not a properly referenced article and does not establish notability whatsoever. --Kinu t/c 15:48, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

15:09:08, 19 April 2021 review of submission by Earth and the moon

Earth and the moon (talk) 15:09, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

The draft contains no sourced information about why this topic is notable. --Kinu t/c 15:46, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

15:13:42, 19 April 2021 review of submission by Paraiso Pal

Paraiso Pal (talk) 15:13, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Paraiso Pal uploading copyright files to Commons and using copyright text on Wikipedia are both serious errors FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 22:00, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


15:41:56, 19 April 2021 review of draft by 24.101.83.131

Hello! Sorry for the copy and pasted message below, but I have tried reaching out to reviewers about this question and am a little tired of typing it :(.


Question ---> Hello! Thank you for reading this and sorry for taking up your time. I have been working on an article with my partner for quite a while, but it has been denied multiple times. I believe you were one of the first reviewers on this article and I was hoping I could get some insight into how I can get this published.

First here is the article in question.

---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Naoki_Terada

My first question is why has this article not been approved when the Japanese version has and is basically the same thing just translated?

Japanese article ---> https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%AF%BA%E7%94%B0%E5%B0%9A%E6%A8%B9

Also, I have been speaking with another reviewer, but I could not get a good answer from them regarding this. The other reviewer kept mentioning sources, but my partner found other similar articles that have much less sources than our article.

Article 1 ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arata_Isozaki

Article 2 ---> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kazutoshi_Sat%C5%8D

Any insight or help you could provide would be great since my partner is really eager to have this published and we have been working on it for a very long time.

Thank you!


24.101.83.131 (talk) 15:41, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi Chatsha57. Each language version of Wikipedia operates according to its own set of rules, set by the community of editors who contribute there, so an article may be suitable for the Japanese Wikipedia but not the English one, or vice versa.
Wikipedia is forever a work in progress. It contains high quality articles and poor quality ones. The existence of an article does not mean it meets Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. It may only mean that no one has gotten around to deleting it yet. So it is not a good excuse to create similar articles. The essay WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS may help you understand why. If you wish to learn from example articles, be sure to use only Wikipedia's best. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:36, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

15:47:44, 19 April 2021 review of submission by Paraiso Pal

Paraiso Pal (talk) 15:47, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

See the answer to your question above. Repeatedly posting the same (non-)question here won't change the fact that the draft was rejected. --Kinu t/c 15:50, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

16:15:43, 19 April 2021 review of draft by Acolytetchy

Hello,

I recently submitted the draft to the page Oded Kafri (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Oded_Kafri) for review, and it got declined with the following reason: "This submission appears to read more like an advertisement than an entry in an encyclopedia. Encyclopedia articles need to be written from a neutral point of view, and should refer to a range of independent, reliable, published sources, not just to materials produced by the creator of the subject being discussed. This is important so that the article can meet Wikipedia's verifiability policy and the notability of the subject can be established. If you still feel that this subject is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia, please rewrite your submission to comply with these policies.".

I'd like to know more details about what I could change/add to the text to make this page possible to be submitted. Oded is currently a public person in Germany as an artist. Most of the information I could get were articles where his concerts / acts were taking place, some biography texts from interviews and relevant YouTube videos (over millions of views). I tried to take a good read at the requirements from Wikipedia, but it's been not so easy to understand how to do things correctly. It's my first time submitting an article and it's been a little bit overwhelming, but I wanted to do this for him, because as a street/studio performer the page would be of much meaning to him and to his career.

If there's a way of knowing more exactly what is sounding too "advertising" on the writing style, or what else is stopping the page from being accepted, that would be nice. Thanks, Acolytetchy (talk) 16:15, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Acolytetchy (talk) 16:15, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

This is an example of advertising "Oded has built a strong presence on YouTube mainly from videos made by spectators in the streets of London and Hamburg, where he used to play frequently." this is totally unsourced and YouTube videos confer zero notability unless they have been reported on in depth and with significant coverage in reliable sources. Theroadislong (talk) 18:05, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

19:58:40, 19 April 2021 review of draft by 173.188.130.24


173.188.130.24 (talk) 19:58, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@173.188.130.24: Wikipedia does not allow advertising. See WP:NPOV and WP:PEACOCK for more info. And please never copy texts from outside onto Wikipedia. Doing so is almost always a copyright violation. Victor Schmidt mobil (talk) 20:16, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

21:15:56, 19 April 2021 review of draft by Maaj01


After my first draft of this article had been declined I added multiple secondary, international sources. However, the article has again been declined, which I do understand, as a Youtuber might not be in the primary scope of Wikipedia. The subject is unfortunately not very well covered by sources such as newspapers, thus making it a challenge to for me to confirm the article.

However, I do find the subject notable, as the reach is severe and comparable to other Youtubers who have been covered in a Wikipedia article. What can I do to improve the article and my editing- and researching skills? Thank you in advance!

Maaj01 (talk) 21:15, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Maaj01 all you can do is to look for references. For a living person we have a high standard of referencing. Every substantive fact you assert, especially one that is susceptible to potential challenge, requires a citation with a reference that is about them, and is independent of them, and is in WP:RS, and is significant coverage. Please also see WP:PRIMARY which details the limited permitted usage of primary sources and WP:SELFPUB which has clear limitations on self published sources. Providing sufficient references, ideally one per fact cited, that meet these tough criteria is likely to make this draft a clear acceptance (0.9 probability). Lack of them or an inability to find them is likely to mean that the person is not suitable for inclusion, certainly today. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 21:54, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


Alright, loud and clear. Thank you for the help! I'll see if I can obtain more reliable sources and referencing. Have a good one! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maaj01 (talkcontribs) 07:22, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

22:08:47, 19 April 2021 review of submission by Pilotmichael

Pilotmichael (talk) 22:08, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


Help getting article approved. Why is the article being rejected in a matter of seconds? I made many changes from all the advise given, including changes from the person who rapidly rejected the article. Please help. I have met the Wikipedia criteria and have made all the changes suggested by everyone involved. Pilotmichael (talk) 22:08, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Pilotmichael as you have seen I nominated the draft for deletion before you submitted it for review. That discussion was already in train. I have rejected it for the same reasons in the deletion discussion, a discussion which you are wholly at liberty to comment in. You are advised to stick to policy based arguments since emotion almost never wins the day.
Why within seconds? I was looking at my watch list at the time you submitted it for review and it popped up as having been submitted. I rejected it because it is a blatant advert, and for completeness. Wikipedia is not a forum for you to promote your book. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 22:15, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Why did you nominate it for deletion? Seems I was submitting at the same time and you were nominating for deletion. Why do you want it deleted, especially when I made the changes that you suggested. I have made numerous changes. Did you read them? I made the changes you suggested. Why would you reject it when I made the changes you suggested? This is not blatant adverting. The books are notable, and they meet the the Wikipedia standards. I have provided these facts surrounding this book series, including that they have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. What more do you want? I and others have contributed to this article and have incorporated everything suggested. Pilotmichael (talk) 23:16, 19 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Pilotmichael I have returned to look at this draft several times and to study the edits you have made. I saw that it was becoming a more and more highly polished advert, and I nominated it for deletion because I saw no hope of this draft ever passing our criteria. As a an editor with a conflict of interest you are standing far too close to what I am certain is the book series you have authored and have stated you receive no compensation from to be able to write a neutral draft about it. It is possible that I am mistaken, so I have chosen to let the wider community decide. Wikipedia works on consensus.
You are entitled to contribute to the discussion, where your views will be heard and weighed by the editor, usually an administrator, who closes the discussion and implements the will of the community. As I have said before, you need to argue based upon policy, not upon emotion. A deletion discussion is a process taking a minimum of a set period of time, unless certain criteria for closing it more quickly are met. You have ample time to marshal your arguments. Please join the discussion.
Looking at your contributions since 29 June 2016, all of them have been geared towards promoting this book. That is a long time to be an editor here without editing any other article. It can be concluded that you are not here to build an encyclopaedia, but are here solely for your own ends, and that your account is being used solely for promotional purposes. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 05:11, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
For clarity, your first recorded edit here was 29 June 2016. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 05:47, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

April 20

00:12:54, 20 April 2021 review of submission by Vsk6-cs342

My submission has been denied twice because "my sources are not reliable." I genuinely just don't understand why my sources aren't reliable and I'm not sure what I can do to fix it. The sources I used were the only websites I could find that had biographical information about this person, and they seem like reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject to me.

Vsk6-cs342 (talk) 00:12, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Vsk6-cs342 yiu seem not to have understood fully the comments in the big pink decline boxes about references. You may find WP:42 a more digestible version. Each of the references you have chosen is an organisations "Flannel Panel" about Chapin, and is like provided by the person himself. These offerings often are. He owns the organisation that provided two of the faux references you have chosen. The book by Chapin is his work. His work can only be a reference in certain cases.
Let me try to explain. If they manufactured vacuum cleaners, the cleaners would be their work. A vacuum cleaner could not be a reference for them, simply because it is the product they make. So it is with research, writings, etc. However, a review of their work by others tends to be a review of them and their methods, so is a reference, as is a peer reviewed paper a reference for their work. FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 05:42, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

03:29:59, 20 April 2021 review of draft by Wikiboi77

I want to be published on Wikipedia, I feel that my accomplishments and my work are worthy of being published here. I'm not sure what needs to happen to make it truly worthy to the publishers and I would like some help in doing so.

Wikiboi77 03:29, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

05:04:19, 20 April 2021 review of submission by Wikiboi77

I feel that Dallas' confirmation to the UM Supreme Court is worthy of being published in Wikipedia. You published an article on the Chief of Dallas' tribe (Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians) yet you will not publish his article. We are a sovereign nation and when our people accomplish things like being the FIRST NATIVE AMERICAN to be appointed, confirmed and serve on the SUPREME COURT of such a Prestigious University like the University of Miami it is news to us and many other Native Americans across the nation. I feel that that is wikipedia worthy. He is making strides for Native American Youth and blazing trails for young natives to get educated and better themselves. His story deserves to be told. Let the world see what a brave and bright young man that Dallas J. Bennett is.Just because his story and his success is not AMERICAN national news it is CHEROKEE national news and NATIVE AMERICAN National News. What's so wrong with letting him have a page on Wikipedia. Please reconsider your decision and please publish this article. It's not gonna hurt anyone. The second reviewer said it IS NOT notable and I do not believe that, the 16,000 people who belong to Dallas' tribe would beg to differ as well. I presented 2 reliable and independent sources that cover Dallas. I also presented one of Dallas' published works as an Associate Justice. I also included a quote from Principal Chief Richard Sneed commending Dallas and his accomplishments. He was recognized by the Chief!! His accomplishments are historical fo both the EBCI and The University of Miami. Please Reconsider your decision, this is not fair to Dallas or the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. Wikiboi77 05:04, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Wikiboi77: this is not the place to tell that story. If others not connected to the subject write about it and it has a lasting effect that can be supported through reliable sources, then maybe an article can be written. What I would recommend instead of trying to tell us how great you are, try editing other articles and become familiar with more of the policies such as WP:AUTOBIO, WP:RS and WP:GNG. Other then that the draft has been rejected and will not be considered further. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 05:17, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

06:51:30, 20 April 2021 review of submission by JASWANT SINGH 07

hello author I'm writing for my company i got no payment in term to write article on my company. Why are you rejecting my article again and again please don't do it. JASWANT SINGH 07 (talk) 06:51, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

JASWANT SINGH 07 If you are writing about your company, you are a paid editor since the company compensates you with a salary. You do not have to be specifically paid for your edits. Your draft was rejected and then deleted, meaning it will not be considered further. Wikipedia is not a place for companies to tell the world about themselves; Wikipedia summarizes what independent reliable sources state about companies, showing how they meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company. Not every company merits a Wikipedia article. If you just want to tell the world about your company, you should use social media or its own website. 331dot (talk) 08:36, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
Note: I have blocked this editor for repeatedly creating this article at multiple locations. --Kinu t/c 08:38, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

07:22:15, 20 April 2021 review of draft by Serial33$


Serial33$ (talk) 07:22, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello, Sasha Yelaun is a producer (top billing) on multiple films. All of his supporting citations have sites linked with evidence and references. His name is also listed on several film titles in Wikipedia (we did not reference Wikipedia as instructed not to) The films included the Vanished , Monstrous, and River Runs Red. Please advise as I am his publicist attempting to get this approved and it is a noteworthy submission with many mentions available in top sources in the entertainment industry including Hollywood Reporter, Variety, etc.

Serial33$ If you are his publicist, you must review the paid editing policy to make a formal declaration; this is a Terms of Use requirement. You should also review conflict of interest. You also posted that you are him, so which is it?
Your sources are all press release type stories or mere announcements, which do not establish that this person meets the special Wikipedia definition of a notable creative professional. Please read Your First Article. 331dot (talk) 08:34, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

11:11:33, 20 April 2021 review of submission by MZatNgeeAnnAcademy

The draft was drafted factually, and opinions and adjectives were excluded, but it is deleted twice. And it was also drafted similarly to many of the higher education institutes' pages in wikipedia. Could you help me on refining the draft so that it is good for submission please? Thank you. MZatNgeeAnnAcademy (talk) 11:11, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi MZatNgeeAnnAcademy. The draft must have been much more biased than you think to have been speedily deleted twice as unambiguous advertising or promotion. Having a close connection to the topic is a huge handicap when trying to write about it objectively. If you insist on continuing with the topic, try writing a draft using only independent sources, such as [1][2][3].
Ngee Ann Academy will not own any Wikipedia article created about it, and will not be able to control its content. If you don't write about NAA being a choice of students who can't get into public universities, and about NAA graduates having a harder time than public university graduates finding full time employment, then someone else will. Carefully consider Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations and the essay "An article about yourself isn't necessarily a good thing", lest NAA come to regret that there's a Wikipedia article about them. --Worldbruce (talk) 12:26, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

11:44:15, 20 April 2021 review of submission by App09

App09 (talk) 11:44, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@App09 You do not ask any question - your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. CommanderWaterford (talk) 12:16, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Request on 17:28:37, 20 April 2021 for assistance on AfC submission by Danielsuarez00


Danielsuarez00 (talk) 17:28, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Danielsuarez00:, you didn't ask a question, so I will guess you just want more feedback. The first thing you should look through is WP:GNG and WP:DIRECTOR and decide which criteria of the inclusion policy they meet. Then read through WP:RS to see what we need for references to verify the claims in the article. Of the references in the draft currently they consist on 1 press release, 2 that are discussing a music video that don't mention the subject. The last is an interview and does not meet the WP:INDEPTH requirements of the general notability requirements. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 18:14, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

DRAFT:Sabine Kacunko

Hello, I would like to re-make an attempt for an Wikipedia article about an artist from June 2020: It was rejected and later deleted with arguments of notability and references. Before I waste my time again, I would like to ask whether an updated translation of an existing Wikipedia-article (German) of the same artist would be better way to proceed. As I can see, the German article is not really updated (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabine_Kacunko)... I have also checked mentioning of the artist in some other notable artists´ Wikipedia-articles (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ari_Benjamin_Meyers), so maybe this would be a more appropriate way instead of writing a new, more ambitious article? Thanks in advance for your feedback, and kind regards, Gimmeldal — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gimmeldal (talkcontribs) 18:21, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Gimmeldal To answer your question in short: No, it would be not more appropriate, the german article doesn't provide sufficient notability either. CommanderWaterford (talk) 14:00, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

19:31:52, 20 April 2021 review of submission by Inspiress

*I have not gotten any help asking this question over a day ago. Please help me!

My article was flagged "reads like an advertisement". I have gathered evidence from all independent sources and many reliable sources and have written the article from a neutral point of view, I do not understand why my article is marked as "reads like advertisement".

I am not advertising anything in the article, and I am totally independent of this person I am writing about. I need help to revise the article so it doesn't sound like an ad, such as where I should reword, what I should add more, etc. This is a polite ask for help based on the review. I would appreciate it if any experienced editor can help me point out what I should change.

Thank you so much!

  • Note: I have gathered as much information about the person I am writing on as possible. As far as providing further detail on any topic, I am unable to gather more details about her.

Inspiress (talk) 19:31, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

I replied to this above so I will simply cut and paste the same text here. I can see why this was declined. There is a lot of WP:PUFFERY in the draft. Things like "She is known as the pioneer of Eldercare" Says who? Just her? The Career section is completely unreferenced and reads like that of a Resume/CV which is also a form of advertising. This is not neutral or stated by any source. Using her own articles as references to prove she wrote for certain publications is a form of WP:OR and can be considered advertising. Even listing each and every publication is a form of advertising, we generally don't care about newspaper or magazine articles they write unless they have made a major impact in her career. Listing highly cited academic writings may also be acceptable. This is the things I noticed from a precursory scan. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 19:48, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

22:26:46, 20 April 2021 review of submission by Abdullah Shawon

Abdullah Shawon (talk) 22:26, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

@Abdullah Shawon: You didn't ask a question the draft is flagged for deletion, and rejected it will not be considered further. This may help Wikipedia is not a social network as per WP:NOTSOCIALNETWORK. McMatter (talk)/(contrib) 22:39, 20 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

April 21

02:35:59, 21 April 2021 review of submission by 210.212.1.92

THINKTUB INTERACTIVES OPC PRIVATE LIMITED IS A REGISTERED INDIAN STARTUP WHO PLEDGE THE UTILIZATION OF AI AND BLOCKCHAIN. IT AN OFFICIALLY REGISTERED UNDER INDIAN COMPANIES ACT 2013. ITS OFFICIAL WEBSITE IS https://www.thinktub.live/ 210.212.1.92 (talk) 02:35, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi Thinktubopc. Please don't write in ALL CAPS, it may be considered shouting. Given the general sanctions on all pages with content related to blockchain and cryptocurrencies, broadly construed, Draft:ThinkTub Interactives (OPC) Private Limited is about as hopeless a topic as it's possible to imagine. However, if you can add at least three independent, reliable, secondary sources containing significant coverage of it - ones not excluded by elements of WP:NCORP - then you may submit the draft for review. The current backlog is about 5 months. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:11, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

03:44:30, 21 April 2021 review of submission by JSJS 22

JSJS 22 (talk) 03:44, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:King_Street_Sounds

I took away all the advice made by Dan arndt, but still cannot be reviewed again by anyone. How can I get this reviewed?

Hi JSJS 22. The draft has been in the pool to be reviewed for 2 months. The current backlog is 5 months. There are millions of ways to improve Wikipedia while you wait. Check out the Wikipedia:Task Center if you aren't sure where to start. --Worldbruce (talk) 03:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

03:59:57, 21 April 2021 review of submission by Darzubair

This person is notable professional football coach from india, google searches also available. Why are you rejecting it.plz help. Darzubair (talk) 03:59, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi Darzubair. Saying that Dar is notable doesn't make it true. The draft has been declined twice and finally rejected because, as one reviewer said, Dar "has not played or managed at the fully professional level (being an assistant coach at a professional football club is not a notable position, neither is being the head coach at a football academy)". You have repeatedly failed to show how you think he meets the notability criteria. Now you're effectively out of the game, having been shown a yellow card, and then a red card. Reviewers don't intend to consider the draft again, but there are millions of Wikipedia pages unrelated to Dar that you're welcome to edit. --Worldbruce (talk) 04:39, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

04:57:04, 21 April 2021 review of draft by Rjmjrjm


Is there a time format template for "1 pm"? Example: At Template:Hour formatter the mob entered Jacksonville

Russ Marsh 04:57, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hi Rjmjrjm. I'm not aware of a template for that. There are, however, Manual of Style guidelines for how to format times at MOS:TIME. --Worldbruce (talk) 17:42, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

08:30:05, 21 April 2021 review of draft by Rachwoo

Hi, where can I update the url below from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jiang_Lu_Xia

to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Jiang_Luxia

I would like to standardized the name of chinese actor by merging the middle names together without spaces.

Thank you.

Rachwoo (talk) 08:30, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Done. Looks better than 99% of all submissions. Not only have I moved the Draft, I will also publish to mainspace.Naraht (talk) 13:11, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

10:15:14, 21 April 2021 review of submission by Xicomaia

Xicomaia (talk) 10:15, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Xicomaia You don't ask a question, but your draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 10:24, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Hello everyone! It's my first page here on Wikipedia, so I'm sorry if something is not properly done! If possible I would like to know why this was rejected. Thank you very much! Xicomaia (talk) 10:32, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Xicomaia Your draft was rejected because it appears that this company does not meet the special Wikipedia definition of a notable company, as shown with significant coverage in independent reliable sources that have chosen on their own to write about the company(i.e. no press releases or announcements of routine business). The draft needs to do more than confirm the existence of the company. Please review Your First Article.
If you work for this company, please review conflict of interest and paid editing for information on required formal disclosures. Please put further comments in this existing section, instead of creating additional sections. 331dot (talk) 10:36, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply
Hello! First of all I would like to thank you for answer. I do not work for this company, nor am I affiliated with it. I just like what they do and I am a fan of their work, in this case, their well-known Farming Simulator game series. It's true we can't find much about the company itself, but we can find lots of articles about their Farming Simulator games. Thank you for your help! Xicomaia (talk) 11:28, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

10:26:00, 21 April 2021 review of submission by 117.201.155.216

117.201.155.216 (talk) 10:26, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

You don't ask a question, but the draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. 331dot (talk) 10:28, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

13:18:58, 21 April 2021 review of submission by Ghaynes19

Added additional information relating this former mill site to the cedar creek superfund site. Ghaynes19 (talk) 13:18, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Ghaynes19 The draft was rejected, meaning that it will not be considered further. No amount of editing can confer notability on the subject. 331dot (talk) 13:23, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

14:56:43, 21 April 2021 review of submission by Evgeniy Akimbaev

Hello everyone! I want to ask why my draft rejected? As an example, I used this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_P-06. But the only conceptual difference I see - my draft has straight links to some developer's socials, which by the way is also the main social platforms for the game itself. Will everything be fine if I delete these links or I need to fix something else? Evgeniy Akimbaev (talk) 14:56, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

Evgeniy Akimbaev The draft tells about the existence of the game and its plot, but not much else. The draft needs to summarize what independent reliable sources state about the game. You have some links to what seem to be articles that potentially discuss the game, but don't otherwise mention them. The example article you cite(which isn't always a good thing to do) does discuss what independent reliable sources say about the game.
If you are associated with this game, please review conflict of interest. 331dot (talk) 15:11, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

17:09:03, 21 April 2021 review of submission by NotAbleToBeAEditor

NotAbleToBeAEditor (talk) 17:09, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

NotAbleToBeAEditor (talk) 17:09, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Look, i wanted to create that page because Acrello is verified!Reply
As far as I am aware, having a verified TikTok account confers zero notability. Theroadislong (talk) 17:21, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply

18:39:48, 21 April 2021 review of submission by Sussyboi420

Sussyboi420 (talk) 18:39, 21 April 2021 (UTC)Reply


How Can I make this so the submisison gets accepted?