Talk:Maslow's hierarchy of needs

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Motivational Theory

There has been a lot of argument as to the credibility or lack thereof, for this theory. However although unintended for management theories for motivation by Maslow; in practical terms if there is a manager with a small team of deflated workers, it's a little start, a 'so basic it might just help' theory that when a manager, whose head is full of figures and responsibilities that are so far away from the likes of arguments of principals and credibilities or science versus pyscho-babble, that when that manager thinks yes that might help! I'll put a drinks vendor in the office, or i'll put a security light up just by the exit where some workers stand at night waiting to be picked up, or lets have one to ones to address peoples goals, then that is when something as incorrect or not may just make that bit of a difference to peoples spirits, maybe even just for one day, but it could just add a bit of warmth to a usually cold, mundane place. That in that sense may just turn out to be more important to those people than even whether the earth go round the sun. On that day at least!

I apologize if I'm completely missing something here, but I wonder, how is the Energy Hierarchy article link relevant in the "See also" section of an article about Maslow's theory of hierarchy of needs?

Maslow never drew a pyramid

According to psychologist Scott Barry Kaufman (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scott_Barry_Kaufman) and author of Transcend when interviewed by Robert Wright on meaningoflive.tv, there are some misconceptions. Each level of needs is not required to move on to the next level. Kaufman even makes a video game reference here. Also, Maslow never drew a pyramid. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7A98zPnaYDg no — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FEA8:3C9F:1D00:84CB:FFE8:FEA6:6CC0 (talk) 02:01, 4 March 2021 (UTC)Reply

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Blackfoot connection

I've moved the following claim to the talk page until it can be better sourced/clarified:

Maslow's idea may have been informed by his work with Blackfeet Nation through conversations with elders and inspiration from the shape and meaning of the Blackfoot tipi, although Maslow never conceptualized his work as a pyramid. There has been no evidence that Maslow stole or borrowed ideas from the Blackfeet from his hierarchy of needs despite popular claims that Maslow misrepresented the Blackfoot worldview. The Blackfoot worldview places self-actualization as a basis for community-actualization and community-actualization as a basis for cultural perpetuity, the latter of which exists at the top of the tipi in Blackfoot philosophy.

Source is self-help book American Awakening: Eight Principles to Restore the Soul of America, but the actual genesis of this theory comes from a misintepretation of the work of Dr. Cindy Blackstock. To give a brief timeline of the confusion: In 1938, Maslow visited the Blackfoot nation - that's all we know. In 2005, Ryan Heavy Head of Red Crow Community College speculates how Maslow may have been influenced by Blackfoot beliefs. He makes some circumstantial connections, and theorizes that Maslow may have been influenced by tipis (probably erroneous as Maslow didn't come up with the pyramid shape), but makes no direct claims. Later, Terry Cross would use Maslow's pyramid as an example to build the "relational worldview" model of indigineous welfare. He makes no connection between Maslow and Blackfoot philosophy. Dr. Blackstock expands on Cross' work to build a brand new 'Heirarchy of Needs (informed by Blackfoot Nation)'. As far as I know, she makes no claim that this is a historic model or that Maslow directly used these ideas. In fact, she acknowledges that her model is based on Cross, which was based on Maslow.

So in short, there is no reliable source claiming Maslow directly borrowed any of his heirarchy from the Blackfoot tribe, although I do think it's fair to say he may have been influenced. As such, I recommend we strip down everything in this section speculating about tipis and the arrangment of the Blackfoot pyramid (which is a 21st century invention of Dr. Blackstock's BOL theory), and just say "Maslow's work may have been informed by time he spent with the Blackfeet Nation", using Blackstock's paper as the source. Thoughts? 2600:8800:2397:700:15BB:67A:4D84:91B (talk) 07:28, 28 April 2021 (UTC)Reply