User talk:Glen/Archive35
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Baseless warnings and personal attacks
Hi, I have recieved a final warning from User:culverin for allegedly "trolling and pushing racist extreme POV on wikipeida" [[1]]. Culverin has refused to substantiate this warning which I see is a personal attack on me. As you have had dealings with this user in the past, I would like to ask what I should do when subject to groundless warnings? Or do you think that I am out of line here? Thanks Abu ali 16:22, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
I recently read this from a talk page: 'So get off your computer and onto the streets. Organize the people around you. The Zionists can censor anything you write here. But they can not close they eyes of those who you have taught to see what is really happening around them. And the battle between the oppressors and the oppressed will not be decided online, but offline. Zionists may outnumber us in Wikipedia. But on the ground in the Middle East we outnumber them by a long long way. Abu ali 10:24, 19 December 2006 (UTC)'
- Sorry for my late reply. (I have been very busy). This is the message that came to me attention. User:Brilliance came to me telling me of the the POV comment made. I then visited his talk page where I saw I was not the only one in the past that had warned him for his extreme POV. Regardless of context of this comment and others were used in, in my opinion these comments are unacceptable on wikipedia. Wikipedia is a encyclopedia, not a medium for extremists to express their ideas. Especially at the current time with trouble in the middle east. opinions like this one are far to controversial and offensive at the current time. I felt that Abu needed a stern warning to try make him stop extreme POV push. Regardless of the context we cannot tolerate this! I am sorry If I got to angry and slightly uncivil but comments like these really sadden me. I propose an apology from both sides of this argument and a promise from Abu not to say things like that again on wikipedia, Anywhere else but here.
- I would also like to take this time to ask Abu to refrain from making unfounded sock puppetry attacks against User:Brilliance. Just so you know in no way are talk pages supposed to be priviate. Hope this can be sorted out. Cheers. Culverin? Talk 00:31, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Glen, Just for the record, Culverin has refused to substantiate his accusatins of racism against me. The diff he provided from another users private talk page provides no evidence whatsoever of "trolling and pushing racist extreme POV on wikipeida". culverin does not like my politics and that is his right. But he would be wise not accuse me of saying things that I did not say. And I did not attack Brilliance for sockpuppetry, I merely enquired whether he was a sockpuppet as he showed a high level of experience of WP for a new user and it was unclear how he happened to stumble on a remark I made to another user on her private talk page. Enjoy your holiday. We will no doubt speak when you return. Abu ali 09:50, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hello Glen, this is Brilliance and as you know I am the one who read the odd message left by Abu ali. I understand that the message I left about this comment was a little more than was needed and I would be fine with this situation if Abu Ali would simply cross out his message. But, I recently saw the warning that Abu Ali gave me on my talk page. He has absolutely no authorization to give me a warning. I did nothing wrong and I did not commit a "personal attack". It is a baseless warning coming from the one who commited the crime. This warning should be removed as it did not come from a neutral side. It would be appreciated if Abu ali would remove it. Thank you. Brilliance 23:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC).
- There is no wikipedia policy that indicates you are required to leave warnings on your talk page - especially if they are "made up" or added without assuming good faith. You can simply revert it yourself. Also since Glen is away on vacation, you may want to involve an admin by making your case on the WP:ANI noticeboard if you think this needs further investigation. Just my 2 cents. Yankees76 00:05, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- I've commented on this on Brilliance's talk page. Note, that comparing someone to an Islamic dictator, making unfounded claims that they condone suicide bombings, and that they have a goal to kill millions of people is a serious violation of NPA. Remember, AGF says users should assume good faith unless there is evidence to the contrary. Brilliance's comment on Abu ali's talk page, and his refusal to back down on it is pretty strong evidence that they are not acting in good faith. If Brilliance does not head Abu ali's warning, then they will get blocked in future. Chovain(t|c) 00:37, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- Most definitely. I was hoping to put out a fire before it started by letting the user know that if he/she doesn't want their warnings for all to see, they may remove them, as an admin can still view them later on if needed. I've found many new users feel that unless a warning is given by an admin then it's not valid, and they're also concerned that it makes them appar guilty later on when other editors visit their talk page. Removing it is a 'legal' option that perhaps helps them start anew, provided it's done civily. Yankees76 06:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- Although this user unfortunately still doesn't seem to think they did anything wrong to begin with. Chovain(t|c) 07:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- I have removed my message. I except the warning to be removed. I shall return on Monday the 22nd. Brilliance 16:24, 20 January 2007 (UTC).
- Although this user unfortunately still doesn't seem to think they did anything wrong to begin with. Chovain(t|c) 07:09, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- Most definitely. I was hoping to put out a fire before it started by letting the user know that if he/she doesn't want their warnings for all to see, they may remove them, as an admin can still view them later on if needed. I've found many new users feel that unless a warning is given by an admin then it's not valid, and they're also concerned that it makes them appar guilty later on when other editors visit their talk page. Removing it is a 'legal' option that perhaps helps them start anew, provided it's done civily. Yankees76 06:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
- Hello Glen, this is Brilliance and as you know I am the one who read the odd message left by Abu ali. I understand that the message I left about this comment was a little more than was needed and I would be fine with this situation if Abu Ali would simply cross out his message. But, I recently saw the warning that Abu Ali gave me on my talk page. He has absolutely no authorization to give me a warning. I did nothing wrong and I did not commit a "personal attack". It is a baseless warning coming from the one who commited the crime. This warning should be removed as it did not come from a neutral side. It would be appreciated if Abu ali would remove it. Thank you. Brilliance 23:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC).
edit on November 20, 2006
i received a warning about inserting spam on November 20, 2006. Could you please highlight to me what is the spam that you are referring to. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vink33 (talk • contribs) 01:11, 21 January 2007 (UTC).
signature info
I have noticed that many people have textually formated sigs, often with many colours, frames or fonts, or even with a WingDing or two added (which is not in their username) What I wanted to know is, how do you do that? I see that your talk page has the same sort of frame that your signame has, but is that related or have you just edited both separately? thank you for your reply, --ZaphodBeeblebrox 14:56, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
Licensing for Image:VandalProof Mod icon.jpg
Hi Glen. I stumbled across Image:VandalProof Mod icon.jpg, which you uploaded. You've tagged it with a fair use tag ({{windows-software-screenshot}}) - but based on your summary comments, I think you intended it to be free use. Could you consider either finding another license or specifying that fair use is your intent (meaning that it is inapplicable for all its current uses)? Thanks. Picaroon 23:37, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
For you :)
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- Hope you don't mind ;). Arjun 02:29, 22 January 2007 (UTC)