User talk:Peterkingiron/Archive 3
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Nice edits to Blast furnace, by the way :-) JackyR 01:24, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
It is really worth reading WP:NOR, WP:V and WP:NPOV along with their guidelines they really help sort the wheat from the chaff. Unfortunately in this case some wheat had to be thrown away because it was not sourced. If you disagree with the 3 policies you can always change them, as just like any other Wikipedia page they can be edited by anyone. The article Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias also makes an interesting read. BTW controversy is often part of Wikipedia see for example Atomic bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki#Debate over the bombings. --Philip Baird Shearer 09:29, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
Town and Country Planning in the United Kingdom
Hi, I've written a response to your comments relating to the renaming Category:United Kingdom planning law if you'd care to comment. Regards --Mcginnly 11:22, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
I have had to remove copyright violations by User: George cowie and in doing so have removed some of your contribution to the above article for which I apologise. Jooler 11:31, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the post to my talk page. I was going to send you an emial but you have not enabled your email in this system. If you do enable it the person sending you an email will not be able to see your email address unless you reply to their email.
Your comment on "The correct place for unpublished results is in printed journals" made me think that you might be able to place some of your unpublished results on a wikipedia sister site. Perhapse you should have a gander at the article on wikipedia called Wikinfo, and the Wikinfo:Main Page. --Philip Baird Shearer 18:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Baron Dudley
Your info about Baron Dudley may well be correct. The article was started by a user who had a reputation for introducing badly-researched work into wikipedia, and I spent much of my time following him/her around trying to clear up messes. Probably all I did in this case was wikify the article and/or try to make sense of what she'd written. So please do carry on. Deb 13:04, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Having looked at it, I can see why it seemed like I'd written it, but I suspect what I actually did was to move it from another article she had written. There is never any need to worry about deleting stuff from an article, because it still exists in the old versions of the article and can always be restored if necessary. Deb 16:57, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
Vote
You didn't write Delete or Keep in your vote. Please do so to clarify your vote of the article; see its talk page and a previous 3-month old deletion page. Georgia guy 00:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Steel
It's probably worth including some sort of steel chart in this article, or at least a list of the metals commonly alloyed into stel and their effects upon it (Nickel for toughness, Molybdenum for hardenability and high-temp strength, manganese for wear resistance but with the neg effect of lower plasticity, etc.). I'm not sure how to fit it into the article in it's current form, and you most likely know more about the topic than I do anyway, so I'm leaving it to you. If you need a chart of the types and composition or the effects of some metals I'll lend a hand there, you've just been editing it recently and have more related knowledge, and I am loathe to screw up the flow of such a well-written article. Let me know what you think. Daemon8666 18:41, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
Over-wrought
Hi, apologies for delay in replying. Yes, I agree completely that the material would be better at puddling furnace, although alas I'm not a specialist, just an Industrial Revolution enthusiast. And I'm trying really hard to stick to my backlist at the moment, so afraid I'm not offering to help here. But there's a useful template for this sort of cross-referencing: {{main|Article}}, which appears as
and is usually placed immediately after a sub-head (see: Ancient Egypt). This helps inattentive readers considerably, as people are apt to skim an article and think something isn't covered.
Meanwhile, here's a task from my backlist JackyR | Talk 23:24, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
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The Technology Barnstar | |
| I, JackyR, award you this barnstar for substantial, top-quality work on articles about the Industrial Revolution, and for helping to make Wikipedia a coherent, usable source, not just a random collection of information. |
Ashtapradhan
Hi, you have voted "might be kept" here. I have expanded it considerably. Could you please consider changing your vote to keep? Thanks in advance, --Gurubrahma 14:42, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
Town and country planning in the united kingdom 2
I've created categories and subcategories, pretty much as your suggrstions for Category:Town and country planning in the United Kingdom. We'll need to recategorise the articles into the 3 categories which will be - UK planning law, UK planning policy, UK planning interested parties. By the way - we've recently started the wikiproject - Wikipedia:WikiProject Urban studies and planning if you'd like to join or know anyone who does, we need the numbers.--Mcginnly 00:32, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
Planning stub
I've also proposed a stub called {{planning-stub}}.You can support it's creation here - Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/2006/June#.7B.7Bplanning-stub.7D.7D_.2F_Category:Urban_studies_and_planning. --Mcginnly 09:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
"Vandalism"
Please don't accuse me of vandalism, everyone makes mistakes. I mustn't have been paying enough attention, vandals are people who purposely try to wreck articles, I did it by accident. Lcarsdata (Talk) 20:00, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
- You said that what I did was "unintentional vandalism", the comment is still on my talk page, but I have acted a bit harsh, lets just leave it and get on with writing an encycolpedia. :) Lcarsdata (Talk) 15:58, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
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Templates similar to the places in Bedfordshire template
Hi - I noticed your query at user talk:Lcarsdata about other templates similar to Template:Places in Bedfordshire. I created the Bedfordshire one, and could fairly easily create others. Are there any in particular that you have in mind? -- Rick Block (talk) 02:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
Early Iron (bloomery / smelting)
Dear Peter King
I post my contribution to the discussion on the bloomery entry here:
There is indeed a strong desire to see references for the earliest history of iron as described here! I am fully aware that this is a minefield of opinions rather than 'hard' facts, but I would argue that, as stated in the smelting bit, there is a very significant absence of evidence for early production (i.e. not artefacts, but production remains such as slag, furnaces etc.).
Therefore, rather blunt (my opinion..) observations such as Iron appears to have been smelted in the west as early as 3000 BC, but bronze smiths, not being familiar with iron, did not put it to use until much later., certainly not indicated by reliable evidence, should not be made.
The second statement: In the west, iron began to be used around 1200 BC, presumably as a replacement for bronze, which was becoming harder to come by due to shortages in copper and tin is even 'worse'. This idea was proposed (by Snodgrass) in the 1970's, and although an attractive idea, is certainly no longer the 'majority view', if not dismissed altogether. Whereas tin may have become somewhat scarcer, copper certainly did not, and the continued presence of bronze artefacts during the 'coming of the age of iron' clearly shows that this was not the (prime) reason for using iron. More likely, or at least a more important factor, may have been the improvement of (secondary) smithing techniques, leading to iron being preferred for more and more types of artefacts.
Anyway, can go on for hours, perhaps we can discuss more before changing the entry? As all things iron are so 'hotly' debated, I did not want to arrogantly change the text to reflect my opinions.. And as you indicate below, you thought the smelting bit could be placed here as well. Perhaps we could craft a text that discusses and reflects different possibilities?
x@x 14:20, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
Your Issues with the Lead article
I have added two new sections to lead that, I think, address the issues you cited as unaddressed back in April of this year. Have a look and feel free to send me any feedback on the additions. Karlhahn 20:38, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
- I wrote the "Processing" section based upon a single source -- the Samans book, which is the only book in my personal library on general metallurgy (and it is pretty dated). My contribution is only a summary sketch of what's in the book on the topic of smelting and purifying lead. The book has flow charts, diagrams of various apparatus, and plenty of chemical equations, as well as much more detail of the processes in the text. I'm not sure how much detail is appropriate in a Wikipedia article. And without a second source, I am hesitant to add more. But if you have other source material at your fingertips, by all means expand on what I've written when and if you can spare the time. Karlhahn 04:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
Further update on Lead
Prompted by your most recent comment in talk:Lead, I did some poking around and found a more recent reference (on line, no less) for the use of blast furnaces to smelt lead. The reference is the website of Lead Development Association International. Please see Primary Extraction of Lead Tech Notes. I have added this reference to the article, along with another one from the same source on lead refining. Karl Hahn (T) (C) 18:04, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
Royton and Cotton mills
Hi! Thanks for the contact.
I'm not claiming anything to be quite honest! I was just adding verifiable content to the article, and that shouldn't really have been blanketed out in this way.
I think you misunderstand that a cotton mill doesn't necessarily have to be powered and kitted out with all the relivant inventions synonymous with those factories. I understand that the first cotton mill at Royton was the first warehouse/factory building which cotton was spun on a large scale, as opposed to the more archaic cottage industry, or the later styles of mill.
Royton is significant as a cotton mill town (I should add I don't and have never lived there). First mill aside, it was one of the most productive, and the last place in Britain where a cotton mill was built. I think it is worth a mention if not in the first paragraph, then somewhere in the lead. Jhamez84 17:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
- I should also add that www.spinningtheweb.org.uk is one of the most comprehensive sources on the Textile industry online. The newspapers (some of which serve different towns) are just additional sources to back the claim. Jhamez84 17:35, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
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