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File upload for regular users is hosed -- some kind of database error related to the upload log. I suspect the bot, as most of the entries in the log are from it. Can you check please? -- ESP 19:05 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Bots always have an interesting way of finding bugs in the wikipedia software. Anyway I just wanted to make a mention that my personal internet connection has been having some trouble, but as soon as all of the pictures are done being uploaded I'll start modifying all the articles and adding in the pictures. It should be really easy and not take too long. I wonder though if the naming for all the articles will be correct. I guess we will see. -- Ram-Man 22:38 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I will be shocked and astounded if all of the filenames are correct :-) User:Hephaestos has gone through many of the states manually and added the counties, and has pointed out several mistakes to me; I don't know how far he has gotten, though. -- Wapcaplet 00:03 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)

All the pictures I have to date are now uploaded. See Wikipedia:WikiProject_U.S._Counties/checklist for the list. Note that one of the files in that checklist has a space in its name, but the actual uploaded version has that space changed to an underscore. This shouldn't make any difference with normsl Wiki links, though. -- The Anomebot 22:59 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)

I just need to do Georgia, and re-do Florida (had some problems with the source, since it was a Jpeg), and will be e-mailing them to James F. in a day or so. I'll let you know when they're ready for download. -- Wapcaplet 00:03 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)

The rest of the counties are done, and placed in the same website directory as before. -- Wapcaplet 11:03 22 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Also, I can't recall if I mentioned; there are a bunch of "Map of USA highlighting (STATE)" images in the same directory; if you could please grab and upload those too, I'd appreciate it. Thanks! -- Wapcaplet 01:25 24 Jul 2003 (UTC)

OK, I've grabbed what I hope are the correct files (including the new USA maps), and I will upload them tomorrow. -- The Anome 08:00 24 Jul 2003 (UTC)

So, I just want to say, the county images look superfantastic. What an excellent addition. -- ESP 06:38 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)


Hi Anome,

In March 2002, you added a link "see also: Maximum entropy method" to the article Likelihood. Since then, the article Principle of maximum entropy has been written, but it doesn't have a lot to do with likelihood. I'm not sure what information you thought should relate maximum entropy to likelihood, so I'm hoping you will add the appropriate material.

Cyan 21:02 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)


I point you to the words "Rather than actually carry out, and possibly have to repeat, the rather long random experiment, our protagonist decides to simply calculate and use the most probable result." Now, does that mean likelihood, Bayesian probability, or frequentist probability? I think it means likelihood. -- The Anome 22:20 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Also see

-- The Anome

A bit more research shows that this is heavy-duty stuff beyond my current mathematical competence, where even experts in the field disagree. Nevertheless, there are clear signs that they are considered to be either related or equivalent in the limit by numerous mathematicians. Any real mathematicians in the house? -- The Anome 22:44 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Sorry for the lateness of my reply: I forgot to put this page on my watchlist. I was hoping you were a real mathematician.
On another topic - the sentence you've cited above does not indicate the use of maximum likelihood: in maximum likelihood, you're given a sample from a distribution with unknown parameters and you calculate the values of the parameters which make your sample have the highest probability. In the above sentence, you're given the distribution with known parameters, and instead of actually sampling, you calculate the most likely sample. It's similar, but different. Cyan 04:56, 6 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Where are the states such as Alabama in the county pictures? Just curious. Maybe you just havn't gotten there. I have been running the bot and it found a few states that were missing. It should be noted that all of the california counties already have pictures. I suppose we should just keep what we have and not use the ones you uploaded? I am not sure what to do about those. -- Ram-Man 01:31 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)

No idea about the state of the bot, but the idea was that we would implement the maps for all counties of all states, for consistency's sake. The images currently there, though better than nothing, are somewhat... oddly coloured.
James F. 07:15 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I'm on it; I missed some maps last time. The Alabama maps and some more are being uploaded now. -- The Anome 14:37 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)
OK, stopping for tonight, will resume tomorrow. I have updated the checklist to include all the current state/county map candidates for upload. -- The Anomebot 22:08 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Hi Anome, I've written a thing that IMO needs some review. As you have often gotten involved with medicine-related topics, I thought it might help if you looked it over? I would be most grateful. Kosebamse 13:17 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)


I've noticed some states (California and Delaware specifically, but there may be others) already have county maps, and they're quite good. Should we leave the status quo there, do you think? - Hephaestos 21:32 27 Jul 2003 (UTC)



Anomebot status:

  • Uploading resumed. Currently working through Kansas. -- The Anome 10:35 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)
  • Now working through Louisiana. -- The Anome 12:58 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)
  • Massachusetts! -- The Anome 14:16 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)
  • Missouri. -- The Anome 17:20 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)
  • Montana. -- The Anome 21:05 17 Jul 2003 (UTC)
  • Restarting... still on Montana. -- The Anomebot 11:19 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)
  • Stopped, most of the way through Oklahoma now. The Anome 22:03 18 Jul 2003 (UTC)
  • Restarted. -- The Anomebot 06:38 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)
  • Finished this batch. -- The Anomebot 23:00 19 Jul 2003 (UTC)
  • Now uploading last 3 states: Tennessee / Virginia / West Virginia. -- The Anomebot 06:47, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)
  • Done! -- The Anome 22:08, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Is this the right way to reply to you? You suggested merging the page on causes of sexual identity with the article on sex. People watching the Homosexuality article, to which it was originally linked, did not like it and plan to get it deleted. I put in the link because the homosexuality article makes mention of three different ideas about causation, but doesn't bring them together in any coherent way. The result is that the reader gets 3 competing explanations with no idea of what is going on. Today someone took out my link and substituted a link to causes of sexual orientation, which is a pretty good discussion. I think that the materials in the page I wrote summarize a burgeoning attempt to take this subject out of the realm of dogma and ideology and into the realm of science. I would need to substitute "sexual individuation" for "sexual identity." Any advice? Thanks.

Patrick0Moran 22:35, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)


Hi, could we talk about your capitilisation changes before you carry on? (Perhaps at talk:list of dog breeds, the subject has been raised there before) The "dog" is part of the full name of the breed German Shepherd Dog and is almost universally capitalised: [1], [2], [3], [4], [5], [6] etc. etc. Anyway - I didn't want to just revert but do feel this is a strong case for capitilisation of the title (as are similar dog breed names). Regards -- sannse 16:36, 31 Jul 2003 (UTC)


My bad. I didn't realise that this was the consensus. I'll undo my changes. -- The Anome 16:41, 31 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Thanks :) -- sannse

Hi,

I am a new user and I see that you have changed my page title from 'Indian Writing in English' to 'Indian writing in English'. The former is the accepted convention I think. I also have written a page for'Indian architecture' which just existed as a link. I feel that the page should be titled 'Indian Architecture'- again that's how I think the convention goes and how people search on the net. Could you please tell me how to do it, or would you do it?

Hello, new user, and welcome to Wikipedia! I made the change to follow the Wikipedia:naming conventions for articles. Generally, the rule is not to use capitals except where absolutely required (proper nouns, names). You need to create a user account (see the "log in" button at top right) before you can use the "move page" features. -- The Anome 17:49 25 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Thanks for the clarification. Sorry I used the top of page- when I tried to edit the page at the bottom, it stopped somewhere in between -- KRS

I re-uploaded Image:Map_of_Pennsylvania_highlighting_Allegeheny_County.png at Image:Map_of_Pennsylvania_highlighting_Allegheny_County.png (there was an extra e in Allegheny). Just thought you'd like to know.. -- Notheruser 23:58, 31 Jul 2003 (UTC)


Dear Anome, i've noticed that you "catch" lots of copyvios. This one Tetracyclic antidepressant looks a bit suspicious. I'm not sure how to check if it's a copyvio or not. Perhaps you could explain your hunting method. Cheers, Muriel Gottrop 13:06, 2 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Hello, Muriel. Here's my guide to spotting copyvios --
  • they tend to have give-away phrases like "this booklet" in them
  • they may also have words or phrases on their own such as "top", "go to top", "next page", that were originally part of the HTML structure of the original site
  • they often still contain the original site's copyright notice, copied intact!
  • they are typically not wikified
  • they are typically submitted all at once in finished form, rather than "growing" in stages with multiple users editing
Most of all, you can spot them by highlighting a sentence or non-trivial sentence fragment that is unlikely to be found by chance in many documents, cutting and pasting it into Google, and searching for it (the Mozilla browser is good if you do this often)
Regards, The Anome 13:42, 2 Aug 2003 (UTC)

Re: Self-publishing (better?). I'd feel better if the thing had more examples than just AK Press, for self-publishers that became publishing businesses. Quite a plug for one outfit. Then again, the article's not supposed to be about self-publishers who succeeded in the publishing business, and that'd just make the section longer. If it were up to me I'd delete the whole paragraph, and merge the last sentence with the preceding. Yeah well, vanity presses need the work.

What's driving this need to put in "positives" about self-publishing, is what Sol Stein called (in How to Grow a Novel) the "dope of hope." All writers suffer from it. But some Wikipedia users don't want the bubble of their belief -- that self-publishing can take the place of talent and hard work -- to burst. It's that simple.ô¿ô 02:21, Aug 4, 2003 (UTC)

Moving a page...

Did I move Arthur Travers Harris the wrong way? I found it also a little bit clubsy, but it worked, I thought... Pascal 14:56, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)


Just use the "move this page" button in the sidebar, and that should do it for you. Cut-and-paste moving loses the edit history. -- The Anome 15:00, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)