Archived talk: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 (a goodbye special).
Rehi.
- Welcome back to the fray. :-) Evercat 17:57, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- It was a pleasant surprise to see "Morwen" appear on my watchlist this evening. --rbrwr± 20:03, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Back again. I'm overjoyed. I had a feeling you would't be able to resist. I can sympathise with your reasons for leaving, I can get a bit addicted myself, I had a break from the WP myself.
BTW whilst you were away, we had another outbreak of 80.255's traditional counties silliness at Shipston-on-Stour, and I made an explanatory note at the counties policy. All the other people who voted for the policy OK'd it at my talk page, I hope you approve. I also did some work at Metropolitan county. Cheers G-Man 20:19, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Nice to see ya back here again. —Morven 00:43, Nov 20, 2004 (UTC)
Glad to see you return; hope all is well. [[User:Rhymeless|Rhymeless | (Methyl Remiss)]] 06:36, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Great to see you back - I look forward to editing alongside you again! Warofdreams 17:22, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)
I was very pleased to note your name had disappeared from WP:Missing Wikipedians -- I hope you're back to stay. :-) Best wishes, Jwrosenzweig 23:07, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Article Licensing
Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public ___domain if they prefer. The CC-by-sa license is a true free documentation license that is similar to Wikipedia's license, the GFDL, but it allows other projects, such as WikiTravel, to use our articles. Since you are among the top 1000 Wikipedians by edits, I was wondering if you would be willing to multi-license all of your contributions or at minimum those on the geographic articles. Over 90% of people asked have agreed. For More Information:
- Multi-Licensing FAQ - Lots of questions answered
- Multi-Licensing Guide
- Free the Rambot Articles Project
To allow us to track those users who muli-license their contributions, many users copy and paste the "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" template into their user page, but there are other options at Template messages/User namespace. The following examples could also copied and pasted into your user page:
- Option 1
- I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions, with the exception of my user pages, as described below:
- {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}
OR
- Option 2
- I agree to [[Wikipedia:Multi-licensing|multi-license]] all my contributions to any [[U.S. state]], county, or city article as described below:
- {{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}
Or if you wanted to place your work into the public ___domain, you could replace "{{DualLicenseWithCC-BySA-Dual}}" with "{{MultiLicensePD}}". If you only prefer using the GFDL, I would like to know that too. Please let me know what you think at my talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. – Ram-Man (comment) (talk)[[]] 20:13, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)
- I'd request that you consider this — I would love to use (eg.) your Malaysia state maps on Wikitravel. Jpatokal 15:35, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- Pretty pretty please? Jpatokal 17:49, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Categorisation
Just wondering about something, according to you the metropolitan counties are still legally administrative counties, but on all the infoboxes on the met county articles it states they are ceremonial counties only. If they are still administrative counties then shoudn't we put "administrative county (no county council)" or something in the infoboxes. G-Man 20:06, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I hate to disagree, but I don't find the changes G-Man has made (and which you seem to support) to Berkshire, South Yorkshire, West Yorkshire and possibly other counties not on my watchlist, particularly helpful. If those counties are still legally administrative counties, then this is a legal quirk and probably no more than a legislative drafting error. Certainly in the normal English usage of of the word administrative, they are not administrative counties as they do not have an administrator or administration and are not administered as a unit. I think the average reader of Wikipedia, especially one not familiar with English local government, is going to read the changed entries and come to completely the wrong conclusion, that the counties are administered by some non-elected entity in place of a council. -- Chris j wood 21:49, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
Wikijuniour
Hey, over at wikibooks:Wikijunior_South_America/South_America we are trying to use an image you uploaded to South America, but cant quite figure out how to do it if its not on commons. Do you either know how to do interwiki image links, or have a copy of the image which you could re-upload to the commons? thanks. The bellman 00:48, 2004 Nov 26 (UTC)
Get well and cheer up:-)
Hi Morwen,
For a couple of months I failed to notice your user name on any articles I edited (a RARITY), and, paying a visit to your user page and then to your blog, discovered that you've been in hospital. I'm sorry to hear that. Know that I've missed you and that I hope you'll be well soon. David Cannon 08:05, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
We missed you
It's good to see you back. Drop me a message to let me know how you are when you pick this up. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 18:55, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
The exciting world of image tagging
Greetings! A while age you signed up to help tag images, so I thought I'd let you know what's been going on lately in the image-tagging world.
First off, things are moving slow, but at least they're moving in the right direction. (What I mean is, more images are tagged every month than the number of newly uploaded images without tags, so the net number of untagged images keep decreasing.) But judging from the progress on the lists at User:Yann/Untagged Images, most of the time it's just me tagging images. And it sure gets lonely out on the tagging prairie.
Second, I have basically rewritten the User:Yann/Untagged Images page. Hopefully that will make it easier for people to help, and will attract new recruits. What do you think of the new text and layout?
And third, there have been a bunch of new tags added in the last month. Check out Wikipedia:Image copyright tags for the new tags and new organization, mostly done by Zondor.
If you have any questions, feel free to contact me. Happy holidays! – Quadell (talk) (help)[[]] 17:33, Dec 8, 2004 (UTC)
Unverified images
Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:
I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk, automation script)]] 03:28, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
P.S. You can help tag other images at User:Yann/Untagged_Images. Thanks again.
Unverified images
Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:
I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk, automation script)]] 03:52, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
P.S. You can help tag other images at User:Yann/Untagged_Images. Thanks again.
Unverified images
Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:
I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much. [[User:Poccil|Peter O. (Talk, automation script)]] 21:37, Dec 10, 2004 (UTC)
P.S. You can help tag other images at User:Yann/Untagged_Images. Thanks again.
Image:BelgiumLuxembourg.png
Image:BelgiumLuxembourg.png Form where did you get that image? Walter 13:26, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Because you say on your user page that you make maps I will assume that all the maps that you have uploaded are made by you and include that information on commons --Walter 15:20, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
They were derived from en:Image:West-VlaanderenLocation.png
82.3.32.72 16 dec 2004 20:08 (CET) (user:morwen)
- I do not understand. The map West-VlaanderenLocation.png is only about flanders. The maps from where I think you have made them are from Belgium. You can not have created them from the map West-VlaanderenLocation.png . I ask only confirmation that the maps in the style of Image:BelgiumLuxembourg.png and the maps you have uploaded and do not contain any information of the source are maps made by you. That is all. I watch this page, you can reply here --Walter 21:04, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
- Those maps of flanders and wallonia are made by w:nl:gebruiker:LennartBolks are public ___domain. So that is ok --Walter 11:00, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Rienzo
Since you have been involved with Rienzo before, you probably ought to see
Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration#Rienzo and his sockpuppets
CheeseDreams 01:54, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
New Iranian Provinces
Can you please incorporate the new provinces in your map of Iran? Here is a new map [1]. Khorasan has been divided into (top to bottom): North Khorasan, Razavi Khorasan, and South Khorasan. Thanks. – Kaveh (talk)[[]] 09:40, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Greetings and questions
First of all, I've always been a fan of your work - your maps of the British counties is simply marvelous. And I just spent a few minutes browsing your website and LJ, and wow, I don't know *personally* what you're going through, but I have a couple of a friends that look forward to the same thing, so I'm very happy everything's went by without a hitch. It's nice to see you haven't left WP altogether, and that you're recovering so well. And you're very purple.
Okay, enough pleasantries! Now for the real reason (well, saying Hi was a real reason) I came here. I was just curious why your maps of Great Britain have a more .. angular look to them than your other maps. Comparing, say, your map of Albania and your map of Scotland.
Was this a stylistic choice, or did the Albanian map simply look better with smoother borders? Your maps have inspired me to make a few; please see my map of Algeria (Obviously one of my first efforts, and first in line for a redo) and my map of Congo-Brazzaville (second in line for a redo ;), and the inspiration should be obvious, since I'm using your color scheme. :) I was just hoping to learn a little more about your choices and methods. I've looked through your history and gleaned that we basically use the same techniques, some of which I learned from your archives.
I've been tracing maps with a brush tool; you look more like you've been using a line tool. That certainly does sound simpler, and such maps do not need to be 100% geographically accurate - merely indicative of ___location and shape, and pleasing to the eye, which your's certainly are. Hope you feel well enough for a response soon. Thanks! --Golbez 19:14, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)
- Actually, now that I look, maybe they weren't line tools, and just really straight brush strokes. Anyway, you can happily ignore all the above (except the greetings), I have a newer and better question now. As you can see in my maps, what I do is I use a soft brush to draw the outline, then fill it in. However, the fill tool doesn't notice the edge of the soft brush, and doesn't fill it, leaving a transparent area there. I notice your maps don't do this, yet seem to have soft brushes (that is, when you have a black line around a red area on your map, the red and black properly merge into each other along the line; a hard brush, I think, would be solid black along the way, and appropriately jagged). My question is... how? :) Is it a different tool you use, or do you do things in a different order than me? Do you work with, say, a red background, then draw the lines over that, then ... I dunno, I'm just trying to figure it out. :) I've tried the GIMP but I have the same problems. Hope you feel better soon, and thanks in advance. --Golbez 05:53, Dec 22, 2004 (UTC)
- Thank you very much for your reply. :) I thought that might be the answer, that is, making the map really honkin' big and then shrinking it down. That's also useful in other ways. My problem is, I've been shrinking the map down, THEN working on it, and that obviously is a no-no. I also like the idea of shrinking it down to 1-bit, that's pretty smart. Thanks :) --Golbez 16:53, Dec 23, 2004 (UTC)
Hi. I see that you wrote the bulk of the article for Willetts, including the reference to his ownership of stock in Sensor-Tec Limited. I was interested in learning more about the company, so I googled it, and the only references that show up with that spelling are other references to Willetts. But there is also the query, "Did You Mean Sensor-Tech Ltd.?" So I tried that spelling, with the "h" in Tech, and got the kind of results one would expect from a publicly-traded company name.
So I'm confused. Are Sensor-Tec and Sensor-Tech the same company? --Christofurio 16:16, Dec 19, 2004 (UTC)
map image license
All those images for Croatian counties are GFDL, right? --Joy [shallot] 13:35, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Map of East Berlin
Greetings ! I have a little problem with Image:Occupiedberlin.png featured on East_Berlin : I see that the British and American sectors are marked with the same colour. Since this does not make sense and that I am colour-blind, I suppose that they are in fact different. I wanted to download that map and edit it a little bit so that it would be readable even in spite of colour-blindness, but it seems there is a little problem with the high-resolution image... Is it only me, or is it missing from the Image:Occupiedberlin.png page ? Thank you ! Rama 08:51, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Counties stuff
Hi Morwen I hope your getting on OK?. I just thought I'd tell you that User:Owain is adding "X place is in the traditional county" stuff to loads of Welsh town articles. G-Man 22:49, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Homophobic Vandalism
I have reason to believe that the following are all sockpuppets of each other
User:148.136.141.172, User:Rienzo, User:Baffinisland, User:Lady Tara, User:Nasse
I believe that you met one of them back in June
if you wish to add evidence to the new arbitration against any of them, you can do so at Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Rienzo/Evidence
CheeseDreams 01:52, 8 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Continent_locator_maps
do you have more of this nice green Continent_locator_maps for: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Continent_locator_maps or can you maybe create the missing ones (Europe,Asia,North America, The americas, Oceania). Regards Tobias Conradi 07:03, 9 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Merging town and borough, sometimes?
Hi Morwen - As a newbie, although I have Wiki-ed for years and am sadly data-orientated (!), can I ask you to peek at Wikipedia:Help desk#Merge Oldham with Oldham (borough). I have no wish to tread on any good work, but I'm willing to take comments from you. Warofdreams pointed me to you. The note is a question rather than a statement.
I think that Macclesfield needed merging with its borough so I did it, but Oldham is typical of somewhere that does not. Sound logical to take a case by case view?
Cheers - Peter Hitchmough 19:06, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
- I demerged Macclesfield and, significantly, moved some Macc facts to the town article. I agreed with your agruments and now the 2 pages work better than they did. Thanks. Peter Hitchmough 10:44, 15 Jan 2005 (UTC)
Greetings. I just started the Wikipedia:Image recreation requests project, and I thought you might be interested. Your help would be greatly appreciated. (I got your name from the list at Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Cartographers.) Best regards, – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 03:20, Jan 30, 2005 (UTC)
Morwen.jpg
What is the copyright status of Image:Morwen.jpg? Boffy b 20:39, 2005 Feb 10 (UTC)
- No idea. I didn't take it so I'm not the owner. If you look at the image page you will note it isn't me that uploaded it either. ;) Morwen - Talk 08:40, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Sorry, I emailed Tim Starling(who has left Wikipedia), and he said:
Morwen showed us that picture on IRC, we asked if it was alright to
upload it, she said yes. It's possible the photo was taken by a
professional photographer who has retained the copyright. I would either
ask Morwen or call it fair use.
-- Tim Starling
- so shall I just tag it {{fairuse}}? Boffy b 13:58, 2005 Feb 11 (UTC)
Iraqi provinces
Hi, I think it'll be a good idea to upload the maps of Iraqi provinces on Commons. This will require deletion of the images here at en.wikipedia, I suppose. What do you think about that? --webkid 18:25, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
English county maps
Greetings. I was image tagging, when I came across Image:England RedcliffeMaud.png and Image:EnglandCountiesCere.png. I was unable to determine the copyright status. Could you add image copyright tags to them? Thanks, – Quadell (talk) (sleuth) 03:03, Feb 12, 2005 (UTC)
Former counties
I created an article County of the City of Coventry, but I'm not sure what category to put it in. I was thinking perhaps a new category should be created such as [Category: Former English Counties]. Which we could put in things like Avon, Hereford and Worcester, Islandshire etc. What do you think?. Also I did some work at Districts of England, hope you like it. G-Man 20:15, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Map of the Americas
Hi Morwen,
I saw you made quite a lot of great maps, for example the one of South America.
Would it maybe be possible that you provide me with the raw material you used? I'd like to work on some American maps (for example about the NAFTA and the FTAA) but would need the images in a higer resolution.
Thanks a lot in advance.
--Wotan 10:35, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for the comment - I see what you mean now. But then the Government of Ireland Act may also be problematic, as it changed the seats in the Commons. I will clarify. -- ALoan (Talk) 12:13, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Lost Counties, etc.
I have a lousy daytime Internet connection, and this has happened to me once before. I know what to do to avoid it, and I will get in there and clean up the article ASAP. Thanks for the heads-up. Mark in Richmond. Vaoverland 14:21, Feb 23, 2005 (UTC)
Iran
I uploaded Image:IranKerman.png to Commons and commons:Iran Stern 19:45, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
Anthony Ashley Cooper
Hello, Morwen. Sadly, both the father and the son of the present Earl have/had the same courtesy title, "Baron Ashley." The elder one, however, was a soldier, so "Anthony Ashley Cooper, Baron Ashley" might be appropriate. On the other hand, one may use middle names to differentiate between the two: just "Anthony Ashley Cooper, Baron Ashley" for the elder, and "Anthony Nils Christian Ashley Cooper, Baron Ashley" for the younger. -- Emsworth 20:03, 27 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thank you
Thanks for voting on kibbutz. I can't believe it took two days to get a single support or object comment. I was concerned about some kind of silent filibuster. Dinopup 14:09, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Call me slow on the uptake
But I'm glad you're back. I'd still like to bicker with you sometime about the naming of local authorities such as Bradford Met, and the width of infoboxes on local authority pages. Later, perhaps. best wishes --Tagishsimon (talk)
WP:RM
I have moved your agreement which you placed on the WP:RM page onto Talk:Secretary of State for the Home Department. Supports and Oppose now have to be placed there to be valid. Please check out what I did and make any changes that you think appropriate Philip Baird Shearer 23:57, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Grenada
You inserted the following into the Grenada article:
- The island was a province of the short-lived West Indies Federation from 1958 to 1962, but then reverted to being a British overseas territory.
AFAIK, the status "British overseas territory" only dates to the early 1970s. In addition, since the WIndies Federation was never independent, you couldn't say that Grenada reverted to being part of the British Empire. To split another hair, I don't know that the constituent territories of the Federation were called Provinces - I have not heard that word before in that context. Guettarda 00:08, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I don't know what the formal status of the Federation was. I read some Federation-era documents (declassified US state department stuff) in which the UK government reassured the Americans that they could remove Eric Williams (then Premier of Trinidad and Tobago) if his positions got too extreme (although they doubted it would be necessary) and that they (the British) still controlled external affairs. I suspect that the WIndies Federation was moving towards Dominion status, but I am not sure about exactly where it ended up or where it was headed. Most of what I know is anecdotal, stuff I picked up growing up, with a little added recently. But I am just a biologist. Rather than knowing, my problem is that I know enough to spot inaccuracies, but I don't know enough to fix them
- I don't actually know how to fix it - that's the problem. I don't think British Overseas Territory was a designation that existed at the time - do you know? To be honest, I am not absolutely certain what Grenada's status was prior to the Federation. Most of the islands acquired before the Napoleonic Wars had elected assemblies - Trinidad, on the other hand, remained a Crown Colony, in a large part because the native population was seen as hostile. Despite the French roots in Grenada, Grenada was fairly well Anglicised (unlike, say, St Lucia, where French patois is still the main language in parts of the countryside). Guettarda 19:58, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
- I think British Overseas Territory is probably the right link, I just feel we should use the correct wording for that time period for Grenada. I suppose I should make a trek to the library and see what I can find. Hopefully there are books on Grenada here in Oklahoma ;) Guettarda 20:06, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
New Oasis album
Good afternoon, Morwen. How did you know the track listing for the Oasis album Don't Believe the Truth? -- Mike Garcia 20:28, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Cornish Nationalism
Morwen maybe you could contribute to the Constitutional status of Cornwall article as well. Also did you add the following to the Cornish nationalism page.
"The Local Government Act 1972 unambiguously declares Cornwall to be part of England"
If so what was Cornwall before 1972? Was it created a County in 1888, if so what was it before 1888? Bretagne 44
I'm sorry, but I have very little stomach to contribute to such pages. I've already had battles on subject areas I don't care about (beyond a certain general wish to see the status quo fairly represented), and have got sick of it.
Whether or not Cornwall is a county seems irrelevant to me. Flintshire is a county, but is not part of England. Greater London is not a county, but is nontheless part of England. I can't speak for the contents of the 1888 legislation, as I don't have a copy, but I can assure you the 1972 Act treats Cornwall no differently to Lancashire, and re-creates it a "county", in "England". It seems to me to be evidently a county palatine, though I know it hasn't historically been called that. An actual survey of usage over the centuries would be interesting, rather than just clipping out the pro-Cornish-nationalist highlights as seems to have been done when that section of the page was compiled. Morwen - Talk 21:28, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Thanks for your response, as to the survey of usage I totally agree and i need help to do that. In fact i am going to move the information from the Cornish nationalism page to the Constitutional status of Cornwall page. I would ask though if you have very little stomach to contribute to such pages why did you contribute in the first place? "Whether or not Cornwall is a county seems irrelevant to me" that seems to be an odd attitude for someone who wants to contribute to pages about counties and add comments about the constitutional nature of Cornwall. Bretagne 44
Cartoon vandal
It just occurred to me that while you were away, I redirected User:Morwen/Cartoon to User:Rhymeless/Cartoon, tracking the cartoon vandal. I was hoping that it would be okay to do so at the time, and wondering if you mind. -Tim Rhymeless (Er...let's shimmy) 08:24, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
More wen+
Hoi Morwen! Would you be willing to give a hand reviewing some articles for excellence at the end of the month?
HELP!
Could you please help us on the Talk:England page. User:Aroberts keeps insisting that London is not England's capital city and edit wars occur frequently. REX 14:08, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Map of Greece
Hi Morwen,
I saw you uploaded this map Image:GreeceCorinth.png of Greece about one year ago. Do you still know (or have...) the "empty" map, where no prefecture is marked? I need it for the german Lamia (city) article... Thank you, rdb 11:19, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Personal attack against you?
You might want to take a look at Wikipedia:Wikistory, an anon user has added a word that in context could be considered a personal attack against you. Thryduulf 23:16, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
Why was this article tagged for clean up? TAS 18:07, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
Lord High Chancellor
I've noticed you've redirected the Constitutional Reform Bill page - thanks.
To clear things up, the Lord Chancellor now can be from either house (ie an MP or a Peer) and does not need to have been a lawyer. These were the sticking points which the Lords tried hard to stop happening, but the Commons got their way in the end.
If you need anything else clearing up on what the Act says, just give me a nudge. :)
- (Reply) The bits will come into effect, well, in bits! The Lord Chancellor will continue to be the Speaker until the Lords agree on a new system and create the new office of Lord Speaker. As you probably know, the new Supreme Court is still a long way off too. I doubt that the Lord Chancellor will be an MP soon - I think Charlie Falconer will be in the job for a few more years. Though saying that, in a month's time there could be a pretty major reshuffle of the cabinet after the election (even if Labour win again). We'll just have to wait and see... David.
UK regions
hi noticed you had made some nice maps of the UK regions. Was just wondering if you had one of Northern Ireland?
Election
Have you had a look at the election article yet? It is not the most impressive article on Wikipedia. There are also a number of associated articles like this one. Our coverage is frayed aroond the edges. I bet the American election article last year extended to aboot a billion words this close to the election.
New wikiproject
Hi Morwen, I am thinking of starting a wikiproject to coordinate the List of places in Scotland, List of places in England, List of places in Wales and List of places in Northern Ireland pages, basically to actually create the 'list of places in cambridgeshire'... type articles and then a standard format for the places in those lists (e.g. categories, nice data tables etc.). Anyway, I noticed you made the WikiProject UK subdivisions, how do I start a project, is there some kind of procedure? and it would naturally be a sister project to the one you started, so would you like to help?, go on, you know you want to ;-) Bluemoose 11:07, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)