Talk:GNAA (disambiguation)

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Old talk at Talk:Gay Nigger Association of America

Alphabetical order

There is no order to the list. The only natural way to order it is in alphabetical order. Reverting it is illogical.

GNAA Discussion Page

"GNAA (Slashdot)" exists, so the disambiguation must be here. If you don't like GNAA (Slashdot) discuss it on Talk:GNAA_(Slashdot) GoGi

Please read this. GoGi

Neutral disambiguation

As of this writing, there exist two organizations known under the acronym GNAA -- the Global Network of Arab Activists and the Gay Nigger Association of America, respectively. This page—the GNAA page— was (at the time of me originally writing this) a redirect to Global Network of Arab Activists and that article had a link to the Gay Nigger Association of America at its top.

I have boldly changed this page to a pure disambiguation page.

I recognize that there a lot of editing to and fro has already occurred and that this is a contentious issue. However, I offer the following reasons for my initiative:

  1. Automatically redirecting to one of the two articles (with the other only being granted a link while the user already is on the "competing" article page) is likely to result in further disagreement over which organization is more important and which of the two respective articles the GNAA page should redirect to. A neutral disambiguation page avoids a contest over this.
  2. Without being familiar with Islam's attitude towards homosexuality and/or Internet trolling, and without being familiar with the Gay Nigger AA's attitude towards Arab culture, I do strongly suspect that the two organizations are very far apart. The Global Network of Arab Activists would probably not appreciate seeing their article adorned with a prominent link to the Gay Nigger Association of America. Likewise, the Gay Nigger Association of America may possibly not want to see their activities considered Arab activism (admittedly, being a troll organization, they might also find this amusing).
  3. "GNAA" is just an acronym. It is appropriate that the pure acronym page should be a redirect and the respective articles should remain logged under more detailed names.
  4. Looking at other cases where there are multiple definitions for an acronym, it would also certainly appear to me that is is Wikipedia convention to handle such issues this way.
  5. Only in cases where one acronym expansion is ubiquituously known and other definitions are not is there precedent for redirecting directly to an article and having a neutral statement of "For other meanings, see XYZ (disambiguation)" at the top.
  6. Neither of the two definitions in this case are truly ubiquituously known.

For these reasons, I made this page a neutral redirect page.

The order of listing both options was alphabetical (but someone has changed that since, which I don't consider an issue with only two options).

I am aware that the "GNAA (Slashdot)" page remains orphaned under this solution -- it was however orphaned before, so nothing changes in that respect.

If you think things should be changed again despite the above reasons, then please use the Talk page and give people a realistic chance to reply before making further changes. Thank you.

Ropers 02:09, 25 Sep 2004 (UTC)

PS: And yes, I have seen the "Gay Niggers from Outer Space" film -- a not unfunny member of the "so bad, it's good" movie category. I'm just saying.

Global Network of Arab Activists

Since this page lost VfD a few days ago, we should probably get rid of the red link before someone recreates the page. Forget it, I only posted this because the page was protected, but now it's unprotected and Silsor added several more expansions. If people want all those articles, I don't object. I'm relatively new here, so I don't want to be the one to start the next edit war or VfD controversy over this acronym.

Dave6 04:20, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Why did my order change get removed? It looks like you're trying to put Gay Nigger Association of America at the bottom in all your edits.

You could go off on me, or you could actually look at the page history. silsor 00:37, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)
I fail to see how asking you to provide justification for your edits is 'going off' on you. I don't see why one entry should always float to the bottom, unless you're trying to hide it or some such.
Is it really that much trouble to look at the page history like I asked? In this edit, an anonymous contributor moved the article to the bottom of the list. I moved it back to near the top.
Anonymous users seem a little fishy after taking such an unusual interest in this page (a favourite target of vandals and trolls) that they want to put it in "alphabetical order" - which coincidentally is the same as listing the Gay Nigger Association of America first. silsor 22:13, Apr 4, 2005 (UTC)
If you have any other suggestions as to order that doesn't put one entry (somewhat unfairly) towards the end, i'd love to hear them.
Lists generally have a beginning and an end. Am I missing something? silsor 01:12, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
Stop evading. Please to answer my question.
You're crazy if you're expecting an answer to a nonsensical question. "Please suggest an order for this list that does not have an ending" indeed. silsor 16:23, Apr 5, 2005 (UTC)
Quite frankly, I don't understand the hassle over putting it in an order like everything else. I think you should stop being so anal and become a little more logical. Alphabetical order is completely appropriate for this list. --SpinelessCommie 16:50, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
THANK YOU. wtf was silsor's (more like silswhore) problem?