Talk:Spring, Summer, Fall, Winter... and Spring
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Translation issues
I just finished watching this amazing movie and read the plot synopsis. There are several things that do not match with the plot I just saw -- perhaps the plot was cut differently in the US release? I am going to correct the differences (soon) since this is the English version, but please discuss if necessary... Nathan Beach 04:48, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- The chronology of "Summer" is definitely confused -- do you see other problems? -- Visviva 10:12, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- Just some minor stuff like that -- I'll take a pass at it today and let you review... Nathan Beach 16:52, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
- I edited Spring and Summer, but need to get back to work for now (I'll do more later). Please make any adjustments to my revisions that you see fit! Nathan Beach 17:33, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Murder
When I saw the movie for the first time in a cinema I read "a young man killd his wife" written on the piece of newspaper being explained by the subtitles. In fact later I bought the german DVD, where there was no translation of that headline at all. Outgoing of this I showed the movie to many friends, one after an other. Everybody concluded by himself the following: The mother at the end of the film is the young girl of summer. She must be, because they are too intimate, much too familar for being strangers. Which mother would confide her baby to a stranger? Moreover, he'd killed the girl and repeats it in rage under the eyes of his master? Rage against the girl after killing her? This does not seem very logical. So all my friends concluded: he killed the lover of her. They never thought, that he killed the girl. I posted a question on the corean Kim Ki-duk Wikipedia entry some weeks ago without an answer. Could it be just a slipshod translation? Orther 20:42, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
Fall and the "traditional" suicide
Monk's way of committing suicide is called "traditional", however it doesn't appear to be a part of buddhist tradition. I've failed to find any mention of such tradition in the net and several discussions at korean and chinese communities of LiveJournal show that this suicide rithual is likely to be the director's imagination. (Anyways, if that's really a tradition, there should be some mention of it's meaning or national roots.)
Nox Noctis 10:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
Different Versions ?
I edited the end of the plot. The part where the second boy shoves stones into the mouthes of a fish, a frog and a snake was completely missed out, even though it is a very important element in the story, and constitutes the closing scene. Were different versions released ? --Jackaranga 21:21, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
- It would seem that there are different versions. I just watched a US version, in which the second boy simply enjoys tormenting a turtle he finds on the deck of the Hermitage. The film ends this way, with the implication that the cycle is repeating itself. --KeithB 13:11, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
In the version of the movie I saw the woman's face was revealed after the monk had retrived her body, he proceeds to unwrap the scarf she had on her face and it is literally shown to be the head of a buddhist statue carved from stone. The rest of the movie continues as presently stated with the exception that the young boy is shown striking a turtle with a stone, and no scenes duplicating the snake, fish and frog incidents from the movie's beginning. 65.7.64.146 16:40, 6 June 2007 (UTC)----JamesD June 6th 2007
More info: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374546/alternateversions The missing sequence is placed just before the final shot of the film. After the shot of child monk in the rowboat, in the cut scenes the child monk is shown putting stones into the mouths of a fish, a frog, and a snake; these scenes emphasize the film's themes of the circularity of life. The film then continues to its final scene of the Buddha statue on the hill.