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LangCom please see these 1. Kashmiri Wiki[1] both in dewnagri and kashmir scripts projects,there is no active 3 users available 2.Western Punjabi Wiki[2] 3.Pashto Wiki[3] 4.Sindhi Wiki[4] there is only one active user, there are no active 3 users available, please revert back these projects to incubator after checking check user --Rehmat Aziz Chitrali 07:18, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
- @Rachitrali:
- Denigrating other projects will not help you make your case for your project.
- The rules for projects that already exist are not necessarily the same as the rules for projects looking to become approved. It is possible that some or all of the projects you cited above would not be approved if they came up for approval today. But since they do exist, they are subject only to the rules for existing projects.
- The only way to close a project that already exists and to move it back to Incubator is if it is closed consistent with Closing projects policy.
- I suggest you focus on recruiting more contributors to your community and on continuing to grow the Khowar Wikipedia test. Don't worry about other tests and projects unless you see a lot of vandalism in them. StevenJ81 (talk) 15:38, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Request for launching Wikinews, Dutch version from the Dutch Wikinews Community
During the last months, there has been a lot of activity on the Dutch Wikinews. The project is currently active with an average of 4 to 10 new articles each day. It's the intention to build a coherent relationship with the news sections of Wikipedia in Dutch. There are also some ideas to work together with journalism schools in collaboration with 'Wikimedia the Netherlands', but those have not yet been made concrete. To keep the project growing, it's designated to launch the Wikinews officially with an own wiki. (An additional request is to rename Wikinews in Dutch to 'Wikinieuws', the Dutch translation of the name and to purchase the domains wikinieuws.nl and wikinieuws.be redirecting to this Wiki). --Livenws (talk) 09:50, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
Support- this request is in my name as well, as I am currently an active contributor to nl-wikinews too. It's been here for almost one day and a half now, it would be nice if it could be handled soon. De Wikischim (talk) 13:38, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
- I've been watching you two, and others, work hard at this over the last several months. So I support. But do understand that these things take time. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:59, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply, but I was afraid that none of the Language committee members had read this message. Meanwhile we continue to work on the project in the Incubator. --LIVE NIEUWS (talk) 21:47, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
- @LIVE NIEUWS: That said: this is really still a three-person operation (mainly). That's technically enough, but see if you can recruit a few more contributors. That will help your cause. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:33, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- We are very busy with that, but it isn't easy. Many contributors do not want to cooperate until it's out of the incubator. --Livenws (talk) 21:47, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support - I'm actually a Wikipedian, but I will try to donate an article so once and a while. As long as it is in the incubator, it doesn't motivate to do so though. So I very much support the idea to launch Wikinieuws again. In that case, recruitment of new volunteers will be easier too. Ymnes (talk) 09:43, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Huhbakker (talk) 14:00, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support- As for the reasons said above JBergsma1 (talk) 18:41, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support --Huhbakker (talk) 14:00, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- Support - I'm actually a Wikipedian, but I will try to donate an article so once and a while. As long as it is in the incubator, it doesn't motivate to do so though. So I very much support the idea to launch Wikinieuws again. In that case, recruitment of new volunteers will be easier too. Ymnes (talk) 09:43, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
- We are very busy with that, but it isn't easy. Many contributors do not want to cooperate until it's out of the incubator. --Livenws (talk) 21:47, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- @LIVE NIEUWS: That said: this is really still a three-person operation (mainly). That's technically enough, but see if you can recruit a few more contributors. That will help your cause. StevenJ81 (talk) 21:33, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for your reply, but I was afraid that none of the Language committee members had read this message. Meanwhile we continue to work on the project in the Incubator. --LIVE NIEUWS (talk) 21:47, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
I have a special request. I have seen that it is possible to import articles from other projects. This is functioning on the German Wikipedia for instance. This would be a great asset when the Dutch Wikinieuws is revived, thinking of two categories: 1) articles on Dutch Wikipedia that are nominated for deletion because they are merely news pages and not so much encyclopedia pages; and 2) contributions in other Wikinews languages (especially original interviews/news). Is it possible to have this option operational as well, when Wikinieuws has restarted? Ymnes (talk) 18:56, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
- I endorse the first part of Ymnes' suggestion which is about importing articles from NL-WP the subjects of which are more appropriate for Wikinews (a template for this was already created earlier, see [5]), but the idea of importing texts from other language versions of Wikinews seems rather discussable. And why in particular original news/interviews? De Wikischim (talk) 19:46, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
- Only to be translated right away next, to have the original journalist in the history page. Ymnes (talk) 16:00, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose the Dutch Wikinews is a failed project. No real community and the content was crap. When I look on incubator I see a hand full of users just copy and pasting stuff from online news sources. This project doesn't have any potential. This is just a spike in activity that doesn't even come near to being a viable project. Multichill (talk) 21:55, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- Obviously you don't know anything about the current status of nl-Wikinews. My suggestion: read yourself up on that first, and then give your opinion here. De Wikischim (talk) 15:22, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Multichill, you've not informed yourself. Your post is not what the current status is. Please argue in the Redactieruimte, in stead of just saying something here. Ymnes (talk) 20:24, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, let's attack the person who doesn't like your pet project. I looked into it before I commented here. De Wikischim is a very problematic member of the Dutch community with an impressive blocklog on the Dutch Wikipedia and and on the Dutch Wikiquote. Having a problematic user like this as the main driver of the project will make sure that a lot of members from the Dutch community don't want anything to do with it. It will just become a project for for a few outcasts. And no, I won't comment in your "Redactieruimte", because the language committee reads this page and I don't want them to make the mistake of re-opening this project. Multichill (talk) 19:50, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- Dear Multichill, I can confirm you that there is an excellent co-operation on Wikinews with all of the contributing members. Also, there is no "main driver", everyone has the same right to speak and all decisions are made with the approval of the others. Please take a look in the discussion room to convince yourself. --Livenws (talk) 10:41, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- Yes, let's attack the person who doesn't like your pet project. I looked into it before I commented here. De Wikischim is a very problematic member of the Dutch community with an impressive blocklog on the Dutch Wikipedia and and on the Dutch Wikiquote. Having a problematic user like this as the main driver of the project will make sure that a lot of members from the Dutch community don't want anything to do with it. It will just become a project for for a few outcasts. And no, I won't comment in your "Redactieruimte", because the language committee reads this page and I don't want them to make the mistake of re-opening this project. Multichill (talk) 19:50, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
- Multichill, you've not informed yourself. Your post is not what the current status is. Please argue in the Redactieruimte, in stead of just saying something here. Ymnes (talk) 20:24, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Obviously you don't know anything about the current status of nl-Wikinews. My suggestion: read yourself up on that first, and then give your opinion here. De Wikischim (talk) 15:22, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support Activity past months looks good enough.TheDragonhunter (talk) 14:08, 7 May 2017 (UTC)
- Support A few colleagues worked hard on the resurrection of a once failed project. They should be rewarded for this work. Wikipedia has been "abused" a few years with all kinds of news articles that have a short life and can be written from now on in the renewed Wikinews in the Dutch language. Klaas `Z4␟` V: 08:49, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
Neutral - On one hand,Dutch Wikinews can balance Dutch Wikipedia.On the other hand, is this necessary? The Norwegian Wikinews is close to closing, and I wonder whether Dutch people are interested in original reporting for Wikinews.--George Ho (talk) 11:40, 8 May 2017 (UTC); new comment below. 11:53, 8 May 2017 (UTC)- Hmm... change to support. Let's give Dutch Wikinews a few years. I hope we can bring in more original Dutch reporters to compete existing Dutch outlets. --George Ho (talk) 11:53, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Let me add some important facts/differences here: Norwegian is spoken by circa 4.6 million people and they have two forms of writing: Bokmål and Nynorsk. So on an average 2.3 million people per language. Dutch is spoken in 3 countries: the Netherlands, Belgium and Suriname. There are 24 million people around the world that speak this language. I have respect for what the Norwegians do on the projects, but the comparison is not very equal. Ymnes (talk) 15:56, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the statistical facts, Ymnes. According to my research, the Netherlands and Belgium are highly dense countries. BTW, I previewed the incubated Dutch Wikinews, and my conclusion for the high activity is the lack of protection of the articles, especially when created. Articles at English Wikinews currently need an approval of an admin or an editor with
reviewerright, but the amount of active admins and reviewers is very low, resulting in very little number of articles published. If Dutch Wikinews is officially resurrected, how would the articles be approved and managed there? --George Ho (talk) 16:52, 8 May 2017 (UTC)- The current editors are very active and I'm quite sure three are very determined to stay (two are editing/reviewing work of others as well - not even counting me in here, and I do it as well where I can). Others will come by so now and than and there are plans to attract new users. So don't worry about that. Dutch Wiki projects are quite reliable in general terms. When I compare it between Dutch and English Wikipedia (and a lot of users on nl.Wikipedia share this view), Dutch Wikipedia may be smaller but is much more reliable than English Wikipedia. Next to that everything on nl.Wikinews is sourced, so readers can check en correct themselves as well, just how Wiki's work. Ymnes (talk) 17:05, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- (...) (and a lot of users on nl.Wikipedia share this view) (...) Based on what? The Banner (talk) 19:49, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
- The current editors are very active and I'm quite sure three are very determined to stay (two are editing/reviewing work of others as well - not even counting me in here, and I do it as well where I can). Others will come by so now and than and there are plans to attract new users. So don't worry about that. Dutch Wiki projects are quite reliable in general terms. When I compare it between Dutch and English Wikipedia (and a lot of users on nl.Wikipedia share this view), Dutch Wikipedia may be smaller but is much more reliable than English Wikipedia. Next to that everything on nl.Wikinews is sourced, so readers can check en correct themselves as well, just how Wiki's work. Ymnes (talk) 17:05, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Thanks for the statistical facts, Ymnes. According to my research, the Netherlands and Belgium are highly dense countries. BTW, I previewed the incubated Dutch Wikinews, and my conclusion for the high activity is the lack of protection of the articles, especially when created. Articles at English Wikinews currently need an approval of an admin or an editor with
- Let me add some important facts/differences here: Norwegian is spoken by circa 4.6 million people and they have two forms of writing: Bokmål and Nynorsk. So on an average 2.3 million people per language. Dutch is spoken in 3 countries: the Netherlands, Belgium and Suriname. There are 24 million people around the world that speak this language. I have respect for what the Norwegians do on the projects, but the comparison is not very equal. Ymnes (talk) 15:56, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Oppose Just a very tiny group is people WikiNews. There is no guarantee about continuity with such a tiny group. The Banner (talk) 19:45, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
- Let not feelings matter please, especially when one is accustomed to Wikipedia figures. Look at for instance German Wikinews (quite a good comparison, although much more active on Wikipedia than the Dutch version): on Wikinews it has 1,67 news items per day in april. The current Dutch version in the incubator has 6,67 new news items per day (203 in april). Please let the facts count. The platform of Wikinews is a very different thing than Wikipedia, and when there is momentum under a small group to restart it, than we should restart it now. What I mentioned above here, is what I really expect: three people are at least there to stay, so I expect very much that the momentum will stay as well. An so will be the numbers than: far much more than German Wikinews. Ymnes (talk) 04:56, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- By now they are active, but what will happen when the Wikipedia Community refuses to allocate space on the opening page? That scenario is not unlikely! The Banner (talk) 15:06, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- "What if ... happens" questions aren't very useful. Ymnes (talk) 17:38, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- @The Banner: that's completely beside the point. This here is nothing but a simple request to put Wikinews-nl back into the main space. How the community on Wikipedia-nl will react to that afterwards, is a completely different chapter which is not at all important here on Meta. You can discuss it further on Wikipedia-nl if you want. De Wikischim (talk) 19:56, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, I think User:The Banner is making a different point. He's suggesting that the Netherlands Wikipedia community will refuse to link to Wikinews-nl at the Actueel and Zusterprojecten sections of the Main Page. And if that happens, Wikinews will remain relatively unknown and isolated in the Dutch-speaking community. I suspect that WMF does not want warring Dutch-language news efforts going on. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:45, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- Please don't feed negative feelings, but support facts. The facts I gave are very convincing: 300+ articles month after month is different from the end of Dutch Wikinews when just 2 articles in one month were written. There's a quite high rate of quality in Dutch Wikinews now as well: it's all sourced now and the quality is better than many other versions. Compare it here to en.wikinews: nl.wikinews has more activity, more maintenance, less vandalism (and that will be noticed and dealt with faster). When looking at the real facts on Dutch Wikipedia, there is still an English language link to Wikinews under Zusterprojecten: this one will certainly be in Dutch, when a Dutch version has been relaunched again (especially when quality and new work are shown, as it does). Then the section of Aktueel is there and will remain there, so there is a wish for news on the front page of nl.Wikipedia. There have always been links from there to the past version of nl.Wikinews and there are no arguments why this should be different after a relaunch. The current movement is very different from than. Among the current users on Wikinews, it has been talked over yet that we will not rush in at Dutch Wikipedia, but let the community slowly accustom to the fact that Wikinieuws has been restarted again. In fact there aren't loud negative voices there at the moment. One is only worrying, that users will step over (so there will be less Wikipedians), but they don't fear this project there. Ymnes (talk) 05:30, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
- @StevenJ81: as such, this has nothing to do with the question whether Wikinews-nl should be relaunched. At the moment, the degree of activity on Wikinews-nl is even higher than on other language versions of the project. After the project will have been relaunched, it's up to the community on Wikipedia-nl whether or not they want to treat it just like every other sister project. But as I already noticed, that's an issue which must be discussed on Wikipedia-nl itself. De Wikischim (talk) 09:28, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
- What you see here are mainly the Wikinews-editors pleading for approval. I have checked 30 articles, only to see 6 editors. 4 content creators and 2 fly-by's. That is an unsound base for a whole separate project. And as I have stated before: there is no approval yet that they/this project will gets space on the main page.
- What I suggest is to do it differently: Step 1: request access to the main page as an incubator project (as far as I know the di9fference is not visible to the outside world). Step 2: Widen that article-creator group (real content creators, no fly-by's). Step 3: Prove that the project is sound by delivering a steady stream of news-articles for a period of at least a year. Step 4: ask WMF approval for recognition as separate project.
- Nobody has any use of a project just hanging into thin air when the the Dutch community refuses the access. Nobody has any use for a project that collapses within the year because their are not enough content-creators to handle people leaving. The Banner (talk) 12:25, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- Nobody has any use of a project just hanging into thin are when the the Dutch community refuses the access The possible launch was announced in the village pump of nl.wikipedia. There were a few reactions and 0 objections. Only two users came here to object. So that statement seems wrong. I actually believe that most users here don't care about Wikinews. In comparison to the other Dutch sister projects is the current Wikinews a lot more active. LIVE NIEUWS also claimed that he had other people that want to write on Wikinews, but not as long as it stays in the incubator. So I don't mind giving it a chance.TheDragonhunter (talk) 14:57, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- The voice of The Banner against the relaunch of nl.Wikinews is a lonely one. The success of the relaunch activities it is yet enormous. Consider how dearly a group of volunteers want to restart this thing, when they are feeding it with 200+ articles per month and that yet a very long time (more than 4 months). One can imagine that widening this group even more is not feasible in an incubator. On the other hand (unlikely to happen, but:) even if we lose 85% of the flow of new articles, there will still be 1 article per day. One can just admit: it's a huge success! In fact, one has to learn to see the advantages of Wikinews. In the short period that I am involved now, I have yet written 2 Wikipedia articles, solely because of the fact that I was searching for information that I needed to write a news article here. And consider too, in a time of fake news, Wikinews is a very good development, and the Dutch language should be a participant of this path. And if you don't like it, there is just no need to join it, you can always have your thing at Wikipedia. Ymnes (talk) 17:01, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- No, Ymnes, I am not the only one objecting. But the situation is now that not-involved editors object and that most of the editors in favour of approval are involved editors. The Banner (talk) 20:24, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- The voice of The Banner against the relaunch of nl.Wikinews is a lonely one. The success of the relaunch activities it is yet enormous. Consider how dearly a group of volunteers want to restart this thing, when they are feeding it with 200+ articles per month and that yet a very long time (more than 4 months). One can imagine that widening this group even more is not feasible in an incubator. On the other hand (unlikely to happen, but:) even if we lose 85% of the flow of new articles, there will still be 1 article per day. One can just admit: it's a huge success! In fact, one has to learn to see the advantages of Wikinews. In the short period that I am involved now, I have yet written 2 Wikipedia articles, solely because of the fact that I was searching for information that I needed to write a news article here. And consider too, in a time of fake news, Wikinews is a very good development, and the Dutch language should be a participant of this path. And if you don't like it, there is just no need to join it, you can always have your thing at Wikipedia. Ymnes (talk) 17:01, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- Nobody has any use of a project just hanging into thin are when the the Dutch community refuses the access The possible launch was announced in the village pump of nl.wikipedia. There were a few reactions and 0 objections. Only two users came here to object. So that statement seems wrong. I actually believe that most users here don't care about Wikinews. In comparison to the other Dutch sister projects is the current Wikinews a lot more active. LIVE NIEUWS also claimed that he had other people that want to write on Wikinews, but not as long as it stays in the incubator. So I don't mind giving it a chance.TheDragonhunter (talk) 14:57, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
- Actually, I think User:The Banner is making a different point. He's suggesting that the Netherlands Wikipedia community will refuse to link to Wikinews-nl at the Actueel and Zusterprojecten sections of the Main Page. And if that happens, Wikinews will remain relatively unknown and isolated in the Dutch-speaking community. I suspect that WMF does not want warring Dutch-language news efforts going on. StevenJ81 (talk) 20:45, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- By now they are active, but what will happen when the Wikipedia Community refuses to allocate space on the opening page? That scenario is not unlikely! The Banner (talk) 15:06, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
- Let not feelings matter please, especially when one is accustomed to Wikipedia figures. Look at for instance German Wikinews (quite a good comparison, although much more active on Wikipedia than the Dutch version): on Wikinews it has 1,67 news items per day in april. The current Dutch version in the incubator has 6,67 new news items per day (203 in april). Please let the facts count. The platform of Wikinews is a very different thing than Wikipedia, and when there is momentum under a small group to restart it, than we should restart it now. What I mentioned above here, is what I really expect: three people are at least there to stay, so I expect very much that the momentum will stay as well. An so will be the numbers than: far much more than German Wikinews. Ymnes (talk) 04:56, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
Wikinews in Dutch language (i.e. for NL, BE, SUR, 3 more little countries in the Caribbean and 3 Caribbean areas as a part of NL) is active in the incubator since the beginning of January (nearly 5 months of real activity). I consider it a very long time yet in which many hundreds of articles were written, file categories were filled, and maintenance was done. But if you think we should stay there longer, please tell us how long the term should be. If the amount of work should have been more, please tell us what is needed more to succeed in the launch. If more information is needed, please tell us so and if this page is the right place to write it to the decision makers. If there is still anything needed, before it can be launched, please tell us what it is.
It has been so quiet from the official side, that we really don't understand what we should/can do more. When responsible for the decision, and in case you don't know, pleas ask other Wikinewsers of other languages how we are doing - since this is not a Wikipedia thing.
The best would be to launch it as soon as possible, since at this very moment there is still the momentum and the drive to make it a success. Keeping up the motivation is a human thing, and please support us in keeping it high. Ymnes (talk) 18:22, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- We would like to have an interim report from the Language committée with some information and the state of affairs. Thanks, --Livenws (talk) 12:04, 28 May 2017 (UTC)
- If there is 'news' from the LangCom, a member can post it here. Thanks for cooperation. --Livenws (talk) 21:52, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
The month of May 2017 yielded 295 news threads (Category:Wn/nl/Mei 2017). Please get us out of the incubator. We want full operation, like the other languages. Ymnes (talk) 08:35, 3 June 2017 (UTC)
- Additionally, I for my part want to remind that the renewed activity on Wikinews-nl began in mid-January and did not decline anymore afterwards. So there has been continuous activity for almost five months now, during which many hundreds (rather, more than thousand) of new pages were created. (Only today, again some new pages were added.) De Wikischim (talk) 12:51, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
- Is there already any proof that the Dutch Community will grant you space on the main page? I have not seen anything. The Banner (talk) 15:43, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Le projet wikipédia Guyanais !
Bonjour, Oui enfaite il a de cela quelques mois que j'ai rajouter le créole guyanais comme candidat pour le projet de nouvelle langue sur Wikimedia et je n'ai toujours pas reçu de réponse, S'il vous plaît, j'ai vue sur votre page d'utilisateur que vous travaillez pour la Wikimedia fondation, faite que quelqu'un jette au moins un petit coup d'œil sur mon projet, même ne serai-ce que vous, car je parle Français (je suis français), Anglais (J'ai appris tout seul) et Créole Guyanais (Je suis plus précisément guyanais) et ça fait déjà 2 ans que je suis sur Wikipédia, surtout que ce projet me tient vraiment à cœur, SVP faite quelque chose pour Moi
I speack english Too ! LeGuyanaisPure (talk) 22:31, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
- @LeGuyanaisPure:
- C'est vrai que le Comité des langues doit decider si le Créole guyanais est éligible pour un projet. Même si le comité ferait ça, avant de créer un nouveau Wikipédia, le comité voudra voir qu'il y a une communauté qui contribuera sur le Wiki. Donc, vous (la communauté) devez commencer un test-wiki chez l'Incubateur pour montrer au comité que vous êtes sérieux. Tu peux commencer immédiatement ici: incubator:Wp/gcr. Bonne chance! StevenJ81 (talk) 20:51, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Request for launching Hindi Wikivoyage
This project has seen very good activity during the last six months and more than 3 users have been continuously active during this period. We have focused ourselves at improving quality of articles and now all of them appear to be in good conditions. Looking at the recent activity increase we believe this project can be launched and a ___domain can be allotted to it. Thus, hereby, I request Language committee to take decision regarding its launch. Thanks. --SM7 --talk-- 11:33, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- I don't have enough experience to know whether the number of pages in this test is good or bad for a new Wikivoyage project. However, I have looked at the activity statistics and can affirm what User:SM7 says above. StevenJ81 (talk) 13:25, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
- User:StevenJ81, Can you please tell us, what else we have to do? All active users are either admin or one step bellow sysop on hiwiki.☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 06:19, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
- @संजीव कुमार: The most important thing you need to do now is to continue (a) creating content, and especially (b) continuing to translate MediaWiki messages at translatewiki.net. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:42, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
- User:StevenJ81, Can you please tell us, what else we have to do? All active users are either admin or one step bellow sysop on hiwiki.☆★Sanjeev Kumar (talk) 06:19, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
Request for Approval Hindi Wikiversity
Dear @ZaDiak, Santhosh.thottingal, Baba Tabita, Millosh, Evertype, MF-Warburg, Antony D. Green, Amire80, and StevenJ81: And Others Language committee Members, In Last few Months the Hindi Wikiversity Worked Well in Field of Computer Science And Coding Related Topic. And Made over 300+ articles and 7000+ edits in last few Month (This Month statistics not show due to technical problems in Tools server). I want to Lang-com have a look on Hindi Wikiversity. Wikiversity have Different project Compare to Wikipedia like project. They not need to Thousands of Articles. If you look at Other Wikiversity. You find that they approved without much Content. Our main problem is that the redirection of hi.wikiversity.org not made on Beta.wikiversity.org/wiki/Category:HI. So here I am Requesting to Lang-com. Please have a look on Content. We made Content from English Wikiversity With Best Quality. Two Lang-com Member are Know Hindi Language. So They Can Help to Verify Hindi Wikiversity's Content. I believe that Lang-com Change Status Eligible to Approval Ongoing. Thank you -Jayprakash12345 (talk) 14:13, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
- Comment. I consider this to be borderline approvable now. I'd like to see a little more content from anyone who is not User:Jayprakash12345, only in order to establish the idea that this is a community project, not a one- or two-person project. StevenJ81 (talk) 19:52, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
- @StevenJ81: Thank you very Much Sir Can you Solve our Redirection Problem Because Content is not being used by anyone. You can Understand this Problem, @J ansari, Suyash.dwivedi, Swapnil.Karambelkar, and Shivamsaini360: Can you Contribute more in wikiversity project?-Jayprakash12345 (talk) 05:48, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- certainly ,i would be adding more content in near future.Swapnil.Karambelkar (talk) 08:27, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Jayprakash12345: Now My Examination are going to End. After that I will Put Enough Article.-Shivamsaini360 (talk) 13:33, 6 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Jayprakash12345: You'd have to put in a bug/task at phabricator to fix that. @MF-Warburg: Is it better to fix that redirect problem, or simply to go ahead and get this project out into the subdomain? StevenJ81 (talk) 13:49, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- @MF-Warburg and StevenJ81: I am
fastingin this project. Because I talked with some College which connect us without any grants. So Project approval or Redirection Help us to Connect various College. I can take responsibility of Activity on Hindi WIkiversity. -Jayprakash12345 (talk) 14:18, 2 May 2017 (UTC)- @Jayprakash12345: Could you please say that a different way? The only use of "fast" as a verb in English is to refrain from eating for a period of time. StevenJ81 (talk) 14:39, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- @StevenJ81: So Sorry Sir, But my means that Quickness. I am en-1 User. I know that My English is Very Bad. So once again sorry.-Jayprakash12345 (talk)
- @Jayprakash12345: Since I am hi-(-4), I have no room to complain. But tell me what you are trying to say. Are you telling me that you are in a hurry to get this done, because you are trying to connect it with some colleges/universities in India? StevenJ81 (talk) 14:58, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- @StevenJ81: Right guess sir. I am trying to connect it with some colleges/universities in India. If Langcom feared that the community will reduce its activity after approval. Dont worry about that. If langcom or meta want my national data or something. I can provide them. We made Hindi Wikiversity channel Here. And aware peoples about Wikiversity and Wikimedia. Introduction to Hindi Wikiversity and Wikimedia in English for this purposes-Jayprakash12345 (talk) 15:36, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
- @MF-Warburg and StevenJ81: Sir, Am I authorized user who can put a task at phabricator? Now Hindi Wikiversity got rank 3rd on beta Wikiversity with Having about 400 content. -Jayprakash12345 (talk) 12:40, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Jayprakash12345: You can put a task at phabricator; anyone can (if not blocked). However, no task to create a wiki (which is what I assume you want to do) will be considered a valid task unless the Language Committee approves your project. So if I were you, I would not open a task at phabricator. Wait until the Language Committee acts. StevenJ81 (talk) 12:43, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- @MF-Warburg and StevenJ81: Sir, Am I authorized user who can put a task at phabricator? Now Hindi Wikiversity got rank 3rd on beta Wikiversity with Having about 400 content. -Jayprakash12345 (talk) 12:40, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
- @MF-Warburg and StevenJ81: Sir, Now HIndi WIkiversity Have 400+ and 10000+ Edits. And Got 2nd Rank on Beta Wikiversity. Please Consider Hindi Wikiversity. We are facing Problems on Beta about Redirection. -Jayprakash12345 (talk) 06:06, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
I have been working closely with Benoit Rochon, president of Wikimedia Canada, to try to get the Wikipedia Test project in Atikamekw ready for approval. Benoit has now reported the following on my Incubator talk page, which I have confirmed independently:
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- Bonjour Steven. Thank you for your advice. Blog post has been published by WMF. Also Radio-Canada did an interview about Atikamekw project. It's really cool how things are going well. Now I want to give you a clear overview where we are, since they announced at Radio-Canada that Wikipetia Atikamekw will be launch on 21 June... so I really wish we/they can do it.
- Three participants with at least ten edits each
Done - Translatewiki Most important messages (100%) Done
- Translatewiki MediaWiki core messages (17%) Done
- Messages transferred from translatewiki.net over to the Wikimedia wikis Done
- Fallback language is French Done
- 100-150 real articles with content. to be done
- Translate as far as possible the MediaWiki messages group. to be done
- Three participants with at least ten edits each
- Now, to who (or where) WMCA & partners make commitments? And to who (or where) the techno-linguists certify to LangCom that this language is correct, accurate, etc.
- Bonjour Steven. Thank you for your advice. Blog post has been published by WMF. Also Radio-Canada did an interview about Atikamekw project. It's really cool how things are going well. Now I want to give you a clear overview where we are, since they announced at Radio-Canada that Wikipetia Atikamekw will be launch on 21 June... so I really wish we/they can do it.
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The one real task left to finish is to get more articles up from stub-level to a point of real content. I gave them the advice of 100–150 articles, because (a) that's about half their current article total for now, and (b) I believe there is commitment from both the authorities of the Atikamekw Nehirowisiw Nation and from Wikimedia Canada to actively support the project further. (Benoit can elaborate further.) Accordingly, I'd like to suggest that the wheels start turning on approving this project, with the understanding that the test community will work to continue on the very enthusiastic and aggressive path they have been taking. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:21, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
- Hello, as you saw grant request and blog post, we are a team : people from Wikimedia Canada, Leipzig University (de), Outaouais University (ca), working with Atikamekw Nation and this collaboration will continue over years. I am (we are) available to help the LangCom in any way, and bring this test project to the next level! Contact me, techno-linguists or teachers for further information. Thank you for your time. Best regards, Benoit Rochon (talk) 13:55, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
- Good day, I am the VP of Wikimedia Canada and I developed the Strategic Plan for the next 5 years for our chapter, and as Benoit already said, I can confirm that supporting the Wikipetia Atikamekw Nehiromowin is at the center of our efforts, even after the completion of the current project grant. It is one of three programs that I planned for our requested APG that is suppose to start in July. The project will also be presented at Wikimania, as Benoit said. The wheels are turning and they are not stopping after it is out the Incubator, all the reverse. It is our intent to use this project to develop a toolkit to emulate for other First Nations in Canada (and perhaps worldwide), and for that we are supported by university teachers in Quebec and a linguist from Germany. As Benoit said, the project is supported by "tehcno-linguists" of the Atikamekw language from the Institut Linguistique Atikamekw (ILA), which the organization responsible to standardize the language, and they can provide the confirmation you require to confirm that the language in the project is accurate. Thank you for spending time to streamline the process of approval. Amqui (talk) 22:38, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
- Press review
- English
Angelica Montgomery, Web-savvy Atikamekw communities bring mother tongue to life online, CBC/Radio-Canada, May 29 2017.
CBC radio, New Wikipedia in Atikameks language : German linguist Nastasia Herold started the project in 2013, May 23, 2017.- Global Voices, A Wikipedia Made for—and by—the Atikamekw First Nation in Canada, May 23, 2017.
- Wikimedia Foundation, What do you call a homepage? Incorporating indigenous knowledge into Wikipedia, May 15, 2017.
- Français
- Alain Gravel, Radio-Canada, Le défi de faire exister l'atikamekw à l'ère du web, May 30th, 2016.
- Wikimedia Canada, Atikamekw and Wikipedia: a partnership for the transmission of the language, April 1st, 2017.
- Radio-Canada, Ces Québécois qui enrichissent l'encyclopédie en ligne Wikipédia, May 1st, 2017.
- Radio-Canada, Une encyclopédie en ligne rédigée en atikamekw, May 17th, 2017.
- Radio-Canada, La nation atikamekw de la Mauricie développe sa propre encyclopédie Wikipédia, May 17, 2017.
- Press review
This project is on track for the past 4 years. Why is it still under review? StevenJ81, MF-Warburg, Amqui, make this happen. Best regards, Benoit Rochon (talk)
- Because this is the first month in those 4 years where the there is a 3rd continuous month of activity (as defined). -- 08:50, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
- Ho I see. In fact 6 months, considering February where User:Kinew1975 did 10 edits, but still grey out
Lol. Thank you MF-W, we hope wp-atj will be considered soon. Best regards, Benoit Rochon (talk) 02:41, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
- And, for what it's worth, excluding one month where the #3 contributor had 9 edits (which isn't 10, I'll grant), it goes all the way back to October. StevenJ81 (talk) 16:42, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
- Ho I see. In fact 6 months, considering February where User:Kinew1975 did 10 edits, but still grey out
Wikimania 2017 Montreal, submission accepted: Indigenous Knowledge on Wikipedia: Lessons Learned from the Project Wikipetia Atikamekw Nehiromowin. Benoit Rochon (talk) 14:35, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
Request for launching Wikivoyage Tamil
Tamil wikivoyage has grown big with 232 articles. Please considering launching of Tamil wikivoyage. -- Balajijagadesh (talk) 16:49, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
- @Balajijagadesh: In order for a project to be approved, there needs to be a community there that is regularly active and continuing to create new content. See LPP. An "active test project" usually means that a minimum there are at least three editors making at least ten edits per month for at least three months, and continuing onward from those three months until the project is approved and crated. incubator:Wy/ta does not meet those requirements yet. StevenJ81 (talk) 18:26, 29 May 2017 (UTC)
- @StevenJ81: Hi.. Thanks for the detailed information. -- Balajijagadesh (talk) 04:51, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
Flower of the month
Dear members of WMF Language Committee (Amire80, N-true, Antony D. Green, Bèrto 'd Sèra, Maor X, GerardM, Jon Harald Søby, Klbroome, Arria Belli, MF-Warburg, Evertype, Millosh, Baba Tabita, SPQRobin, Santhosh Thottingal, Satdeep Gill, ZaDiak).
For your huge efforts on language diversity and especially on small language projects I want to present you the Flower of the month.
Best regards, --Holder (talk) 20:01, 2 June 2017 (UTC)