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User:Who/Discussion log/July 2005

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July 2005

User:216.76.220.192

with Shanes

(Except for an (accidental?) talk-page blanking, I don't see any recent vandalism here. Your polite warning for the blanking should do for now.)

Thats ok by me, right now. I kind of feel bad, as I was the one that requested the page be unblocked today, as I fealt users may want to add to it. Of course, the same day, same user blanks the talk page. I just hope it doesnt become a revert war again, its sad to have to block pages, or users for that matter. Thanks. <>Who?¿? 03:52, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

question about image

with HoneyBee

hi, how do i make an image appear smaller? or maybe can you help me with this article about the highlander series, thanks...

When you use the image tag, you can put "thumb" and then the size, like "150px", for example. You can experiment with the number of pixels to make it bigger or smaller. Here is an example of how it would look. 

[[Image:image.jpg|thumb|right|150px|Put image description here]]

Also, see: Wikipedia:Extended image syntax, for other ways to use the image tag.

Thank you from Magic Fan

with MagicFan

Hello Who,
I only just realised you sent me a message... new to all this. Thanks for that. I am having problems with one of my new pages. I put up an article about some magicians I saw in Australia (on TV) and my article is being voted off by all these North Americans who obviously haven't heard of them. None of them are really offering any constructive criticism, just trying to get my article deleted. Quite frustrating given that I looked up all the info and had to read a zillion pages on Wikipedia to try and figure out how to make the article. I have also done quite a few edits to try and appease the masses only to get slagged off again. Could you please have a look for me and make suggestions to change it? It is The Magic Dudes. There are a stack of other Australian magicians I would like to add, but not if I am going to cop all this flack from North of the equator.
Cheers,
MagicFan

Your welcome note and Vfd

Hi, your welcome, for the "welcome note", I enjoy greeting new users, as it makes most feel welcome, and I provide a good list of links and topics, to try to make it easier to navigate Wikipedia.

As for the VFD (Votes for Deletion) on your article. I am sorry that I have to agree with the its deletion, at this time. I made a note, on my vote, explaining the reasoning.

Copy of comment from Vfd:

I reviewed all the info I could find on the subject, unfortunately, it's mostly self-promotion, that I found on the web, links on shopping sites pointing to their "unused" website. If at some time in the future, these guys become syndicated, then it may warrant an article. There is not enough information or content to support an article for a public broadcast channel show. As for the socketpuppets, I kind of feel bad, new user, getting their first article Vfd'd, and asking friends to help. Hard way to learn, but hopefully with more time on Wiki, will learn the rules and develop some good research and editing skills. I remain at delete.

I hope that explains mine, and others standpoint on the issue. If you have any questions, feel free to contact me, as I would be glad to help. <>Who?¿? 20:30, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Adding a pic

with Warlock2

Hey again, I was thinking of using this pic of Lazlo on the Camp Lazlo article. Can you do it for me, please? Use this one instead of that other pic with the description "Lazlo from Camp Lazlo" in it.

Hi, I added the image you requested. Normally, it is not a good idea to use images from other websites, unless it is clear on the copyright of the image. This one is a screenshot, so is fair use. If you wish to upload images and use them yourself, on the left side of the screen, there is an upload link. It contains all the information you need to upload, use the image tag, and add the appropriate copyright tags. Here is what the code looks like for that image. 

[[Image:CampLazlo2.png|thumb|right|150px|Lazlo from Camp Lazlo]]

Also, it is helpful for you to sign your comments on talk pages. You can do so by using ~~~ which would sign your name, or ~~~~, which would put your name and timestamp, like the one at the end of my comments.

If you have any other questions, feel free to ask. <>Who?¿? 20:45, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

    • Thanks again. Yeah, I'm new to Wikipedia, so this is my first time around here. Once again, thanks for the help. --Warlock2 21:02, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen

with Jnc

Hi, I wondered why this wansnt showing up on my watchlist. It has been blocked since 20 June. I think some of the dispute has died down, and request you remove the protection. Thanks <>Who?¿? 04:33, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Done. Noel (talk) 18:15, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi, thanks for the unprotection, of course, my luck, the same user went back to blanking the talk page, I already reported it on WP:AIV. Just thought I would let you know, I kinda feel bad now :) . <>Who?¿? 03:21, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for doing the category moving/renaming

with Wernher

...of Category:Individual computers into Category:One-of-a-kind computers. :-) In that regard, I wondered if you could please point me towards the particular wikibot (code) carrying out the traversing of the categorized articles and the category marker replacements? I'm trying to learn wikibot programming (eventually hoping to 'graduate' to a higher level of existence as a Wikipedian), so a concrete example would come in handy. Thanks, --Wernher 03:12, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Not a problem, I have a "thing" for organizing cat's :) <>Who?¿?

I actually do not run a bot yet. I have considered it, just have not got around to doing so. See Wikipedia:Bots, it is full of resources of bots, code, and the bots that are currently running. Most of the users on there may be able to help you better. Also, see: pywikipediabot, it is the software that most users use. Hope that helps. <>Who?¿? 03:17, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

    • Thanks! Pointed me in the right direction. --Wernher 03:27, 11 July 2005 (UTC)

Template:Steven Spielberg's films

with Dragons flight

As the result of a dispute over its previous TFD, the template showing Spielberg's films has been folded into a discussion of similar templates and renominated for deletion. I am contacting everyone who voted on the original TFD so that they will have another chance to make sure their opinion is heard.

The new vote is here.

Dragons flight 01:32, July 11, 2005 (UTC)

On first?

with Radiant

I'm sure you get this a lot, but please read the recent talk page exchange between me and Howabout1 :) Radiant_>|< 20:56, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
Ok. I'll do that in a second. By the way, I knew I've welcomed a few people, but who told you about my welcoming? Howabout1 Talk to me! 20:44, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
What, I asked you who, not if a specific person did. Was it user:Who? Howabout1 Talk to me! 20:51, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
    • Indeed. And what's on second. :) Radiant_>|< 20:54, July 10, 2005 (UTC)
      • I Don't Know's on third.
Nope, actually first time on Wiki :) too funny. <>Who?¿? 23:54, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Moving pages

with Category

Hi, please see Wikipedia:Naming conventions before moving any more pages. The pages you are moving have been established for some time. In addition, you are creating them with all caps and special characters in the name. This is not a standard practice, and should be avoided in general. Thank you. <>Who?¿? 13:43, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Sorry, those names are registered trademarks. Category 13:52, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

I understand that, and it is stated on the article. It is just better to keep special characters (©) and all capital titles from title names, as it makes searching and using the article easier. The articles were actually created some time ago, and have been edited many times. Moving pages can be a big deal, sometimes it is better to mention it on the talk page or list it on Wikipedia:Requested moves if you feel it must be renamed/moved. Thanks for your contributions though. <>Who?¿? 13:58, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Stubs

with Mr. Delayer

Hi, thanks for contributing. I just wanted to let you know that there are different stub types, to help categorize the articles that need work properly. You can see a list of them different types here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types. Thanks again. <>Who?¿? 10:30, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Requests

with User talk:172.144.248.31 a reply to Category talk:Wikipedia requested images

I would like to request a page showing, in-depth, how to make a request for things, as I cannot figure it out. Move this to wherever is appropriate. 08:30, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Template talk:Lived

with Docu

you just listed it there stating nothing links to it !

I did not mean it in that manner, I meant no articles link to it, as to say it's not in use. To list to identical templates on the talk page, even though one is a redirect, is pointless. Users may end up using Template:Lifespan instead of Template:Lifetime. Rather than have them use a template that redirects to another template, I removed it from the documentation. Even if Template:Lifespan does not get deleted, it really shouldn't be listed as usage if it only redirects to the one listed next to it. <>Who?¿? 06:53, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

I generally agree with your reasoning (e.g. suggest to use {{disambig}}, but not {{dab}} which redirects), but as it's a usage with "subst:", it doesn't matter. Obviously, if it ends up being deleted, we can remove it. -- User:Docu

I had already made a note on the talk page, before I realized you replied. I don't think it will get deleted, as i forgot about Redirects are cheap. Maybe using the example you have above, instead of suggesting use of both, would be more appropriate. Thanks. <>Who?¿? 07:06, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Major cities in North Dakota

with Alexwcovington

  • :I have to agree with Gene; that statement was dense. A little more background below. --Alexwcovington (talk) 05:00, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Although you recanted your statement, I still had time to read it. As I stated on the CFD, I have not been disruptive, rude or demeaning to anyone on Wiki. My comment was just to lighten the mood on Cfd, as it can be a tedious process when working with so many categorization schemes. It had nothing to do with my vote in general, and I usually always comment on my vote when I feel there is more to be said about the discussion. I realize that it may seem personal to some people, especially if you have any invested interest in the category in question, if I had meant it to be a sly comment, I would have not included the ( ;) ) smiley. I did not mean for the vote to not be taken seriously as per the coment I made. I am now going to read the message you left me earlier and go back through your proposals, I just wanted to get this part over with first. Thank you. <>Who?¿? 06:06, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Please forgive my original comment. I had yet to make a decision how to proceed under the circumstances, and my first instincts were to get defensive. --Alexwcovington (talk) 06:08, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Hi, I do not personally hold anything against you for the comment, and understand that it was a defensive gesture, as was the reasoning for its removal. I hope that I did not offend you further by responding to it.

As for the current Cfd, I just added a comment about the reasoning behind my decision. It was more on keeping a standard structure in the current schema of Category:Cities in the United States. The "Major" part is ambiguous, and could lead people to add/remove cities to it in the future, for what the y "feel" is major. I have no objection to the design of the template, and feel it does a good job at dividing the sections. Just don't feel that a sub-cat is warranted at this time, for just large and small cities. I am not an expert, just trying to keep a uniform and disambiguous category structure.

Thank you for your responses and understanding. <>Who?¿? 06:26, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

I can understand your comment at CFD, but I'd raise issue with the idea that there is no differentiation between city sizes. Most other states also have Towns in [state] and Villages in [state]. North Dakota, however, does not have this luxury, so this is an attempt to get back the same type of differentiation that other states have. --Alexwcovington (talk) 06:28, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Ahh, I did miss seeing that in Category:Cities in the United States, I had to go back and look, and I do recall a previous Cfr on villages. I see your reasoning in the subdivisions. I would suggest renaming it "Large cities" and will adjust my comments on the Cfr. This way it will accomplish the same thing and get rid of the disambiguaty. <>Who?¿? 06:33, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Large cities in North Dakota

I wouldn't mind a rename for the category, as long as something similar can be found acceptable. --Alexwcovington (talk) 06:54, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Quick Question

with Warlock2

  • (note, user added then removed question, probably accidentally)

In the Camp Lazlo series, is the voice of Raj suppose to be Rob Paulsen or Jeff Bennett? Thanks.

Hi, I see you were about to leave me a message, but reverted it. I am not quite sure about Camp Lazlo, but you can find out more at Cartoon Network Camp Lazlo Hope that helps. <>Who?¿? 04:52, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Category:Cartoon Cartoons

with User talk:24.30.157.246

Category:Hanna-Barbera and Cartoon Network Studios cartoons and characters

Please stop moving articles to Category:Hanna-Barbera and Cartoon Network Studios series and characters as the current category Category:Hanna-Barbera and Cartoon Network Studios cartoons and characters is up for Cfr. Thank you. <>Who?¿? 01:42, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Category:People by surname

with Kbdank71

Hi again. I removed the Cfr I placed on Category:Sobieski, as it seemed the consensus was to keep it, as a royalty family, part of one of my original exceptions. I am not sure what to do about Category:Howard, as there was comments on it being nobility and not royality, and no further comments on keep or delete. Any suggestions? Thanks <>Who?¿? 23:46, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
  • You know, I remembered that this morning. I don't have a problem with leaving Sobieski and Howard, since there were reservations on deleting them. --Kbdank71 16:16, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
    • k, I removed the Cfr on Howard. Thanks again. <>Who?¿? 23:57, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Bank of Wikipedia Employee7

'with Hadal

You're quite welcome; seems he's come back already as Bank of Wikipedia Employee9, but he was only able to get one edit through. I hesitated at reverting your talk page, but figured it best to do so considering its misleading content. (I see you keep a log of all convos anyway; that's a good idea.) Cheers, -- Hadal 9 July 2005 08:30 (UTC)

User talk:Who

with Bank of Wikipedia Employee7

  • (You have been blocked because you have been judged as role account)

Bank of Wikipedia Employee7 9 July 2005 08:16 (UTC)

Please refrain from leaving such non-sense on my talk page. Thank you. <>Who?¿? 9 July 2005 08:20 (UTC)

Cinema → Film actors

with RedWolf on CanisRufus talk

  • Hi, thanks for the bot assistance. Is there anyway to have CanisRufus keep the alphabetic name sorting portion.. ie [[Category:Film actors|Bledel, Alexis]], or do we have to re-edit all of them. Oh, I just seen you did that particular one. Thanks for the help again. <>Who?¿? 8 July 2005 17:42 (UTC)
Yea, I noticed this myself after monitoring the bots changes. There seems to be a bug in the bot code where it doesn't keep the category sort key. I have manually applied the sort key to all the articles the bot changed. I have stopped the bot from making further changes and looks like another bot will need to continue this task due to a technical issue in trying to fix the problem. RedWolf July 8, 2005 18:32 (UTC)
I appreciate the earlier assistance though, some is better than none ;). <>Who?¿? 9 July 2005 06:41 (UTC)

User:Michael999

with Mel Etitis

  • Could you supply proper diffs for your 3RR report? You've instead provided links to four versions of the article, which isn't very helpful. To provide a diff, go into the page history, select the two versions between which the reversion was made, compare them, and record the URL (as, for example: 09:50, 7 July 2005). --Mel Etitis (Μελ Ετητης) 7 July 2005 20:46 (UTC)
Sorry about that, doing it now. Thanks. <>Who?¿? 7 July 2005 20:50 (UTC)
Done. Thanks for the heads up, rather than ignoring the malformed request. <>Who?¿? 7 July 2005 20:58 (UTC)


Vandalism

with Michael999

with Linnea

  • Hey, I wonder, could you help me with picture Image:Within Temptation.jpg with is clearly copyrighted. I just tagget it to be copyvio, but then I realized that this may not be the right tag fot this picture. You have here so much tags that it's pain to try find property tag. :) Linnea 7 July 2005 11:40 (UTC)
  • Hi, not a problem, for copyrighted images, you will find them at copyright violations. I have updated the tag for you, you were close, instead of {{copyvio}}, for images you would use {{imagevio}}. Then you add a note to the users talk page, directions for this are listed on the copyright page I mentioned above. Hope that is helpful. <>Who?¿? 7 July 2005 11:52 (UTC)

Image:Methos002.jpg

with HoneyBee

  • I'm still new at this submitting any kind of articles. How do I put a copyright on most pics I submitted? And will people will editing too, because I certainly hopes so. Thank you.

Hi, it is fairly simple. You can see the copyright tags here, and then you return to the image you uploaded, Edit the image, just like you edit a normal article. If the image happens to be a screenshot, then you can use {{screenshot}}, all of these tags are listed on the copyright tags page.

If you would like to see all the images that you uploaded, you can do that by clicking My contributions at the top of the page, and it will show you all the articles/images you have worked on.

Other editors may add tags to your images, if they do not know where the image came from; such as {{unverified}} or {{no source}}. You can remove those tags, if you replace them with the appropriate tag, a URL may be helpful too. If you are not sure which tag to use, provide the URL of where you got the image, and use {{fair use}} tag.

Hope that helps, feel free to ask any more questions. <>Who?¿? 7 July 2005 08:47 (UTC)

Images

with Copperchair

  • I just provided the licensing information. Thanks for the heads-up. Copperchair 7 July 2005 05:02
  • Image:Emperor Palpatine DVD Empire Strikes Back.jpg does not have any information on its page about the source of the image. Copperchair 7 July 2005 05:00 (UTC)
It looks as though it was a screenshot, I think the same is about Image:The Emperor.JPG. Not a problem, just wanted to let you know about proper tagging. Thanks for the response. <>Who?¿? 7 July 2005 05:10 (UTC)

Editing users talk pages

Hi again. Its not really appropriate to remove content from other users talk pages. If you wish to clear yours, that is your decision. You are more than welcome to add a discussion, or to edit typo's in your previous discussions, as long as you do not remove it. Thanks. <>Who?¿? 7 July 2005 05:17 (UTC)

  • My mistake. Sorry! Copperchair 7 July 2005 05:19 (UTC)

Image contributions

with PetSounds

  • Hi, thanks for all of your helpful image contributions. Please see Wikipedia:Image copyright tags, for how to properly tag your images with a copyright tag. I have added {{albumcover}} to some of your recent uploads. You can use that tag and {{dvdcover}} for albums and DVDs, respectively. Thanks again. <>Who?¿? 7 July 2005 02:41 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. I'm new here and I'm still learning my way around.... Cheers. PetSounds 7 July 2005 02:51 (UTC)

    • Glad to help. <>Who?¿? 7 July 2005 02:53 (UTC)

Image:Serb lands03.jpg

with Harvardian

<>Who?¿? 7 July 2005 02:32 (UTC)


with User:Pazuzu413

Image deletion warning The images listed have been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it will be deleted. If you have any information on the source or licensing of this image, please go there to provide the necessary information.

Please include copyright tags with your image uploads. As stated above, many of the images you have uploaded, may not be fair use. I am tagging, all of the images uploaded today with {{no source}} tags, unless you can cite a source.

Please add copyright tags to these images:
Image:Posey4.jpg, Image:Suzp1.jpg, Image:Rosieperez.jpg, Image:Moberon.jpg, Image:Brigitte.jpg, Image:Mimieux.jpg, Image:Miller2.jpg, Image:Mcgillis.jpg, Image:Jamie03.jpg, Image:Tinalouise.jpg, Image:Lawless.jpg, Image:Linney.jpg, Image:Lahti2.jpg, Image:Kristel1.jpg, Image:Mia.jpg, Image:Kellerman.jpg


Thank you. <>Who?¿? 6 July 2005 23:43 (UTC)


Welcoming

with Radiant

  • Hi there! Since this seems to be a frequently asked question, would you mind adding a link to Wikipedia:Merge to your welcoming template? Yours, Radiant_>|< July 5, 2005 12:09 (UTC)

I don't mind at all, how does this version look User:Who/W1? I wasn't sure about the wording. <>Who?¿? 5 July 2005 18:32 (UTC)

    • Sounds good! I've also fixed {{welcome}}. Would you know of any others (possibly in userspace)? Radiant_>|< July 6, 2005 11:38 (UTC)

<>Who?¿? 6 July 2005 18:24 (UTC)


with Dunc

  • Hi, I am very adamant about not changing other peoples edits, so I wanted to inform you that I made a slight change to your example, just to make the page easier to read. Gallery example on VP. I hope you don't mind, as I also left a note to rv if it was not liked. Thanks. <>Who?¿? 4 July 2005 02:28 (UTC)

What does cfd mean ????

with MutterErde

  • Hi ,
  • 04:24, 1 July 2005 Who rmv Category:Big-bust models and performers as per Cfd

Just curious.MutterErde 1 July 2005 12:20 (UTC)

btw.: when Angela Melini has no big bust , no woman has a ( natural ) big bust.:-)

  • Hi, Cfd is Wikipedia:Categories for deletion, its where categories are discussed, and decided to be, kept, deleted, renamed, etc.. This particular categories Cfd, can be found here. I hope that answers all of you questions. Feel free to ask if you have any more. <>Who?¿? 1 July 2005 17:50 (UTC)
OK. Thank you.:-) Greetings from Berlin MutterErde 1 July 2005 18:11 (UTC)
Your quite welcome. <>Who?¿? 4 July 2005 22:31 (UTC)
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