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Puerto Rican Independence Party

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 – Chris (??? • ????) (talk) 03:19, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Puerto Rican Independence Party

Request: can this be made just a regular flag graphic? I am including the Flag of Sweden because the flag and the cross thickness seem to be the same proportions -- Chris (??? • ????) (talk) 00:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: This is fine? aliasd·U·T 01:56, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is beautiful, and fast! Thank you! Chris (??? • ????) (talk) 03:19, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

James Clavell

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 – Chris (??? • ????) (talk) 06:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Gai-Jin (novel)

Request: lighten for detail and straighten -- Chris (??? • ????) (talk) 04:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:Increased brightness and contrast and rotated ever so slightly. Not sure if it matches the book in real-life... it still looks off-centre of course, but that would be a more involved fix and require more guesswork (assuming that it is even off-centre). ----Seans Potato Business 21:24, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is a huge improvement, much brighter and better than the previous, please overwrite the original so it shows edit history, thank you so much! Chris (??? • ????) (talk) 22:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done & no problem :) ----Seans Potato Business 02:16, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Screw thread profile

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 – Markus Kuhn (talk) 13:33, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Any SVG artists here with an interest in the basics of mechanical engineering? We have currently two images on 60° standard screw threads can could use some improvement:

Article(s):ISO metric screw thread

Request: Problems:

  • SVG file uses arrowheads, which look fine in Inkskape but which Wikipedia currently does not seem to render correctly.
  • diagram shows only the boundary line between an internal and an external thread, not the substance of the nut and bolt to which they belong (the diagram below does that better with shading).
  • unify with image below

Markus Kuhn (talk) 20:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: to fix the arrowheads not rendering, all you need do is convert the arrow's stroke to a path (Object Menu/Stroke to Path). --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 18:04, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

OK, I completely redrew the drawing from scratch. In this version the following changes were made:
  • All lines aligned to the pixel grid (not millimetres, as Wikimedia does not render by the millimetre, leading to blurred lines at half and even at full resolution). In this version, H=320px (which divides by 2, 4, 5, 8, 10, 16, 20, 32, 40, 64, 80, 160), and H is then 300 px. The angle is about 61 degress, not 60, however this allows alignment to the pixel grid.
  • The shading is put in to show where the metal is. It is D3D3D3 grey.
  • Fractions like 3/8H is changed to 3H/* to avoid people thinking it is 3/(8H). Unlikely I know, but what is obvious to one man is not necessarily to another.
  • All arrowheads are paths done by hand to avoid any problems.
  • The axis is extended right along the bottom.
What do you think? I'll do the one below now. Inductiveload (talk) 19:19, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Unified Thread Standard

Request: Problems:

  • GIF
  • writing H1 instead of ⅝H seems unnecessary
  • unify with image above

Both images are really meant to show (almost?) the same thing, and should be unified into a single common design. The only significant difference (if any) is that D and D1 are swapped between the two. ISO screw threads are named after the major (=outermost) diameter of the thread, which is called D. I don't know why the US screw thread diagrams labels the minor diameter with D, this might just be a mistake in the diagram. All other differences are just artists preference and there is no reason why these two images should look any different from each other. Markus Kuhn (talk) 20:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

I'll get these two. Inductiveload (talk) 17:25, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Update: Yes, these two (ISO and Unified) are identical pictures. They use the same picture here, and when you look at the figures, its exactly the same dimensions. My new plan is to use the diagram I just made above for both, and supplement it with a diagram showing how the internal and external threads can be rounded out. I will change the D's to Dmaj, Dmin and Dp for major, minor and effective pitch diameters. This will make the image impervious to variations in numbering, and can be gradually incorporated into Wikipedia's as people edit the article as the text will have to be altered. I will also reupload it under "ISO and Unified Thread Dimensions.svg" to indicate its usefulness for both kinds of thread. Inductiveload (talk) 19:41, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Update: Sorry changed my mind again. I've gone with the two-in-one image showing dimensions, and internal and external rounding. The rounding is less pronounced than the UTS .gif above, but I think it is about right to demonstrate the principle without needing its own dimensions. Inductiveload (talk) 20:07, 16 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Excellent work, huge improvement. Thanks! Markus Kuhn (talk) 14:43, 22 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Colorado College map

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 – Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Colorado College

Request: Since we're doing the University of Oklahoma map above... the dimensions are at http://www.coloradocollege.edu/welcome/campus_map/ -- Chris (クリス) (talk) 07:16, 19 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Yes, we are doing U of OK, but we are not enthused. I don't mind the drawing, but labeling. . . CC doesn't look as bad for that. I did U of OK because I thought it looked bad for the lab to have things sit there for long. I should be getting my backlog of stuff cleared out. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 07:54, 19 January 2008 (UTC) COA of Nepal is moving along well. I'll start on this in a few days, unless someone else wants it. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 19:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't want to do this, maybe send it over to the Greenspun project? I hear they have quite the dilemma - lots of money to spend on images but nothing to draw. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 06:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I was kind of hoping to hold out for Greenspun to keep raising the fee until it at least reaches minimum wage: ) Actually Greenspun is not for maps [1] If you want it take, if not, it's next on my list. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 00:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Great start, (1) it is Uintah, however. :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:24, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
ps and (2) Cache La Poudre :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:13, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

(1) You should expect me not to get Uintah
(2) Pardon my French!

But of course, the French being the most modest and self-deprecating of nations... That's why the kings are all named Louis, it's easy to spell... :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:11, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The boundaries were hard to determine, do they look Ok to you?
I have that feeling that I've missed something. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 02:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Nope, perfect, thank you so much! Marking as done! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 22:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Tooth of Time

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 – Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 15:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Boy Scouts of America

Request: lighten for detail -- Chris (クリス) (talk) 06:17, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Adjusting Brightness/contrast to see the mountain results in a washed out sky. Which can be fixed, although a close examination of the skyline might reveal some flaws. Most of which disappeared with downsampling (3000px to 1500). Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 21:55, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Not getting any feedback from the Scouting project, kind of want to mark this stale. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:00, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK by me, from my perspective, it's done. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 02:14, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is there any way (yes, you've already parted the Red Sea for me, maybe this time gargle peanut butter) that you could use the contrast of the middle image but put the original natural sky back in? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Trying another route gives No. 4. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 15:02, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Beautiful! 4 it is! Please overwrite original, and many thanks! We can be done with this one! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 15:28, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ian Smith

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 – Mangwanani (talk) 16:57, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Ian Smith

Request: Would it be possible to separate the image from the signature and then to create a SVG version of the signature as done with the Mugabe signature? Mangwanani (talk) 18:56, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Do you know about copyright in signatures ? I was thinking about nominating the one for Mugabe for deletion, but decided against, as it seemed a bit unkind, just after someone had gone to the effort of vectorising it. I don't know about any special dispositions for copyright on signatures, I'm thinking they are probably copyrighted, but I might be mistaken, unless you know for sure, maybe a little research or a question at WP:COPYRIGHT would be in order, before putting effort into something which might be deleted. Also I see the image is fair-use so making a vector version would not be allowed. (can't make derivatives of copyrighted material) Jackaranga (talk) 19:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

If you know more about this let us know please, else we may have to look into it further. Jackaranga (talk) 19:17, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
To be honest, I hadn't thought of that. But the message I got across from Commons was that if you make something then the copyright is yours even if it is entirely an image created by someone else, eg. flags. So if someone created an SVG version of the signature they could claim copyright for it in the same way as flags surely? Thats my current view right or not. Mangwanani (talk) 19:23, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
But if that's your logic, you could take a photo copyrighted art (to which the producer of the art has copyright), vectorise it and then hold that the vectorised version is free from the original copyright, but that can't be the case. This is a case for the copyright reference desk. --Seans Potato Business 22:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think Sean is probably right for wikipedia, however on the commons I'm thinking it may be accepted as Image:Signature of Robert Mugabe.jpg seems not to be copyrighted, perhaps this one isn't either. Jackaranga (talk) 22:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Assuming that the uploader of the image was correct in stating that it is not copyrighted. Signature#Copyright says that it's not possible to copyright signatures in the US but I don't know about other countries. --Seans Potato Business 23:25, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ah good, that's exactly the kind of exception I thought might of existed, but I wasn't sure, so I'm guessing it's fine to extract that signature, vectorise it, and upload it as PD ineligible then. Jackaranga (talk) 00:09, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Actually, I'm not sure. While a signature itself cannot be copyrighted, this particular signature forms part of a copyrighted poster and since you would be deriving your SVG from a copyrighted material, that might not be allowed. If the signature was available somewhere else, on its own, then that clearly would be okay, but it's unclear in this case. I suggest taking it to the copyright reference desk. --Seans Potato Business 00:52, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
As signatures are not eligible for copyright, placing one in a poster does not give the publisher a copyright to the signature. It can be used. (Using the U. S. law) Signatures are put in the catagory of simple objects like circles or stars. I have in the past been involved in publishing postcards, and have seen product we order from one printing firm arrive with (c) printing company. Not (c) Sagredo. This was on postcards using photos I had personally taken. We sent them a fairly angry letter (and no more orders.) Copyright symbols can be put anywhere, they're not always valid.
The wiki rules about cropping from fair use images use this analogy. If a painting of roses is used in the article of the author as a example of the author's style, that's fair use. But we are not allowed to crop out a rose to illustrate the article on roses. Unless we come up with someone willing to research Zimbabwean copyright law, I would go by the U. S. law and assume that this signature is the equivalent of a circle or star. We can do with it as we want. If someone wants to claim it violates Zimbabwean law, let them bear the burden of proof, and they can go do the research. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 03:40, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Analogy. If a book contained a phrase from the U. S. Constitution, and the book was copyrighted, the owner of the copy would not suddenly have gained a copyright to that part of the constitution. Only the remaining part of the book would be covered by the copyright. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 03:44, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
To be fair, Zimbabwe doesn't really have any laws let alone copyright laws of a signature of a person that the current president would probably describe in a mega-negative way. I should know, I come from there and have met good old Uncle Bob himself. Mangwanani (talk) 18:57, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think we're done, at least with the image, the debate will probably never end. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 02:29, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Articel: As linked in the image above

Request: Trim the space around the logo (There's alot of transparent buffering). Also, this looks easy to SVG, but it's not a widely used logo, so I'm hesitant to request it; does anyone thing it would be useful to do so? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 00:12, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: It would be useful to know what font is used... Anyway, what do you think? --escondites 17:08, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The original font looks exactly like Arial/Helvetica to me. Stannered (talk) 18:01, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I hate to say it, but the difference in fonts is obvious: The original "S" is much more curved, and the color appears much blacker. Can you try and trace the letters? Thanx... 68.39.174.238 (talk) 23:09, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And this is why I don't do more image work on wikipedia. The SVG's that are acceptable here do not support font embedding, so the only solution is to trace outlines, which I'm pretty sure violates font copyright laws in the US (raster is ok, but vector outlines is not). The next thing that comes to mind is that isn't not a good idea to make an SVG out of a non-free image? Seems to go against WP:FUC #3(b).-Andrew c [talk] 04:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
"The U.S. Copyright Office holds that a bitmapped font is nothing more than a computerized representation of a typeface, and as such is not copyrightable." [2] The above typeface raster is not protected. Only the "font output program" is protected. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 07:08, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
And, oh, should you figure out that this is a logo or trademark, it's still free. [3] as nothing in it is copyrightable. [[4]]Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 08:43, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's been a while since I last discussed this, but I believe we discovered that encoding the outlines of a font via SVG constitutes a "font output program" which is why there was a movement to make all new Category:Typeface samples png, and to convert the old (which was never completed). If you want, I can try to dig up the conversations which led me to this belief. I could be mistaken. And this issue may be different here because it is just 2 letters, not a whole alphabet.-Andrew c [talk] 15:39, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Surely you could just output a PNG at stupidly high resolution and then auto-trace it (which will almost invariably produce identical or indistinguishable output from simply rendering the font). The difference with a "font output program" (font file?) is that it includes hinting information that you don't get in any raster/bitmapped version; this information is NOT translated into the SVG. Stannered (talk) 16:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Once rasterized it is PD. Period. At any resolution. If a trace to an SVG results in a "font output program," that would be a new "font output program," very different from the original "font output program", and not a violation of the original programs copyright. Once things are PD, they don't go back to being eligible for copyright. "font output program" was the government's term, and I'm sure does refer to the font file. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 20:27, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

YWCA

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 – Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 22:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): YWCA

Request: clean up aging, brighten, perhaps graphically mask out the adhesive holder at the top, trim out, in short, do do that voodoo that you do so well (apologies to Cole Porter) -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:33, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Here's my humble attempt. --escondites 16:58, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That is beautiful, thank you! May I ask a favor? Would you try one other version, with the full background, just not the white edge? It will show it as being a poster, then we can decide which image would be nicer for the article. Again thank you so much! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 18:06, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Like this? --escondites 18:30, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The cache has not yet purged for me, I will let you know soon. :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 04:13, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Beautiful, would you please overwrite the existing image to preserve the image history? Thank you! :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:26, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done! --escondites 17:21, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you so much! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 22:02, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A very blatant SVG

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Articels: {{US-company-stub}}

Request: SVGify, using the two stated sources, and maybe remove the whitespace around the edges. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 23:18, 2 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppinion: I've got a couple of ideas I'd like to try. 1 Reversing the icon right to left, so the smoke and flag both indicate the same wind direction. 2 raising up the smoke so it does not go in front of the flag. (Or will this mess up a whole set of icons?) Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 05:58, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think anyone will complain, especially since it is more compact. If not, I'll let you know and/or try and argue the point with them. Thanx, 68.39.174.238 (talk) 16:17, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Prosthaphaeretic slide rule

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 – IPiAweKid (talk) 03:46, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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    illustration of prosthaphaeretic slide rule
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Article(s): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prosthaphaeresis

Request: I am no artist and this is my first attempt at a vector image. A more polished and perhaps more realistic replacement may be needed. To make it more realistic, I think the sliding attachment point for the second string (black oval) should instead be represented by a sliding attachment like the cursor on a traditional slide rule, and the bars should have a more detailed (and readable) set of scales. --IPiAweKid (talk) 06:26, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Interesting concept. It is mathematically sound. It ought to have spirit level as it would be essential to keep the lower bar level. I suspect that such a device would never approach the 0.2% accuracy that was expected from the traditional slide rule. It of course, still lacks the trig, log, and exponential functions of the good ol' slipstick. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 06:28, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you. Very slick illustration. I agree with your assessment about the level. Right angle attachments instead of strings would be very inelegant by comparison. As for accuracy, Sher and Nataro in their paper seemed to be more interested in playing with an interesting invention that technology apparently had skipped over on the way to the logarithmic slide rule.

Seal of Mauretania

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Article(s):Many. See image page.

Request:Vectorize. Please and thanks. -- escondites 17:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Here's my effort at it. If you can find a bigger/better raster version I could add more detail to the tree and vegetation. Will this work? Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 09:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! It looks great! But I didn't find any larger version... Anyway this one is (from now on) the larger version :-) --escondites 18:02, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Eskom

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 – Mangwanani (talk) 16:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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    Eskom logo

Article(s): Eskom

Request: SVG logo. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 13:17, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: EPS is available here. Stannered (talk) 13:41, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Here's my attempt at it, however, it doesn't generate a thumbnail... wierd. --escondites 10:09, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Saved it as "Plain SVG" in Inkscape, and that did the trick. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 11:17, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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 – Mangwanani (talk) 16:34, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Twin Rivers Primary School

Request: More SVGery. Thanks Mangwanani (talk) 15:37, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I'll do this one. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 07:18, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a URL for the source of this image? I'm hesitant to upload a logo without a source. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 07:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Basically, my school report. Mangwanani (talk) 16:29, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

NC-17

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 – 00:31, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Article(s): Motion Picture Association of America film rating system

Request: Can someone create an SVG version of this? Should take about 5 seconds for someone with the font ITC Stone Informal Bold. Thanks! -- Stannered (talk) 00:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Awesome, thanks! :-) Stannered (talk) 09:59, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

White House radio broadcast 1937

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 – Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Walter W. Head

Request: brighten and contrast -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:23, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Ok, I did the best I could. I didn't lighten it too much, cause then all the artifacts and grainy details come out. I did try to make it look better, but a better source is definately needed. Btw, please check the copyright details on the pic, I'm not sure I put the right one in. XcepticZP (talk) 15:46, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's great, just right, thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Emblem of the Arab League

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 – --escondites 19:26, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s):Arab League

Request:Can this be vectorized, perhaps by modifying the slightly different version that can be obtained at the flag of the Arab League? TIA. -- escondites 18:26, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Here it is. I also re-did the Arabic text on the flag and both images now have 22 links in the chain that symbolize the current 22 member states. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 22:42, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks! But what about the red circle in the seal? --escondites 09:49, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I couldn't figure out what was supposed to be inside the small red oval at the bottom, and a web search shows a fair amount of variation in the elements used in the emblem and flag, so I decided to skip it. If you can show me what's supposed to be in there I'd be happy to add it. Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 16:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm, perhaps it's not necessary, as this page from the Arab league website doesn't show it, so I'll add this one to the article. Thanks again for the image :-) --escondites 19:13, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coat of arms of Rome

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 – escondites 19:46, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Articels: Rome, among others

Request: SVGification, please :-) --escondites 21:17, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 

Oppinion: I left a message on the author's talk page, because I don't think anything I could make would measure up. I've disassembled one of his images before. He's very talented. As an aside, it has the wrong copyright. He would be entitled to release this himself. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 05:22, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Could we use this? I know that a layer of the crown is pushed slightly to the left, and that one of the 'dots' in the crown is missing. - Some of the misterious errors between Inkscape and Wikipedia's rendering of SVGs..-       19:35, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
Yes, thanks! --escondites 19:47, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's the blur filter that does it; Wikimedia consistently misrenders blurred objects above and to the left of where they should appear, particularly in scaled-down images. Stannered (talk) 00:45, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Placeholder Images

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 – -- I. Pankonin Review me! 08:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Original:

First attempt:

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    Male portrait
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    Female portrait
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    Neutral portrait
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    Building photo

Addressing some concerns:

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    Male portrait
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    Female portrait
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    Neutral portrait

Another scheme:

Also see Category:Wikipedia image placeholders and  

Article(s): All articles that have missing images - used by themselves, used in infoboxes, and other templates

Request: Most people liked the newer versions, but disliked certain aspects, especially the blue. You graphics people should be able to make them a lot better, though. See Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Redesign_of_placeholder_images for previous discussion, including rationale. — Omegatron 13:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: A few specifics of what you would like done would be really helpful at generating interest. —Cronholm144 08:09, 10 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Make them look better? There are many details discussed in the link to the Village Pump. — Omegatron 04:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Comment: I think you'd be best keeping the discussion in one place, rather than on two different pages. Also, I really don't like the most recent images under the title "Another scheme". "Addressing some concerns:" looks better, the designs are more consistent and look smoother. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 15:02, 12 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. They are less readable and less professional than even the original ones. I believe the best way to go would be a grayscale SVG theme for every category, including the "missing cover" images, in the style of "Addressing some concerns". vlad§inger tlk 22:54, 13 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I've asked for some feedback on what should be done at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Redesign_of_placeholder_images. It would nice to have every placeholder image on Wikipedia in the same style (consistancey + standardisaton = good, at least, in my mind), but I realise this is probably impossible. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 17:35, 14 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure I like the inconsistancy between the man and woman in the last set - the man gets head and shoulders, the woman down to her waist, and her pose is a lot less formal. Adam Cuerden talk 22:31, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm. It also makes assumptions as to the generic woman's age that may, in all likelihood, not be true - imagine that cutout in, say, Queen Elizabeth II. For that matter, the American skyscraper skyline cutouts are probably not very appropriate for historical buildings, which could also cause cognitive dissonance Adam Cuerden talk 22:35, 15 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What about Image:No Photo Available.svg with the outline of a battleship in the background? (It's almost solely used for old Federal/DANFS ships, so you aren't likely to have much trouble there. 68.39.174.238 02:06, 16 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I posted this on the Village pump on this topic: I'd like to see the request be small, italic, and bracketed. I came here from WP talk: Avoid self-references; my issue with the proposals is that they mix content and Wikipedia "meta-content" without enough clarity. Most of the meta-content in Wikipedia is italic, including disambiguations, citation needed, and stub notices. (The only meta-content not in italics are framed things like NPOV.) How about either (1) change "Click here to upload one" to smaller text in the top right that says [upload a picture] or (2) get rid of the silhouette and go with a frame that looks more like the NPOV, perhaps with the text "No free image exists. You can help Wikipedia by providing one."? Consider these two versions, which make an effort to be clear about what is meta-content:

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I think these are less like "...where he died in 1862. Have more information? Click here to edit the article." and more like "...where he died in 1862.[day of death needed]" —Ben FrantzDale 14:31, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Placeholder suggestion for CD

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Article(s): see above.

Request: I had a go at making an image like Image:Nocover-upload.png in the style of Image:No male portrait.svg for a 'there is no CD picture' thing. I'd like to know what people think, and if anybody still cares about these placeholder images. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 17:26, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Here's what it would look like in an article.

"Graphics Lab/Images to improve/Archive/Feb 2008"
Song
B-side"Foo, Bar... and Baz"

Opinion(s):

Eh, nice, except that you're unlikely to be able to obtain a free image of a CD cover. Unless it's a free CD, I suppose... —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 17:40, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Any suggestions for wording? 'No Cover Available' is on the original image. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 19:00, 20 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, nearly all album covers are not free. Besides, what's wrong with the current image? - Rocket000 21:54, 27 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think the SVG version is indeed nicer. But yes, "no cover available" would be a better text. —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 00:08, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Text is changed. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 15:56, 28 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]
That "Click here to upload" text... Will the user actually get to an appropriate upload page by clicking the image when it is correctly used? --Slashme 09:18, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
it would be possible yes.Genisock2 03:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I like this one. Can you make versions of the others in a similar style? — Omegatron 04:08, 13 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

I'm more than happy to, any suggestions for specific placeholders? --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 12:38, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I meant for all of them, including the people.  :-) At least the wording and colors. — Omegatron 02:27, 26 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Errr.. I based the CD on the people themselves.... --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 18:35, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Above includes suggestions for Battleships and for buildings... --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 16:16, 14 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Going by Image:Replace this image.svg towns, cameras and airports.Geni 12:46, 15 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Map service icons

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Article(s): Template:GeoTemplate / Template:GeoTemplate/sandbox / Template:GeoTemplate/sandbox/main.css

Request: There's been some work recently to improve the coordinate service list Wikipedia links to, and one of the proposals uses icons to signify the type of service (see example). They're perhaps understandable-ish in the proposed context, but at least the map icon needs improvement. Could someone draw or place something on it so that it looks like a map, while being different enough from the satellite icon but still keeping the same style? The hybrid one might need modification accordingly. --Para 14:59, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Suggestion: A North Arrow on the map icon maybe? --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 17:54, 24 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I had a quick go at the hybrid because I'm going on holiday for 5 days from tomorrow. Oh and for anyone who wants to continue this, the SVG's of this theme are available here (And the palette for the theme is included in it, might be useful) . > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 18:00, 19 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

What about using this for the satellite:   Rocket000 05:14, 27 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. The map icon is still missing though. My idea for the hybrid was to simply put the map and satellite icons together, but we'd need a descriptive map icon first. --Para 19:50, 10 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The map could have lines to show roads...

Blacklemon67: Why so much perspective distortion? I think it makes it harder to recognize. And perhaps the white street lines on the hybrid should be thicker so there' more visual difference to the sattelite icon. -- Ddxc 11:39, 1 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Ok, made a new scheme in inkscape, so they're svg-s. I hope this one works!
The second set is better and they're fine in thumbnail size, but in icon size they look so much alike. I combined the blank icon with Blacklemon67's map, but it still looks a bit pale. I guess the Gartoon style of the first icons is to use strong lines and colours? May be difficult to make them different enough, if at some points someone feels an icon for topographic maps is necessary. --Para (talk) 16:15, 9 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Ok, we'll use that. The hybrid could be the planet right next to the map.

Carletoncollegeseal

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Article(s):Carleton College

Request: Please create an SVG version of this file. -- Kushalt 15:47, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I don't think it needs to be, it is already at a fairly high res and good enough quality. > Rugby471 talk ⚔ 17:35, 11 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

The fair use nazis would probably delete an SVG. ¦ Reisio (talk) 07:23, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
i need to know what the tiny text in the books say --72.89.193.84 (talk) 15:54, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
The floating book says AI AGIAI GRAFAI; the bottom book says TO KALON KAI TO AGATHON. this is taken from Carleton College's Seal webpage --Ordoon (talk) 21:49, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

"Ref" button on edit toolbar

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Article(s): edit toolbar (not an article, part of site interface)

Request: We have recently added a button for producing "ref" tags to the edit toolbar — see Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)#Put button for "ref" tags in edit window toolbar. There were several icons already available for this purpose (see above), and the person who implemented it used the button on the second-to-right. However, it might be better to have a more intuitive icon, whose purpose would be more obvious to newbies. Any ideas on design? Thanks.-- Pharos (talk) 21:29, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Is the request possible? I can't imaging a graphic that is universally obvious to everyone as meaning "reference" the way, say, the "I" is obviously italics. Also, note that the toolbar icons have tooltips, so it's not a total loss. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 20:05, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

You could depict a footnote, the result of a ref, with the number standing out: '…ere2.' ¦ Reisio (talk) 07:28, 16 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

To avoid the button looking like a superscript button, have the text be something like "ref2" --BsayUSD [Talk]π[contribs] 21:12, 17 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]


Wikimedia-servers

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Article(s):http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_servers

Request: We should have each year a new version which is uptodate. Thanks. -- Kolossos (talk) 19:16, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

At the very least, can some of the more egregious errors be corrected? Didn't the Korean svrs get trashed a few years ago? 68.39.174.238 (talk) 20:03, 20 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: This would probably a fairly easy project if some one would clearly state the changes that are needed. 1. What needs to be removed. 2. What needs to be added. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 18:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This infos are here, but I can't make head or tail of some of the notations... Also, the heading at the top of the page does not make me feel like trusting it. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 22:24, 1 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
What would make this simple would be if Kolossus could supply us with a simple list of how many machines are each group in the diagram above, and if any of the links need to be changed. It helps if you just presume we're stupid, which, for me, some days. is pretty much the truth. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 18:31, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately I'm not sure that that can be easily discovered; all the documentation seems to be opaque or splattered with warnings that its out of date and not trustworthy. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 13:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I hate to say it, but this one looks trashworthy. This will probably end up being the 1st in out (nonexistent) page of "We wont do these..." since the data to create the graph appears to be not discoverable or non decipherable. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 19:08, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Overlap extension PCR - molecular biology technique

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Article(s): OE-PCR

Request: This is an unusual request, in that I actually want to do the work myself. I created the above image a long time ago without the intention of using it on Wikipedia, but rather to explain to a single person what OE-PCR is. I'm trying to learn to create my own graphics (particularly interested in molecular biology illustrations) and this image should be a good, simple project to start with. The only things being displayed in the above image are arrows and DNA strands. Would Inkscape be my best option? I've seen nice work with Creature House Expression. I would like to show individual base-pairs so I can emphasise the mis-matches and ideally, I'll be able to tweak the proximity of the strands, as if they were paths in Inkscape.

I would like my base-pairs to look like these:

 
 

I would like the base-pairs to have the letter sequence inside each base as in the first example.

--Seans Potato Business 03:17, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: As far as software goes, Inkscape is what's usually used for wikipedia, probably because it's free and uses SVG as its native format, so you don't have to convert any of the files. AFAIK, creature house isn't free and has the same kind of features so unless you've already got a copy you're probably better off going for inkscape. Time3000 (talk) 17:05, 28 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

  1. Welcome! I'm sure we'll be able to sucker you into joining the graphics lab in short order ;-)
  2. If you work in inkscape, you'll get very good support from the other Graphics Lab members, as many of them use it.
  3. Go ahead, make your diagram, and upload it. Then ask for suggestions and improvements; I'm sure you'll get lots of help and advice (some of it from friendly people, even.) If you remind people to explain their processes, you can learn a lot very quickly.

--Slashme (talk) 14:07, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, by the way, you'll be drawing arrows, so let me fill you in on the first inkscape vs wikipedia gotcha that you will hit: The arrowheads that inkscape makes are not supported in wikipedia, so you have to convert your arrowheads to paths. Also, I've found that saving a file as "plain svg" helps not only to make the file smaller, but generates output that is more likely to be compatible. --Slashme (talk) 14:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks for the nice replies :)
Slashme failed to mention that the nicest people on Wikipedia are on this page. He's one of them. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 05:28, 30 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
*blush* --Slashme (talk) 08:50, 8 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Is there some way that I can link objects to a path so that I can change the path and have the objects follow it? I've made an SVG to demonstrate what I mean (in this example, I had to move the objects manually to match the path). This would be a very tedious method for my actual intention which is to be able to bend the DNA strands around (in the SVGs above, all the components are completely unconnected). --Seans Potato Business 20:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]

http://www.petaimg.com/uploads/1198962735.svg

As far as I know, there's no way to do exactly that for objects - you can do it for text with Text -> Put on Path but that's probably not very helpful. The next closest things I can think of are the "Align and Distribute" and "Grid Arrange" options at the bottom of the Object menu. Not sure if that's any help, but let me know if you do find what you were looking for. Time3000 (talk) 18:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
I think it's something we might get in 0.46 - they're calling them "markers"? Don't know if it'd actually be of any use for what I'm trying to do. When is 0.46 due? --Seans Potato Business 22:25, 31 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]
Aligning objects along a Bezier curve is a sort of work around but changing the path wont change the flow of the pattern based up on it. --Seans Potato Business 02:05, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Actually I think this is done, as it was a request for information rather than a request for an image. If we can Sean back to his Potato Business to mark it done. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 01:21, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Poliomyelitis map

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Article(s): Poliomyelitis_eradication

Request: i think jpg is not the best format for a map. -- → Pepper / ? 18:33, 6 January 2008 (UTC) (Note, actual user User:PepperIT)

Graphist opinion: I personally think an SVG version of this map would be much too large (over 1.5 MB), but I've uploaded one anyway. From the vector version (quite easy to make from Image:BlankMap-World6, compact.svg), I've also generated a PNG, which I recommend be used in the article. I also took the liberty of updating the map with data from the Global Polio Eradication Initiative, since the original JPG didn't mention a source; the map should now match the table over at Poliomyelitis eradication—or the table needs to be updated :) Best, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 23:38, 7 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This appears to be done, the png is up at the article. 71.221.13.130 (talk) 06:50, 29 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Someone asked the original requester to check and see if it is done correctly; we'll see what they say. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 21:58, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Life Expectancy Graph from WRI data

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Request: Is currently a PNG, lines are heavily aliased. Could someone heavily versed in gnuplot or similar make this into an SVG, with the latest data and with nice pretty lines and without Times New Roman? :D Thanks. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 10:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I can do this quite easily: this afternoon when I get home I'll check whether the request is still open, and if no-one has beat me to it, I'll sort it out. --Slashme (talk) 10:13, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hmm, had to replace this request as it got deleted by accident some time today. I'll have a look at it in a few hours. --Slashme (talk) 18:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, due to power brownouts, an early morning tomorrow and a wife who insists that we go to bed :-| I am only uploading an incomplete job. The source data and gnuplot script are in the svg file at the end. --Slashme (talk) 20:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I have now removed the titles from the graph itself to make it easier to re-use the chart on other language articles, and put it into the image description page in a form that can be cut and pasted into a caption. I have also corrected the x-axis numbers (I had them as single years to make the plotting easier, but now they are ranges.) Let me know what you would still like to see. --Slashme (talk) 06:40, 15 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Massive improvement. Unless it's against some guideline or other, could we have the y scale going up to 90 but only starting at 20 or 30? The actual data seems to be squashed up at the top which is a bit of a waste of vectorised space. One problem - if I zoom into the graph using IE (god forbid I should have to touch that program, but in the interests of compatibility...) the text becomes pixelated as if it were a bitmap - is there an explanation for this? —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 18:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Complete?↔NMajdan•talk 14:26, 30 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's not like Slashme to leave something undone for so long. (Hope he's Ok. - probably just too tired after those "brownouts!") I'm a poor stand in for him on this, but I think this is what you want. On this page it is rendered into a png by Wiki, and you might see pixels. You don't actually get the svg until here I increased the svg document size, that should help. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 05:22, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
My pixelation comment was about this version - the text isn't smooth. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 11:03, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry, guys, I guess I should put a "wikibreak" template on my user page: This weekend is the South African Open Go Tournament and next week I'm doing an M.Sc. defense talk. After that I should be more productive.
As for this picture, it looks like "version 2" is just fine, so maybe we can save that one over the original SVG and mark this as done? --Slashme (talk) 07:48, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
That's fine by me. It's your's to save, what I did was minimal. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 04:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yup, that's good. Support Life expectancy 1950-2005 version2.svg being the final version, deletion of the PNG. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 11:03, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ukrainian SSR Map

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Is anyone willing to please look at this and offer their opinion? Is the request too difficult, or too time-consuming, or something else? Thank you in advance for your assistance. Bry9000 (talk) 20:24, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s):Ukrainian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic

Request: Please remove or lighten the vertical band in the center of the page. I realize that this map should ideally be re-scanned; however, the original uploader can't be reached. Thank you. Bry9000 (talk) 23:31, 12 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: I'm not sure this is an improvement, and the more you do, the more it looks retouched. I tried it once before, and tend to think the obvious crease is better because the viewer recognises it as such. Sorry this isn't better, thanks for bringing it in. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 22:39, 23 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I've tried uploading the new image at Wikipedia Commons under "upload a new version," and I'm getting an error message: "The file is corrupt or has an incorrect extension. Please check the file and upload again." Does anyone know what's going on? Thank you. Bry9000 (talk) 16:51, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Don't know why that is. But if you want to use it, I'll try a little more at cleaning it up and then (try) upload over the old image. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 18:42, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, please do. Thank you; I appreciate your work on the image and your assistance with the re-upload. Bry9000 (talk) 19:20, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It's what we're here for. Thanks for bringing it in. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 19:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

World population

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Article(s): World population

Request: SVGify, make background white, spell new title correctly Image:WorldPopulation.svg, thanks! -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 23:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: Well, the image is easy enough, but damn, you need it spelled rihgt? Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 02:31, 28 January 2008 (UTC) It was fairly easy to get a png with a white background from PS. I've not been able to get inkscape's tracer to do more than trace an exceptionally good black and white, and then it seems to have to be large. Others may very well be able to do more with it. Slashme and probably others can generate svg's of such things from raw data, making very nice and very accurate images. The other question is how long before this needs to be updated? Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 05:54, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know that there's any rush, what you've done thus far is great! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:09, 28 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It would be possible to draw an svg over the top of this by hand, but it wouldn't gain much and might lose little accuracy. I think it should be marked as done. Sagredo⊙☿♀♁♂♃♄ 02:19, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

SVG help

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I hope I am asking this at the right place, if not can someone please redirect me? I've created a page about Ralph Millard, a plastic surgeon who pioneerd a procedure in repairing a cleft lip. To illustrate the procedure I created two images:

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To compare, this is what it should look like:

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As you can see, the SVGs come out totally wrong. Is there anyone who can check what's going on? I've uploaded the image a few times with minor tweaks to no avail. Felsir (talk) 07:25, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I know what's going on; I'll get back to you in a short while. --Slashme (talk) 09:49, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Sorted! The problem was that different programs interpret "undefined" fill in different ways. Inkscape and rsvg (the renderer used by Wikipedia) make it a solid black fill, which is why if you want no fill you must say "fill=none". --Slashme (talk) 09:54, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks a lot! Felsir (talk) 14:35, 31 January 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Governorates of Tunisia

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Articels: All the Governorates of Tunisia

Request: First, can the "11" in Governorate 11 be changed to use the same font as the rest of them; secondly, can you create 1 for each governorate (After the pattern of the one shown above) to replace the JPEG images there now? I don't think you need to implement the huge salt plain in the SVG. Thanx, 68.39.174.238 (talk) 02:13, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oppinion:There are already maps for each governorate (created by me 4 months ago *brag*) at Category:Governorates of Tunisia, even tough only the French wiki uses them AFAIK. I corrected the "11", and made other tiny changes. Resolved? BTW: I found out that the guys at the Arabic Wiki use a different numbering, shown here, probably it's the right one which should also be used on this map, I mean, it's their country after all. --escondites 17:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I suspect you mean commons:Category:Governorates of Tunisia ;). Anyway, I like the SVGs there since they don't have numbers, which simplifies this immensely. Not to mention that I can't find any source that can back up either choice of #s. The English #s are obviously just alphabetical order, I have a sneaking suspicion that it's the same for the Arabic map. Unfortunately there are WAY too many non-vector images of the Governorates on Commons that should probably be suppressed in favor of the SVGs, or the SVGs and one set of rasters, but CheckUsage is down, so that can't be done except on eN, where I will do it now. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 02:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

All images replac'd on the Governorate pages, one question though, what's with the border difference between Image:TN-14.svg and Image:Tunisia medenine gov.jpg? I know they can't be exactly the same, but that appears large enough to be worth asking about. Thanx again, 68.39.174.238 (talk) 02:40, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I meant that category :-) But the thing that worries me is that these numbers are probably "official", like the numberings of the provinces of Algeria or the two-letter codes of US States, so we probably have huge errors here at wiki... Honestly, I have no idea why "my" map is different. The real creator, who you should ask is Jarke, but I think the raster uses more straight lines, and the vector is smooth, that's why there's a difference! --escondites 17:20, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I don't mind the minor deviations, but there's a massive difference in the territory Mendenine province, which appears to gain a new block of land from Taoutonie. I don't know which is correct, but there's too much of a discrepancy to be overlooked. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 00:50, 5 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I'm gonna see a shapefile tomorrow, it must show which one is correct... --escondites 18:06, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
The vector version is correct, here's another image that uses the same borders (more precisely) --escondites 10:11, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
OK, so the SVG is correct and this can be resolved. I (or someone) needs to mark the JPGs on Commons as vva'd and/or superseded because of the border error. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 21:50, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Hillsboro, Oregon map

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Article(s): Hillsboro, Oregon

Request: Create a map to use for this city in an effort to move towards FA. I have yet to find a free use image that would show the outline of the city, major roads/streets, and show the neighborhoods. This PDF from the city shows sort of what I had in mind, but would want less detail for the Wikipedia article. -- Aboutmovies (talk) 07:09, 3 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

  • Looks pretty good. Can you add a dark line around the entire city limits so that stands out more, remove the (text from within the parenthesis) under the neighborhood sections, add a title (maybe at the top), a label on the right central part that says to Beaverton with an arrow pointing to the east, and same thing for the west central saying Cornelius? Then, since the map I gave you is more than 10 years old, it is missing the new high school, Liberty, in the upper right-central part across Cornelius Pass Road from Lenox, about where that creek is. Optionally, would it be possible to add the state/US highway numbers to the three highways that have that designation Tualatin Valley Hwy, Hillsboro Hwy, and Sunset Hwy. I just notice Hillsboro Hwy is not labeled, it is the north-south road closest to Popp Resivoir in the lower left corner. If you can make these changes/additions it would be great. If not that's OK. Thanks for your work. Aboutmovies (talk) 06:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: How's this? Jeff Dahl (Talk • contribs) 03:22, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

King Rat

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Article(s): King Rat (1962 novel)

Request: correct perspective for straight on, maybe using http://hugin.sourceforge.net/tutorials/perspective/en.shtml -- Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:57, 4 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Thanks, that's just what I wanted! The original image is not mine, I will try and find a better one. Meanwhile, would you upload your version over the original, to preserve edit history? Thank you so much! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 15:24, 6 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Done. —Vanderdecken∴ ∫ξφ 11:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 19:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Coptic text

  Resolved
 – Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 08:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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    Aggregate image to be SVG'd
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    SVG

Articels: Coptic alphabet and others related to the alphabet and Copts

Request: SVGification without the dropshadow. Also note, there are individual images of each letter here. Could those be SVGified as well? Thanx. (Note, despite being taken up by Unicode, not very many systems appear able to display it, hence the individual images). 68.39.174.238 (talk) 20:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion: I'm running it through Vector Magic, and then I'll clean it up with inkscape. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 01:53, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I think I'll end up tracing them by hand. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 02:44, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
It might help you to use {{Unicode chart Cyrillic}} for base shapes Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:04, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Too late, I'm done. I'll start uploading individual letters. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 08:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I've uploaded the individual letters to commons:Category:Coptic script. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 10:42, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
Those are great, where did you find all the variants? Now that I've seen the Commons category, could you also do these in svg? Yours are just way better.
Thanks Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:38, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

O wow, you're the coolest thing ever, thanx dude (I'm satisfied, but since someone else has requested something in addition, I'll leave the {{resolved}} tag for them). 68.39.174.238 (talk) 18:35, 9 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Correction, sorry, but Image:Coptic Eta-min.svg doesn't seem to want to display unless you view the image itself (IE. Out of wiki):
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    Is it just me? ~~~~

I tried re-saving it as plain svg, but it's always displayed for me. The variants are upper and lower case from the PNG image, but I made them the same size. I'm thinking maybe I shouldn't have. I'm glad you think they're better. It makes me think I didn't waste those hours. I'll do the others. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 00:04, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

        How's this? -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 06:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You have mad skills, thank you! Your Coptic Hori-bar.svg has much more depth than the original, nice flourish. My only thought is, your Coptic Sou.svg should be slightly deeper on the bottom leg, wider brush-stroke, however it's called... Thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:49, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I fixed Sou. I don't think I'll be doing another alphabet for a very long time ; | -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 07:30, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
          •      ! Done! :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 08:02, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]


Union Station San Diego

  Resolved
 – escondites 14:28, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Article(s): Union Station (San Diego)

Request:Can the crane in the background please be removed? -- escondites 19:45, 8 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

What Crane? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:07, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
I think he's talking about the one that Sagredo removed without telling anybody. -- I. Pankonin (t·c) 07:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
LOLOLOLOL! :) Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)[reply]
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