Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Saintjust
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| request links: main • edit • links • history • watch Filed: 17:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC) |
- Saintjust (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Hermeneus (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Macgruder (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- LactoseTI (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Komdori (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Neier (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- Nightshadow28 (talk+ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki)
- dion.ad.jp
- Code letter: C, D, E, F
- Supporting evidence:
- Wikipedia:Requests for checkuser/Case/Krkrkrs
- Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/LactoseTI
- Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/LactoseTI
- Wikipedia:Suspected_sock_puppets/Opp2_(2nd)
- ja:Wikipedia:投稿ブロック依頼/DION可変ユーザー
- Talk:Sea of Japan (edit | [[Talk:Talk:Sea of Japan|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
- Talk:Dokdo/Archive_9 (edit | [[Talk:Talk:Dokdo/Archive_9|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Talk:Dokdo/Archive_10 (edit | [[Talk:Talk:Dokdo/Archive_10|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views), Talk:Liancourt Rocks/Archive 11 (edit | [[Talk:Talk:Liancourt Rocks/Archive 11|talk]] | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views)
All listed people have been engaging in Japan-Korean related articles but their appearances and activities make me have a big doubt over whether they're just one person. Hermeneus is the oldest editor who has joined in Wikipeia among them, and his activities were vigorous and fierce when it came to Liancourt Rocks, Sea of Japan, Comfort women, etc. Saintjust had devoted to do the same after Hermeneus was quite or disappeared. Macgruder Komdori and LactoseTI were very active when Saintjust and Hermeneus was clam or disappeared. Saintjust didn't even appear to vote for naming change in contrary to his devotion. My engagement in some of the J-K articles was after September so I didn't know what exactly was going on. However, I felt very strange about the sudden disappearance of Komdori and LactoseTI after the naming change of Liancourt rocks was settled down.
LactoseTI and Komdori was frequently accused of socking each other and the initial RFCU result on them was likely. However, they persuaded the cheksuser who concluded the result that they know each other and teach at the same school as a professor and said that their way of writing is different from each other. Macgruder also defended them how their writing style is different. However, per my experiences in the Wikipedia, socks talk to one of his/her socks as if they're not related or someone. Changing writing style can be also one of socks' common gimmicks although they can't hide their interest, cliche completely.
Saintjust begun editing again after their disappearance and I also felt odd his way of speaking is very similar to that of LactoseTI. He frequently appeared as an anonymous user with DION ISP. Through CFD on "Korean fruits" (nominated by Saintjsut) and "Japanese citirus", I sensed that the dion user is Saintjust. Also Japanese editors so quickly gathered to vote for deletion, it was also very odd. It was not listed on Japanese Wikiproject but later, I discover that they discussed Korean relate articles at 2channel and IRC.
Anyway, 61.202.37.174 (talk · contribs) appeared at the two discussion page and his contribution is also link to Eugenics in Showa Japan, in which Azukimonaka and Saintjust were involved [1]
I also watched the dion user making disruptive edit warrings on Japan-Korea relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views).
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Saintjust (talk · contribs)
61.198.209.101 (talk · contribs) (dion.ne.jp)
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222.1.40.208 (talk · contribs)
3RR violation (dion.ne.jp) account 5 reverts within 5h 30m. |
61.198.213.191 (talk · contribs)
3RR violation (dion.ne.jp) account 7 reverts 12 minutes! |
In addition, Saintjsut certainly uses dion.ad.jp and confirmed it at the old RFCU on him and at Japanese wikipedia
Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Krkrkrs
ja:Wikipedia:投稿ブロック依頼/DION可変ユーザー
（コメント）私もdionなのでブロックはされたくありません。
translation: (Comment) I'm also a dion user, so don't want to be blocked (for the fishing by others)
Besides, Saintjust, Hermeneus, dion anon 210.230.96.27 (talk · contribs) edited Saburo Ienaga.[2][3][4]
2channel says many editors access to IRC to discuss articles of English Wikipedia and some of them are also linked to Japanese wikipedia as well. If someone makes disadvantageous edits for Japan, especially related to WW 2, he or she may be soon accused of Zainichi (Koreans in Japan). I'm also accused of being a Korean in Japan (funny) Saintjust is mentioned on the thread several times because Japanese think of him as a main player.
Here are evidences why I believe they're all same person.
- edit summaries
Hermeneus's edit summary, Saintjust's edit summary, Macgruder's edit summary, LactoseTI's edit summary, Komdori's edit summary
- Same expression
all the Japanese arguments that are critical of the issue are segregated in a little section called "Counter theories," which is filled with hideous Ad hominem attack on Japanese critics.by Hermeneus
Like I said, a pseudonymous Wikipedia editor's unsourced, ad hominem attack on a reputable scholar like Kennedy doesn't count. by Saintjust
- Same logic
- it has a meaningful correlation with the worldwide 'race' of blacks.
Just because Americans do so, doesn't mean that it has a meaningful correlation with the worldwide 'race' of blacks. by Macgruder
- By your own standard the Koreans aren't even the native ethnic of the Korean peninsula because their ancestors came from Africa like every other ethnic in the world.by 61.202.37.174, dion anon = Saintjust
- Nobody is discussing if racism exists in Japan or not. Obviously racism exists in Japan as well as in almost every human society on the earth.by Saintjust
- Similar edit summary
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Good_friend100&diff=169166834&oldid=169166710 self rv; whatever by LactoseTI
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Heimstern&diff=prev&oldid=174777483 reverting myself. never mind --Saintjust
- adverb or adjective + because
These users used to say just because', important because, only because etc. They don't use while, since to
1. User talk:Nihonjoe The U.S. is very much a concerned party to this issue. Japan was deprived of oversea territories precisely because the U.S.-led Allied Powers defeated Japan in the Pacific War, and it was the SCAP (Supreme Commander of the Allied Powers) that redrew the national boundaries of post-war Japan and determined the attribution of islands such as the Liancourt rocks and Kuril Islands. Removing the info on the U.S. involvement is ridiculous. by Hermeneus
2. Template_talk:Japanese_ethnicity That's why I said "Admittedly the application of WP:NOR is more lenient for images, but that doesn't mean that original images are desirable on Wikipedia. Just because images are less likely to violate the "core idea of WP:NOR," that doesn't mean that they are desirable. For credible and verifiable images from reputable sources are always better than original images. by Saintjust
3. Having an authoritative source is important because it ensures the credibility and accuracy of Wikipedia contents. by Saintjust
4. The image is not deleteworthy because the application of WP:NOR and WP:V is more lenient on images as already discussed above in length. by Saintjust
5. Talk:Dokdo/Archive_9 Most sources outside of Korea use both names in their articles. However, since Koreans seem to care about this issue much more than the Japanese, Korean sources have printed a lot of material that uses only the name "Dokdo." You're right that most English language sources use "Dokdo" than they do "Takeshima," but that's only because pro-Korean sources print more things about this issue. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 121.1.175.13 (talk · contribs)(talk) 04:55, 13 May 2007 (UTC).
Using socks is not prohibited in Wikipedia, but if they are all same or two people, they all violated so many policies such as 3RR violation, ruining ruined several important poll results, NPOV, meatpuppets. This should be stopped. --Appletrees (talk) 17:19, 26 February 2008 (UTC)