Wikipedia:WikiProject LGBTQ+ studies/Noticeboard

This is an old revision of this page, as edited by Axon (talk | contribs) at 14:50, 1 September 2005 (Articles with disputes: Reparative therapy). The present address (URL) is a permanent link to this revision, which may differ significantly from the current revision.

This is the LGBT notice board, for Wikipedians interested in articles related to Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender topics.

If you are interested, please watch this page.

Be sure to post any issues/concerns that you become aware of.

Note: This page is for lists and summaries. Please have discussions on other pages, and be sure to add a link and description on this page.

Action items

Note: Please add new entries to the top of each list.

Articles with disputes

  • Reparative therapy anonymous user edit warring, attempting to include dubious evidence using biased sources that the decision to remove homosexuality from the DSM was due to "intimidation". Anonymous user is also editing the Homosexuality article with his anti-gay POV.
  • Talk:Transsexual#critical perspective? somebody who claims "transexualism to be one of the most horribly perverse and ludicrous ideas in the world" complains that the article is too "fanboyish"
  • Gwen Araujo revert war about whether her murderers detected "that Gwen was in fact a pre-operative transsexual woman" or "that Gwen had male genitalia"
  • Genderqueer and genderfuck have a POV warrior who really does not like the concepts.
  • The Fred Phelps of Wikipedia (or is he the "homophobia denialist"?) has once again turned his attentions to things gay. Have a look at his contributions and see if you can undo some of the damage.
  • Transgender Repeated anon attempt to make up a dichotomy that just doesn't exist; namely, that there are two contradicory definions, one by some "transsexuals" who tried to "hijack" the term or something.
  • AIDS in the United States Uncle Ed has "worked" on that one and removed quite a bit of content.
  • Ciara Usual removal of the TG/IS bit; a few more eyes to spot that would be nice, but no big business there.
  • Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikipedians for Decency - attempt at censoring Wikipedia. ~~~~ ( ! | ? | * ) 11:17, 17 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Heather Stilwell, User:Gcapp1959 is opposed to the inclusion of this page on LGBT rights opposition category, yet goes on and on about Stilwell's opposition to LGBT rights on the talk page--BillC38 05:35, 15 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Talk:List of famous gay, lesbian or bisexual people, controversy as to whether to add Julius Caesar and Sigmund Freud
    • User:Paul August suggests that Caesar denied his relation with King Nicomedes but is unable to find a citation for this claim
    • User:Willmcw suggests that Freud may not have believed in his own theories that all humans are at least somewhat bisexual and even if he did he would need a corresponding sex act to be listed
    • I suggest that they both be added unless someone can provide evidence that Caesar denied his relation with Nicomedes and that Freud did not believe in his own theories.
    • More broadly I reject Willmcw's assertion that you must partake in a sex act to be listed. This is incorrect. The dictionary defines sexual orientation by attractions not sex acts. Otherwise if a heterosexual was raped by a homosexual the heterosexual would now be bisexual for merely being raped.
  • Mashhad Article about Iranian city is subject to a concerted cover-up campaign by users of Iranian background invested in suppressing information on recent executions of Arab boys for making love. Haiduc 10:58, 11 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Barebacking --- dispute over the actual meaning of the term: does it refer mainly to unprotected anal sex among gay men, or does it mean any for of unprotected sexual activity among people of any gender? Exploding Boy 21:22, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
  • Heteronormativity User:Uthar Wynn 01 attached the NPOV tag. Problem is, s/he seems to be complaining about what heteronormativity is rather than what the article says about it. Seth Mahoney 14:54, July 18, 2005 (UTC)
    Also, edit war about a rewrite that was below par. AlexR 05:00, 24 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Anti-gay slogan User:Sam Spade has attached the NPOV tag to the article, claiming it represents a pro-gay POV. Seth Mahoney 01:00, July 13, 2005 (UTC)
    • Update: Sam now wants to use references from the Family Research Council and Fathers for ... something or other (I keep forgetting), two notoriously anti-gay organizations. Exploding Boy 03:54, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
  • Homosexuality Haiduc 03:43, 11 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Paraphilia over the definition of transvestic fetishism AlexR 04:20, 10 July 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Batman Anon deletes academic discussion of history of homoerotic interpretations of Batman and Robin, and no one bothers to revert it, as though it was dirt. Here is the entry on the deletion: 15:38, 17 Jun 2005 206.201.180.226 (Removed homosexual stuff) I do not want to get into a revert war with this bigot, I hope some people here will pay some attention to this. Haiduc 01:31, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
  • Homosexuality and Christianity
  • Gender, particularly [1]; User:Njyoder made some rather sweeping edits, and he isn't known for accepting other people's opinion.
  • The Intimate World of Abraham Lincoln (previously titled Sexuality of Abraham Lincoln; POV, weasel phrases, title and article's existence are disputed
  • Eli Siegel founder of Aesthetic Realism which promised to "cure" homosexuality. Several supporters of Siegel, or perhaps one supporter from a dynamic IP, persistantly revert the Siegel article to a puff piece and remove any critical info or sources.
  • Patpong and Nana Plaza: use of the phrase "kathoeys (transwomen) instead of, or in addition to, women", See discussion at Wikipedia talk:LGBT notice board#Kathoey
  • List of transgendered people an AOL editor with a past history of vandalism has been systematically removing three "Catholic" entries on the list over the last few months, by covering over the edits with other edits in the article. The individual has now reverted to the old tactic of strategically placing internal notes within the article to hide the three entries from public viewing.
  • Anti-gay slogan - User:Thomas Aquinas believes the article is biased against people opposed to same-sex sex.

Requests for comment

  • Biology and sexual orientation & Choice and sexual orientation, both articles are poorly written and hardly readable. Could use some contributions, a possible source could be this week's eleven page Boston Globe article, "What makes people gay?". I recently renamed the two from "environment, choice, and sexual orientation" to "choice and sexual orientation" and "genetics and sexual orientation" to "biology and sexual orientation". Clearly the prenatal hormonal theories (which contradict the choice crowd) do not belong on the same page, the genetics and hormones are more appropriately pasted together under the umbrella of biology. I also suggest that all contributions from this point forward be required to have footnote citation similar to that seen on intelligent design. This would do wonders to improve transparency and accountability as well as provide a deterrent against original research.
  • Category talk:Homosexuality in Singapore vs. Category talk:Sexual minorities in Singapore - Yep, this old debate again. The category was moved to the latter title this morning. I've posted to the user's talk page (User talk:Groyn88) to ask for clarification.
  • Image:TGirlsMoviePoster.png and the only article that still uses it, pornography, over the caption of the pic - "ladies" versus transwomen, currently. Problem user is most likely the same person who is engaged in that mindless picture-throwing recently.
  • Anal sex -- a user wants to include a lot of irrelevant, poorly written, unnecessary information, some of it speculative. Exploding Boy 19:38, July 15, 2005 (UTC)
  • Bareback -- disagreement over the meaning of the term. One user insists that bareback applies to any form of unprotected sex between persons of either gender; I disagree. Bareback is a term that originated and still refers to unprotected anal sex between men. Exploding Boy 19:47, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
  • Talk:Clay Aiken - Heated discussion in process about a) whether or not to include a paragraph stating some people think Clay may be gay and b) whether or not to include a link to what may be a website with questionable content. 7 July 2005 16:26 (UTC)
    • Now there's a revert war in process over that link in the article. Please help. 8 July 2005 20:45 (UTC)
  • Talk:Natalie Wood — one editor has added references to Wood's friendships with gay men, backed up by a citation. Another editor insists on excluding it as "gossip". -- 5 July 2005 11:07 (UTC)
    • Another take on the problem might read: One anon editor has added references to Wood's friendships with gay men, backed up by a citation. Another editor insists on excluding it as a disingenious and misleading effort by the anon to ultimately support an assertion in the Elvis Presley article that Presley was gay. 5 July 2005 11:41 (UTC)
  • talk:International Lesbian and Gay Association. Editorial consensus is needed on how to handle the previous membership in the ILGA of NAMBLA and other pedophile groups. Currently, about 2/3 of the article is devoted to these groups which were expelled in 1994, with very little attention given the the bulk of members or the aims of the ILGA. A better balance should be possible. -Willmcw 23:35, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
    • ILGA (talk) I'd like to bump this up. Ongoing dispute related to alleged links between pedophile groups and the gay rights groups that founded the ILGA. User:Lmno continues to add poorly sourced content into the article that would, IMHO, seem to be original research and NPOV - a non-significant minority viewpoint on the evidence. Any comments that would help resolve the impasse would be gratefully received. Axon 21:43, 23 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Talk:Transsexual, particularly "Requirements Changes", for those interested, also the "treatment" topic. Nick proposes writing parts of the article in a way that I fear violates NPOV (although in other texts I have done pretty much the same thing - only those were political documents, not WP articles). Would like a comment before I edit the text again; if more people agree with Nick, then me edting won't be necessary. -- AlexR 11:26, 15 May 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Talk:David Dreier (scroll down a bit, and it's a lot of reading) if you wish to see an experience of consensus that I found worthwhile. If anyone wants to fine tune the David Dreier article further, thinks it doesn't report on the situation of the 2004 election accurately, or still has comments, they would be very welcome: probably best on that article's talk page. Moncrief 19:33, May 8, 2005 (UTC)

Templates for deletion

(None)

Requested moves

Ongoing discussions

Note: Please link to discussions on other pages. You can start discussions on the talk page.

Recent decisions

Category for deletion votes

Article votes for deletion

See also archives: 2005

Templates for deletion

Resolved disputes

Recent articles

August 2005

July 2005

June 2005

May 2005

Articles needing work

Stubs can be found at Category:LGBT stubs.

Mergers

Done

I think the title "Crystal meth and sex" would be clearer and more precise for the above. Moncrief 07:25, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
See discussion of page moves on Talk:Crystal and sex.

Missing articles

for discussion on the above topics, see Wikipedia talk:LGBT notice board#Missing Articles


Missing Categories

Active Wikipedians interested in LGBT issues

  1. Adam
  2. AlexR
  3. Ambi
  4. Arcuras
  5. Axon
  6. Bastique
  7. Bearcat
  8. Beland
  9. Bluegreen
  10. CDThieme
  11. Darkcore
  12. David
  13. Dave
  14. Essjay
  15. Exploding Boy
  16. FCYTravis
  17. Francs2000
  18. Ganymead
  19. Ground Zero
  20. Guanaco
  21. Haiduc
  22. Haunti
  23. horseboy
  24. Hyacinth
  25. Jonathunder
  26. Julien Deveraux
  27. Krugs
  28. Lyo
  29. Megan1967
  30. MichaelCaricofe
  31. Mike H
  32. MikeX
  33. Moncrief
  34. Montréalais
  35. OwenBlacker
  36. Pacian
  37. Romeo Bravo =/\=
  38. Samaritan
  39. Samuel Wantman
  40. Seth Mahoney
  41. Skud
  42. Spinboy
  43. Tobyox
  44. TreyHarris
  45. Veratien

See also