Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edge Hill State School

Edge Hill State School

Sub-stub, very few Google or Yahoo hits, little chance to grow into anything but a yellow pages entry. Also no events or people of note attached to this primary school. Also per Schools for Deletion. Delete. Gateman1997 00:29, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep per Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments. Kappa 01:01, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • Might also be upgraded to Schools in Cairns or something. Kappa 01:13, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete per nom few google hits --Aranda56 03:10, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, this is verifiable - see here. Very few Google hits? Probably not. — Stevey7788 (talk) 03:14, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

So is my house. But that doesn't mean it belongs in an encyclopedia. Cmadler 11:48, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• How would we verify your house? Kappa 02:37, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete. Non-notable.Voice of All (talk) 04:15, September 13, 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Stevey7788, I think you forgot to include quotes in your search string--the individual words are mostly pretty common, after all. But mentions of the school aren't. Not notable. Aquillion 06:20, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Wow it's a school? And it exists? Noooooo way! Paul 06:32, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Per nom. Marskell 10:02, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete Yellow pages entry. Pilatus 11:06, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Doesn't even attempt notability. Cmadler 11:48, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete There is no "tribal immunity" for substubs that happen to have "school" in their title. WP is not the Yellow Pages. Geogre 12:36, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• This would qualify for speedy deletion- one sentence plus an external link- if it were not a school. Delete.--Scimitar ^parley 15:40, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • That wouldn't make it a candidate for speedy deletion. Kappa 18:06, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete on principles stated above, but also comment: please note that there exist similar stubs for a number of schools in Cairns, Queensland, including St Anthony's Primary, Dimbulah, Cairns West State School, Parramatta State School, etc. Probably all of these should be deleted. Chick Bowen 15:50, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Makes no claim to notablity and possibly has no claim to make. WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of information. Fernando Rizo T/C 17:45, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete. Usual reasons. WMMartin 19:01, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete crap. Dunc|☺ 19:40, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. This school is important to the indigenous population it serves. Silensor 19:49, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Can that importance be verified? Chick Bowen 19:53, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Even if it can I don't see the relevance. My grocery store is important to the indigenous population it serves (which incidently is MUCH larger then the community this school serves) but that was deleted. Being "important" to a few locals is not reason enough for a worldwide encyclopedia entry any more then existing is. Gateman1997 19:55, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• You created that article to makle a WP:POINT, so the fact it was deleted proves nothing. Kappa 20:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I beg to differ. Point or no, it had an equal or better claim to an article then this or several school articles. Yet everyone made some great arguments as to why it should be deleted... and those arguments can be carried over to this article. Many schools are worthy of articles, but this isn't one of them.Gateman1997 20:10, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Delete as above. --Carnildo 21:17, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep, important for education in outback Queensland. --Vsion 21:32, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep It's good in a way to see that the deletionists are increasingly resorting to nominating primary school articles. CalJW 21:59, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]

• Keep - All schols are inherantly notable. --Celestianpower ^hab 22:18, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Take this, and all the other substub articles created via links from the education section of the Cairns, Queensland and merge them into one article on education in the area. Which might actually be useful for something other than a child saying "oh look, our school has an article" and obsessives counting the number of stubs they can create. I am assuming here that we're actually trying to create a useful encyclopedia here rather than tiny, pathetic, feeble stubs about everything in the off-chance that something might happen to enable us to write a decent article. I mean, what do we have on this - it's a school, it's in Cairns, it has a headteacher. You could put the useful info on these schools in a table - name, age range, size. Which might actually be useful for people wanting to look up education in Cairns. But I suppose that takes more effort than just creating a bunch of sub-stubs which take far, far longer to look at than information on one page, and in all probability won't get maintained. After all, the time of people reading Wikipedia is NOT valueless. Average Earthman 23:05, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • The current article is not a sub-stub and is more useful for anyone who needs to know about the school itself than a merged page would be, so in fact it is saving them time. Note that it was created by an anon from a red link, so presumably it was a helpful outsider rather than an obsessive wikipedia editor. Kappa 23:22, 13 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep The claim that this is a sub-stub is currently false. Google counting seems to me like a somewhat bizarre method to determine the encyclopedic nature of a school. This is a perfectly good stub and already after only five days it's undergoing active growth. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 00:46, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • I would still classify it as a substub. There is no more information that is of relevance that has been added since the VFD was tagged. However I will note that the only development on this article (however miniscule and irrelevant) has come as a result OF the VfD.Gateman1997 01:11, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
  • We only delete articles that are incapable of improvement. An article that shows visible improvement during a deletion discussion, well... You also claim that there is "no more information of relevance that has been added" since you listed it for deletion. This is blatantly false. Since being listed, the article has acquired a reference, the date it was founded, the coalition of which it is a member, and the name of the headmistress. --Tony Sidaway^Talk 02:11, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Delete no demonstration of notability. Jonathunder 01:55, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep. Permanent public institution in existence for 60+ years.--Centauri 02:57, 14 September 2005 (UTC)[reply]