Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Image workshop/Archive/Nov 2008

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Nkwenkwe Nkomo

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 – DyceBot (talk) 07:04, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Article(s): Nkwenkwe Nkomo

Request: define head better against dark backdrop... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Resolved

Jaffna library

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  Photo of the Jaffna library
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  Edit1 by Mfield

Article(s): Burning of Jaffna library

Jaffna

Sri Lankan place name etymology

Request: In my opinion, the img is slightly tilted. Could one make the building look parallel to the horizon? Jasy jatere (talk) 08:41, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: How about this? Corrected pincushion and perspective distortions, slight rotate, noise reduction on sky. Mfield (talk) 09:06, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

nice work in taking out the frog perspective. However, I think that the frog perspective was not a problem. Now the walls are very close to the border of the img, which makes the img look squeezed, don't you think? My main problem with the original was that it seems like the left hand side of the building is lower than the right hand side.Jasy jatere (talk) 17:49, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Well, its an architecture shot and as such the verticals should be vertical to give an accurate viewer representation of the subject. Unfortunately there was not enough space left in the original image to allow correction with any less crop than this, but a tight corrected crop is infinitely preferable to a building that appears to be falling backwards for encylopedic purposes. I certainly don't think the image looks squeezed. Mfield (talk) 18:01, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

OK, I trust your judgment on matters of photography. It is indeed a pity that there is not more space left, but I suppose there is nothing that one could do. Can you change the default img then? Jasy jatere (talk) 21:30, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The new version is on Commons instead, I have left the original on en:WP and swapped all the existing uses to the new one. Mfield (talk) 22:16, 28 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

The Prisons Department

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Articels: Bureau of Prisons

Request: SVGify the seal, based on the Justice Department's one. Thanx, 68.39.174.238 (talk) 19:19, 17 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Opinion: That's incredible. Resolved, then? James1293 (talk) 00:37, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

No, nothing's been done.... 68.39.174.238 (talk) 01:00, 25 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Haha! I'm sorry, thats kind of funny. How's this? --pbroks13^talk? 07:40, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, as best I can tell on this terrible monitor. 68.39.174.238 (talk) 08:31, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Cherokee flag

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• File:Easternbandcherokeeflag.png
• File:Eastern Band Cherokee Flag.svg

Article(s):

Request: SVGify... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:11, 26 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: How's that? --pbroks13^talk? 06:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good, except the Cherokee characters are the wrong ones, and maybe make the star larger in the middle. But beautiful thus far! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 06:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Oops. I messed up the last letter. The text translates to "Tsa la gi yi A ye hli". Look at this image and match up the text with the letters. I think that it is just a font difference. --pbroks13^talk? 06:51, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good, but your last edit reduced the star size again. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:00, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

You sure? I never reduced it again. Try ctrl+F5. --pbroks13^talk? 07:09, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's a neat trick! What did I do when I hit ctrl+F5? Thank you so much for your beautiful work! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:17, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

It clears your cache. Not that I know exactly what it means, but I know it lets you see changes in images and other things if it doesn't show them yet. And your welcome! --pbroks13^talk? 07:43, 27 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Short explanation (Sorry): It basically tells your browser to go and get and render the website, even if it thinks it already knows what it looks like (When I learned it (On IE), Ctrl+F5 was called "Unconditional refresh"). 68.39.174.238 (talk) 08:14, 29 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Scout Wikiproject logo (our own image, so free to tweak)

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Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:01, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  Symmetrical version with filled in trefoil
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  now that I'm looking at them side-by side, this should be color-matched
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  Scout logo.svg
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  GGGSgreengold3.svg

Article(s): 1500+

Request: Please make the green behind the yellow symmetrical (you can tell it's not), have the hollow trefoil filled in with green (textured like the yellow petals), so that both the boy emblem and the girl emblem have substance, bulk and texture. When I first designed the original, I didn't even think about that, I was trying to simply incorporate both emblems. Now this seems like a natural progression. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:12, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ps-enlarge stars so they are clearly visible, and remove the black shading behind them. Thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:16, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

 

We generally use this logo on a green background; at smaller sizes the trefoil is very washed out. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 10:28, 9 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

I'm on it. /Lokal_Profil 17:40, 10 October 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.236.228.40 (talk)

Done. everything in that image was asymmetrical actually. Made it symmetrical and filled in trifoil. Do you want even bigger stars? /Lokal_Profil 23:38, 10 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks good. Make the stars about 50% larger; compare to Image:BSA universal emblem.svg. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 10:40, 11 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Proportionally, the stars should be about 1/3 the width of the petal, so actually larger, please. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 00:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Chris- How about making the trefoil larger so the height is the height of the FdL? --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 01:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Usually that proportion is not done, because the trefoil has no lower bulk, see Image:Sweden SSF.svg. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:22, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

This is really beautiful work, by the way! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:25, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. How is the current star size/positioning? /Lokal_Profil 19:59, 12 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I reverted one step so the stars are more centered. I think it's great, what about you, Ed? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 01:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Looks great. Put it up at WT:SCOUT for review. --—— Gadget850 (Ed) ^talk - 19:55, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Already done. Thank you, Lokal, please upload it over the original name, so we don't have to change it thousands of times, thanks! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 22:27, 13 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

With original name do you mean Image:Scout logo.svg or Image:Scout logo2.svg? First would make more sense but second might be more used. Whichever way we go it would only take a short time on AWB to change all pages to point to whichever name we pick. /Lokal_Profil 13:44, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Good point. Scout logo2.svg is the one everything uses now, but Scout logo.svg is a better name. Do you have a working knowledge of AWB? Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 14:31, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I use it on commons and sv.wiki but haven't got around to requesting an account here. /Lokal_Profil 14:58, 14 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Throw up a version of both greens for both images. Right now the dark green looks too dominating. Or perhaps a shade in btwn the two would be best. — Rlevse • Talk • 02:29, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Lokal, please make a lighter green version of Image:Scout logo3.svg and upload it over Image:Scout logo.svg. Please also make a darker green, textured version of your Image:GGGSgreengold.svg. The reason I ask you to upload is that we don't want so many variants at Commons. A light one and a dark one of each are enough. Thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:56, 15 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Changed the colour and uploaded as Image:Scout logo.svg. Did you want me to make any edits to Image:GGGSgreengold.svg as well? /Lokal_Profil 12:42, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Please, can you make a darker, textured variant of Image:GGGSgreengold.svg for comparison? Thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 17:05, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Done. Do you want the gold textured (and darker) as well? /Lokal_Profil 19:25, 18 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's great! Right now this is being chewed on at the Scouting Project. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 07:25, 20 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Ramba (comics)

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Article(s): Ramba (comics)

Request: This 8-panel comic strip is not only a bit graphic content-wise but is too busy for the infobox. Please pull the 4th frame out as a solo. That is, the second row down and on the right side showing the protagonist firing a weapon with the words STU-TU-TUNF. If this could be made a single frame as well as improved, a bit sharper and any other clean-up it would be super-duper! We'll use the 8-panel version further down in the article. Thank you!!!! -- Banjeboi 10:48, 24 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

• Is there something I've done wrong or not explained? -- Banjeboi 22:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
  • Nope, it just happens that like everyone else here we're volunteers. Since no graphist has decided to take on this task as of yet, it is incomplete. Since this seems like a fairly simple crop job you may be interested in trying the crop yourself. We have a list of free image software that our graphists recommend here. Hope this message is helpful. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 22:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm technically challenged so even a simple crop and clean is beyond my means at the moment. Thank you, for responding - usually the lab is quite fast so I was surprised this wasn't dealt with already. Any help appreciated. -- Banjeboi 02:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Made a crop, problem is that the original is at a very low resolution so a detail such as the 4th frame has an even lower resolution. /Lokal_Profil 17:47, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's perfect! We're using it in an infobox so it's much better than what we had. Thank you so much!

Lemur range map template

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  SVG image of Madagascar with rivers and provinces (main map for template)
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  SVG blank map of the world (with Antarctica), used in the corner of the final template
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  Sample target image: target should look something like this, without the rest of Africa (details below)

Article(s): (template for...) Ring-tailed Lemur, Ruffed Lemur, and eventually all lemur pages

Request: I would like a (simple?) attractive template that I can color in to create range maps for all lemur species. The world map (BlankMap-World6.svg) can be placed in any corner of a larger Madagascar map (Madagascar_Locator.svg), extending the image if needed. I'd actually prefer a landscape orientation, similar to the sample target image (LocationMadagascar.svg). To me, it makes the most sense to extend the Madagascar map to the right (east), into the Indian Ocean, so that there's no overlap with the ___location of Africa. I just need enough room for a legend (if needed). I would also like the box drawn around Madagascar on the world map, as shown in the sample target image. SVG is perferred, although I will graciously accept a very high resolution PNG file. And unless better reasons can be given, I would prefer to follow the standard color conventions from WP:WPMAP. Thank you for your time. –Visionholder (talk) 06:15, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

After many hours of playing around with Inkscape, I think I've figured out how to do this. I've created my template:

 

(Unfortunately, 20 minutes after uploading the SVG image it is still not showing up in my web browser. The image looks fine in Inkscape on my computer, so I'm assuming the server will eventually reflect the download properly.) Anyway, if it looks like I've figured out what I'm doing, just mark this as done. My only concern was the importing of the world map, which seemed to only be possible from a PNG file, not a SVG. –Visionholder (talk) 11:21, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Visionholder, the SVG is trying to refer to a file on your local hard drive. Something called "BlankMap-World6.png" - Just download "BlankMap-World6.svg" as an SVG and then include it in the file and you'll be set. ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 17:46, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

My problem is that when I import the SVG file in Inkscape, it imports as a large, solid black image in the shape of the map it's supposed to be. If I import it as a PNG, it imports the map correctly. Am I doing something wrong? Also, what is the best way to import one SVG file into another so that I don't have problems with the images referring to files on my hard drive? (Btw, I uploaded my PNG file in case anyone wants to use it.) –Visionholder (talk) 18:50, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I found out I had to embed the PNG file, not import it. Unfortunately, there appears to be no way to embed another SVG file... which I think is pretty dumb. Otherwise, I think the template is ready. (Let me know if you disagree or have other suggestions.) Thanks for letting me waste your request space as I taught myself how to use Inkscape to solve my own problems. Your feedback was very helpful. –Visionholder (talk) 19:49, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

One last thing—If there is any way to embed a SVG file into another, please let me know. In the graphic I made above, the world map is grainy when resized, whereas the rest of the image looks great. Any suggestions on how to improve it would be greatly appreciated. –Visionholder (talk) 21:40, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

To import an SVG file into another in Inkscape, open the first file, then go to File->Import and choose the second file. In this case you saw only a black oval because the world map uses a style sheet which you can find at the top of the document in the <style></style> block. Normally inkscape only uses inline style, however it can understand a style sheet and class references just fine, but it will not write to them. Thus when you import one file into another, the style sheet is lost, only inline style is kept, which means the class references were invalid for the new document. For example you have class="landxx coastxx fr re", but you have no style sheet defining these classes, so the colours just default to black. You have to manually copy the contents of the style block across to the second file using a text editor like notepad. Jackaranga (talk) 23:07, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was just writing a reply but you were faster. Did not know about this style sheet issues, but I noticed that I don't get this black oval when I first open the world map and then import the Madagascar map. Why is that? @Visionholder: Since the world map you are using is rather large and appears only in the final map to locate the island, it might be better to use a smaller world map like one of those here. Maybe this section should be moved to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Maps ? bamse (talk) 23:20, 30 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you very much for your time, help and explantions. Before I had seen that Jackaranga had fixed the map template, I downloaded a new, smaller blank world map and imported that instead. After lots of consideration, I decided to keep Jackaranga's update. Having learned to move content from one SVG to another via a text editor, I have gone on to fix my first range map without any complications.  :-) If you would like to see this template's first use (in case you take pride in that kind of thing), just visit Ring-tailed Lemur. Best wishes. –Visionholder (talk) 05:19, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

I was just to suggest copy & paste. Not sure if it works, but it would be worth trying. :) ---J.S (T/C/WRE) 21:24, 31 October 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Robert Park

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 – Nyttend (talk) 00:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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  Photograph scanned from PD book

Article(s): Robert Park (football coach)

Request: Because I actually scanned it from the book, the image came out slightly crooked; I just would like to see it straightened. Nyttend (talk) 00:17, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion: How's that? §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:36, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

That's what I asked for. Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 00:45, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Feel free to mark a request with {{resolved}} when a graphist has completed the request to your liking. §hep • ¡Talk to me! 00:48, 1 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]