JesseW

Joined 6 December 2003
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Latest comment: 19 years ago by Doc glasgow in topic Uncontested deletions

Archiving policy

I will remove discussions on here that I feel are done with when I feel like it. I will mark such changes with the following summary:'''archiving''' (see history if you want to put stuff back) If you object, or feel that I've removed stuff I shouldn't, feel free to re-add it from the history. If you then comment on it mentioning that I've removed it, and asking me not to, I won't remove it again. If that kind of stuff gets beyond 32k, I'll move it to archive page(s), each of about 32k in size, and put links to them here. JesseW 09:43, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)

The actual page

HHGG

You've added a link to the inexistent article about your upcoming website. You shouldn't have done that, because:

  1. Do not add references unless something is done.
  2. Your site should only be included as an article if it was REALLY important and relevant.
  3. You shouldn't make it an external link either, for the above reasons.
  4. Wikipedia is NOT a web guide. Don't promote your websites here


Kieff, thanks for being so vigilant, however you are in error about some things:
  • The Index is not my website, nor is it created by me.
  • It is a very useful tool for fans of HHGttG, and quite relevant to The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy page.
  • I have recieved permission from the author for it to be under GFDL, thereby ready for the Wikipedia.
  • Having the Index on Wikipedia will allow it to be updated, it will allow editors to add new entries, and it will allow editors with different editions of the book to add information about their edition to the index.
That is why I felt that it would be both encyclopedic, and generally useful.
Regarding creating a reference before creating the page, I had understood that I should create the reference first, rather than creating an orphaned page, and then linking it to related pages. If I misunderstood, I am sorry.
Finally, Kieff, please sign your comments on talk pages, especially if you are telling someone off.
Sorry about the signature, guess I forgot. About the page, if you really think it's a REALLY relevant link, you can add it, but it'll be verified later (and someone will probably come up with the same thing I did). But if it's like that, we should probably include MJ Simpson's Planet Magrathea site on the external links. Kieff | Talk 05:59, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
Since I'm waiting for a final conformation regarding GFDL status for the Index, I added it as an External Link in the meantime. I also added Planet Magrathea, as you suggested. ;-) What did you mean "verified later (and someone will probably come up with the same thing I did)"? I'm sure other editors will look at the changes and some may fall into the same misunderstandings as you did, but, AFAIK there is no "verification", just many eyes. Thanks again for your vigilance. JesseW 06:17, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
When webpages are linked to in Wikipedia, people usually check how relevant it is (using Google or Alexa ranks and such), and see if the addition of it in Wikipedia is or is not needed~, or if it is some sort of self promotion and etc. Kieff | Talk 06:43, Oct 2, 2004 (UTC)
I see. Thanks! I didn't know about that before. JesseW 06:47, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Comma, stress, etc.

Thanks for your nice note. That was thoughtful. :) Maurreen 04:57, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Housekeeping medal

Hi, Jesse. I gave you a WikiMedal for Janitorial Services. Maurreen 03:01, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)

You're welcome! You deserve it. Maurreen 05:09, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Category Browsing Tools?

To be honest, I don't know how to use what you've created. Would they be useful in creating a list showing the structure of everything under Category:Japan, and how do I use them? Or, do you know of something that I can use for that purpose that doesn't require Python? [[User:GK|gK ¿?]] 07:02, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks so much for giving me feedback on them. Don't worry about not knowing how to use them, I havn't documented them very well yet. If you have any other questions to start me off, please let me know- it'll help we figure out what to write. Yes, they can create a list showing the structure of everything under category:Japan; I'm making one as I type, and it's here. (The text list that was produced while comming up with the list is here.) I don't know of anything else that does this, or I would have used it, but if you let me know of things you want here, I'll create and post them when I read the messages... Thanks again for being interested in it; it's nice to see someone else who wants to use it. JesseW 02:47, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
Thanks for helping me. You should let all the active WikiProjects know about it, as well as the regional notice boards and any active Collaboration of the Week. I'm am sure that most of them would probably find it useful for organizing/reorganizing their respective areas. The Categories feature can be a useful tool, but since it requires human maintainance, it can also be less organized than it should be. A prime example is the WikiCommons where the Category organization for the entire project is, quite honestly, a mess. [[User:GK|gK ¿?]] 11:31, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
I've now looked at it a little more, and I have some questions and suggestions: 1) I am not sure what the "Entered:" and the numbers after that mean. 2) It would be nice if it followed an outline format with some sort of Roman numerals, numbers, capital letters, lowercase letters organization. 3) It would also be nice for each category except at the bottom to list the number of articles and subcategories directly below it (e.g. Japan: 24 subcategories, 81 articles). The number of articles is really not that important (except for detecting underpopulated and possibly unecessary categories). Not as important, but something that might be nice to add would be to also include the number of "supercategories". It's still going to awhile to find all the duplicates and weird organization under the Japan category (e.g. Category:Japanese atheletes and Category:Japanese sportspeople). Again, thank you. [[User:GK|gK ¿?]] 14:24, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thank you for creating the list and graphic. It's looking much better now. I do have one suggestion, and one request. First, the suggestion: You probably should have a couple of more characters of offset per level just so that each level is easier to recognize, or, instead of using all numbers, do a hierachy of ordering like most outline programs, so that one level is Roman numerals, the next is capital letters, then numbers, then lower case letters, etc. I.A.1.a....

Now the request: Even though I'm still digesting the info on Category:Japan, could you also create a list for Category:Stub categories (which should be much smaller than the one for Japan)? gK ¿? 03:40, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Wikipedia namespace

Thank you for your kind words. Cleaning neglected areas of the Wikipedia (like this one) produces a satisfaction not unlike that of cleaning a very dirty room. You can see a big difference after you've finished, and thus feel you've accomplished something. I guess that's why I'm doing it. 8) -- Beland 01:57, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Wikification is tedious. You have to check sources... all that stuff. The purpose of the wikification wikiproject is to gather a group of people that will keep the Articles that Need to be Wikified category short. Wanna join? Shanedidona 30 June 2005 15:24 (UTC)

Well, I often do wikification (i.e. putting links, paragraphing, bolding the subject, etc.) already - if you want to set up a list of people who work on this, OK, I'd be on that - you could put it at Category_talk:Articles_that_need_to_be_wikified, rather than making a seperate WikiProject, unless there's more to it than just people who often work on wikifying. But I'm glad to see more people working on that subject. JesseW 30 June 2005 21:03 (UTC)

Live Preview

Hi, Jesse. Thanks for your patches! I'll put it in the source and ask an admin to update it. As you have read, I am no longer working on Live Preview, mostly because I had an accident with my HD in which I lost the latest, better version (I was mid-way to some rather large improvements and thus got very frustrated when it was all gone), but also because of the other, better, parser (works only in Mozilla AFAIK). I might, however, get back to work on it someday, if I see there could still be a need for it in the future. Best regards, Pilaf 22:43, 12 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

BTW, I forgot to mention, since I used a "packed" version of the code for actual use (a very bad decission) I've lost the source code in commented, human-readable form. I read on the talk page that you have a semi-commented version, did you make that with the packed source? I'm certainly interested in having that since I the original source code is nowhere to be found. If you have, could you send it to pfayolle at gmail dot com? Thanks again, Pilaf 22:58, 12 July 2005 (UTC)Reply
I'm so sorry to hear you had a HD problem. That sucks. Thanks for the link to the other parser - oddly it seems to be stalled too, also for a non-technical reason (he broke his arm), and isn't releasing code since it's for an disertation. Live Preview does work, though, and I will am using it happily. I will probably keep sending it patches, hope you don't mind. JesseW 23:09, 12 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

Category_talk:Dialogues_of_Plato

Hi, I was wondering if we could continue executing the work on the naming of the Platonic dialogues. Pretty much nothing's happened for almost two weeks. Thanks! --Girolamo Savonarola 06:05, 13 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

I'm baffled by the discussion (at the momment) but that's probably because it's late at night and I'm tired right now. I'll look at it again when I am less tired and see if I can make a coherent comment at that point. I would suggest (if you haven't already) that you ask Francis to comment on your objections, and explain how your way would solve the problem he mentions with regards to The Lovers being blue even though it is not actually on the subject of the plato dialog; i.e. how do we disambiguate non-existing pages. (Sorry if that last bit didn't make any sense.) JesseW 06:20, 13 July 2005 (UTC)Reply
Okay, sounds good. I'll try to get on that tomorrow (limited internet access at the moment). However, I think at this point our main obstacle is simply that I need an admin to make the required article moves that remain due to moves back and forth. This is what I was trying to do with a request to the admin for a move when Mel started to block the suggestion. Disambigs don't worry me - I think it's clear what needs to be done and how to execute them (and furthermore it has already been discussed there). Anyway, thanks for being willing to step in and help solve this whole mess! I really appreciate your effort. --Girolamo Savonarola 15:31, 13 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

re: NPOV explanation

"You're welcome!" he says, in an embarassed but flattered tone of voice. :) GarrettTalk 10:29, 13 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

California Certified Organic Farmers on DYK

  Did you know? has been updated. A fact from the article California Certified Organic Farmers, which you recently created, has been featured in that section on the Main Page. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently-created article, then please suggest it on the "Did you know?" talk page.

Fatima bint Asad

Hi, I saw you relisted Fatima bint Asad as a copyvio. While it is obvious Striver copied and pasted this into a page, I can find no copyright on the parent site. It appears to have been done by an amateur historian and is clearly very poorly translated considering basic grammar mistakes. Could you provide a URl to the page that shows the copyright? I have searched this page and thus far been unsuccesful. Thanks. freestylefrappe 00:23, July 22, 2005 (UTC)

Ah! Thank you for your explanation! Now I understand what you meant on in the edit summary when you talked about looking all the way through the page. The reason I relisted it was that a copyright notice (at least in Berne Convention for the Protection of Literary and Artistic Works signatories) is not required for something to be under copyright, and inelibble for inclusion into Wikipedia. Here are some pages to review in regards to this: Copyright#Copyright_notices, Wikipedia:Copyright#Contributors.27_rights_and_obligations, Public_domain#Expiration. After reading those pages, let me know if you still think the copied text is allowable, or if you have any other questions. Thanks for responding so quickly! (Also copied on Freestylefrappe's talk page) JesseW 00:40, 22 July 2005 (UTC)Reply
Now I understand. If you haven't already, you might want to inform Striver that a copyright notice is not required. Additionally I would suggest going through his contributions as quite a few, which I have spent several hours cleaning up, seem to be copyright violations... thanks. freestylefrappe 01:04, July 22, 2005 (UTC)
Sigh. :-) Ok. I'll post the same links I gave to you on his page, and look over his contributions. I'm glad to have cleared this up, though! Sorry about you having spent hours cleaning up copyvios, though, that always sucks. (I've done it myself, sometimes.) JesseW 01:25, 22 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

House Ordos

Hi JesseW, Yes, the good edits have to be separated from the copyvio edits and moved to the /Temp page (per User:BrokenSegue). Remember to attribute the authors of the good edits when you move material to /Temp. --Duk 15:39, 22 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

P.S. this might be all done, I haven't looked. If it looks good to you then leave a note under its listing at WP:CP and an administrator will delete the article and move /Temp into its place. Also, as an aside, if the article didn't start as a copyvio then we only need to revert to the oldest version that is copyvio free, instead of creating a new article at /Temp. So, strictly speaking, this article didn't need to be re-written, just reverted. But doing it this way removes the copyvios from history, which is good. --Duk 15:46, 22 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

Aliphatic compound

Thanks for your note on WikiProject Chemicals. The article certainly needs attention as it is internally inconsistent: someone (hopefully our Organic Chemistry expert, if not me) will get round to fixing it, maybe even soon ;-) As for our worklist, we don´t list article covering classes of compounds (such as this one) so that we can try to concentrate on those covering specific compounds... All the same, we are not so narrow-minded as to ignore problems like this completely, when we get to find them (there are roughly 3000 chemistry articles on Wikipedia, of which about 1000 cover specific chemicals, of which 350 are on our priority list, of which a few get improved every month: you see the problem!). Anyway, thanks for your interest and help, and keep up the good work! Physchim62 10:45, 27 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

I understand(and a sympathetic to) the scale issues. (I'm working on the missing encyclopeidia articles project, so I know about big lists... ;-) ). I didn't reallize it was internally inconsistent - shows how much chemistry I know, it just looked incomplete and somehow odd. If I come across any other ones, I'll drop a note on the project talk page. Thanks so much for all the work you all are doing! JesseW 23:49, 28 July 2005 (UTC)Reply

Wikiprojects

Thank you for your kind words regarding this. Sorry to be so tardy in replying, I have been on holiday. Steve block talk 21:56, July 31, 2005 (UTC)

Citations

The template is used to inform editors that someone is actually reading.

lots of issues | leave me a message 11:24, 1 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

SoCal article categorization

Since you mentioned at the Southern California WikiProject that you were interested in the categorization of SoCal articles, you might be interested in my thoughts on the topic that I've listed on the WP's Talk page. Also, your Category Browsing Tool (if it still works with the recent updates in the MediaWiki software) would probably be very helpful. BlankVerse 08:40, 2 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

THANK YOU!
What a mess! The biggest problem that I see is the usual conflating of LA City, LA County, LA Basic, LA region, etc. That's going to take F-O-R-E-V-E-R to sort out and rename, etc.
I'll probably edit the list to make a condensed version (eliminating the multiple references to Apple Computer, for example) and put that on its own subpage. Then I'll create a SoCal version of the condensed version and create a subpage under the SoCal WikiProject for it. Then I'll probably create a proposed reorganization before I actually start moving and renaming things. After reorganizing, resorting, renaming, etc., then there will probably be a fairly good-sized list of categories to nominate at CFD. If you have any suggestions, I want to hear them. BlankVerse 09:42, 4 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
I really like the output that you get from your Category Browsing Tool. There is only one thing that I would like to see added, but I don't know how hard it would be for you to do. What I'd like to see is the number of articles in each category. Is that doable?
I'll probably suggest the Tool to the folks in the Stub-sorting WikiProject. You can see at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Stub types where they've sort of done the same thing as your Category Browsing Tool, but they've done it all by hand. BlankVerse 00:13, 11 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

doNextItem() in monobook.js not working in Opera

Hi JesseW.... Just wanted to let you know, in case you didn't already, that the latest version of your monobook.js (dated 20:11, 1 August 2005) doesn't seem to work in Opera — that is, unless I'm doing something wrong, which won't be the first time :) . I'm using the latest version, Opera 8.02 for Windows, en-US. Everything works fine in Firefox & IE, though.

I think the problem's somewhere in doNextItem(). I was able to get it to work if I commented it out & any references to it. I don't know enough javascript to nail it down any further, though (which is why I'm trying to use your monobook.js instead of writing my own :) ). Here's the exact error message that's showing up on my javascript console:

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gsp/monobook.js&action=submit
Event thread: BeforeScript
Syntax error while loading: line 5 of inline script at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Gsp/monobook.js&action=submit : 
ocation=oldone+"&basepage="+escape(baseul)}; if (/basepage=/
---------------------------------------------------^

It stops there, and nothing else from monoscript.js works. I made sure all my javascript settings were on in Opera, but the error keeps showing up. I have heard, though, that Opera is more strict at parsing javascript code than other browsers :( .

If you happen to have any spare time to fix it, that'd be great. And if you need any more details, let me know. Thanks! -- Gsp 09:36, 2 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Hi again, JesseW. Sorry, I don't use IRC. I did try your suggestion, but I got the same error. :( -- Gsp 21:06, 2 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Sheesh, 2nd edit conflict with Alistair...

I'm slightly confused? Who am I having an edit conflict with? AlistairMcMillan 02:24, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

I'm sorry - miscommunication. I happened to be editing two VfD pages at the same time you were, thereby bringing up the "Edit Conflict" page. Someone else(I have no idea why), claimed that there was some kind of editorial conflict over Star Trek pages, on one of the VfDs. These things are unrelated. Sorry about the confusion... JesseW 02:30, 4 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
No problem. :) AlistairMcMillan 02:33, August 4, 2005 (UTC)

Contributing to WikiTravel

Thanks for pointing out the existence of WikiTravel to me, regarding Kool Korners Grocery. I had somehow been oblivious to it. After a quick look at that site it does not seem like users can create new pages, so your suggestion is to add an excerpt to an existing page? Presumably under "Atlanta" section 9.3? Also, by the way, I subscribe to the PD license for my Wiki edits, so there should be no licensing restrictions on you moving content, should you desire. --Eoghanacht 12:31, 2005 August 4 (UTC)

I knew of it's existance, but I didn't know anything about it. Looking it over, you can easily create new pages - just go to a non-existing page, like http://wikitravel.org/en/Kool_Korners_Grocery and click edit... However, I suspect you are right to put it into the Atlanta page. Good luck with your Wikipedia contributions! JesseW 15:59, 4 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
I think the best thing for you to do is, first, make sure you have a copy of your text from Kool Korners Grocery; then, register a WikiTravel account, and post a copy of KKG as a subpage of your user page. Then, ask on the general discussion page whether or not the material would be welcomed... JesseW 16:03, 4 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

WikiProject

thx for moving my "comment". But I really was shocked when I saw what they want from people before staarting a project. For me this is one more beaurocratic thing to avoid. Number of people. Don't get it. Why is there no further explaination but only this mean one "go on and edit articles". ? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 22:44, 4 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Picture from RFW

Al, please explain further why the picture from RFW's page is a case of fair use. As it says on Wikipedia:Fair use: "every page that uses the image will have a distinct rationale for using the image on that page". Thanks! JesseW 16:14, 4 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

The picture of David Touretzky from RFW is used for an article about David Touretzky. Anyway, the image is not copyrighted. --AI 02:22, 5 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
Thanks for the response. As the image has now been replaced, I think the discussion is done. JesseW 19:44, 5 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Sorry

for not responding to your request to edit Mediawiki:Newarticletext; I was on vacation when you left the notice and then I just forgot to get back to it. I see it's already been done by someone else: looks good. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 02:10, 7 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

No problem. Thanks for the response! JesseW 17:50, 7 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Lovedale

We were working on it at the same time, but I had wikified and added material from other sources. Sorry about the wasted work, but I think mine was more advanced! David Brooks 06:23, 9 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Yes, yours is definitly better. Where did you find out when the school closed - that was what was stumping me... JesseW 06:25, 9 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
First Google hit for Lovedale South Africa: http://www.actsascotland.org.uk/early.html David Brooks 16:45, 9 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

OK

But sooner or later we are definitely going to standardise the infoboxes. When that happens, you're infobox will most likely be upgraded. If the only reason that the templates aren't upgraded are because of complexity, we can assist. We will soon be working on a project to standardise the boxes. - Ta bu shi da yu 05:03, 11 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Oh, I agree totally. I just reverted so the page wouldn't screw up. I have no connection with the Moutains WikiProject - I just came to across it in regards to a different issue: should "first ascent" be clarified to mean: first documented(i.e. European) ascent? I'm going to wade into the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mountains/General#WikiTax, hopefully I can help clear it up. JesseW 05:07, 11 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Why...

...Thank you! A Reedie! I don't think I've ever met one on Wikipedia before now. And what's this "ex" stuff? Not anything serious is it? Perhaps we'll meet this year :) Nice to be noticed (as long as I wasn't doing something stupid), so it was kind of you to leave a note. I guess I want people to get this user-page-off-limits taboo out of their systems, I mean it's a wiki, right? So what was I gonna... hey! how did you just leave me a message when I was in the middle of writing you? Anyway... funnily enough Image:San_Francisco_Bay_Area_Skyline_Blvd.jpg was my computer wallpaper, reminds me of home. Well, thanks, and oh no, Daily Show's on already. (Oh yeah, pg. 160 and counting of the Iliad- er, little behind :) Dmcdevit·t 06:04, August 11, 2005 (UTC)

Dialogues of Plato

Turns out I do need your help again. Mel's back up to his usual blocking moves on the articles' talk spaces. I am going to try to get the entire debate moved to the old stomping grounds so that everything can be clear and consolidated to any newcomers who might not be totally informed of the history of the situation. If there's anything you think you can do to help, I'd be very grateful. Thanks! --Girolamo Savonarola 21:12, 11 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Hi! Thank you for updating the Forbidden Gardens article category from "Museums" to "Museums in Texas". Good catch! I notice you edited the external web site link description to say "Official site". I have edited it back to say "Forbidden Gardens web site" because this is the actual name of the web site and because it makes the full description visible to readers. It was me! Glad to discuss. -- Sitearm | Talk 04:17, 2005 August 12 (UTC)

You said: I've left a comment there about my reason for changing the link names to "offical site".
Got your response(s) (thank you!) and took the opportunity to try and learn a little more about WikiPedia stuff. On our topic the Manual of Style says it is better for a meaningful title to be displayed rather than the URL itself but doesn't prescribe anything more specific. So it seems to boil down to respective interpretations whether "Official site" or "Forbidden Gardens web site" are equally or differently meaningful for this link (or whether another title would be even better). My personal policy is to put the name of the organization in the link title when it is their web page, and I would not say "official site" unless the organization itself uses that label (which I have seen, for example, for "official" author and actor web sites where there are a lot of competing fan sites). In this case, the organization in question would probably LOVE to have the problem of competing fan sites (joke). -- Sitearm | Talk 00:04, 2005 August 13 (UTC)

Sicilian School

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. The English 'pedia is big and sometimes you just don't know where to ask your questions. If you have more suggestions on how to clean up the Sicilian School or there is anything I can help you with, feel free to drop in! --Wikipedius 17:18, 12 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Page vandalism

You're welcome. Oh, don't worry about me having a problem with taking cr*p, I've just come back from a loooooooooooooong Wikivacation, so I'm pretty upbeat right now.  :) Zoe 20:13, August 12, 2005 (UTC)

WikiProject user scripts

I see you're pretty good with Javascript - would you like to join the WikiProject on user scripts? It's currently located at User:ABCD/WikiProject User scripts but should be getting a permanant home fairly soon. Thanks, Alphax τεχ 11:30, 13 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Hiya Hippie

Hello yes thank you. I am a friend of Pumpie's. So I am this friend of his, that's all. I'm trying to help him help all of us. Thank you hello. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki brah (talkcontribs) 18:07, 15 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Well, as a further piece of evidence, it's consistent with the rest. Sigh. JesseW 02:36, 16 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

What do you mean? Why are you being mean and mad to me? I am just trying to help. I'm sorry that I dont have any "evidence" for you.The Briz

What makes you think I am being "mean and mad" in regards to you? JesseW 02:51, 16 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

What is with the 'sigh.' business. is that not a bit mean to me? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiki brah (talkcontribs) 20:02, 15 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Ah. You are quite right. I take it back(and I've struck it out above). Instead, I will point out what is wrong with some of your contributions, which hopefully will be more constructive than "Sigh" ;-)
Your edit to Cindy Sheehan - Speedy deletion can only occur under a few, very specific, cases. The one you put was not one of them. The template you added tells people to read the page where it says not to do that.
Your featured article nominations - The Wikipedia:Featured article makes it clear that the article(s) you've submitted are not possible candidates. You should have read that page before submitting them.
Reopening Pumpie's Request for adminship - this was a closed nomination. Simply re-adding it to the page did not achieve anything. The results of the nomination were not particularly friendly to Pumpie, so why would a "friend of Pumpie's" do something like that to their friend?
I hope these examples explain why some of your contributions have been considered not good. JesseW 03:21, 16 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

How can I nominate Pumpie again that is what i was trying to do here.The Brohizzle

Well, first you would need to gain the trust and respect of the wikipedia community, by, for example, expanding a few hundred stubs, doing accurate and good Wikipedia:RC patrol for 6 months or longer, sheparding an article up to Featured status(which requires you to read and understand the Wikipedia:Featured article material first), or something like that. Then, when you have done that, feel free to come back and I'll tell you what the next step is. If you would like more suggestions, you might try going through Wikipedia:Tutorial. Hope that helps. JesseW 03:39, 16 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Ok no problem thank you good morning!Wiki brah 06:42, 17 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

So which one of my suggestions are you going to take? JesseW 06:46, 17 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Hi Hippie!! My mom and dad wont let me grow my hair like that even though I dont have a job or nothing like that ya know but I would like for us to write a featured artile together, with about this porn star from Italy named Sarah she is SO pretty!!Wiki-Clinton

No. I do not want to do that. I want you to do some maintainence work first. I would suggest you start with Category:Pages needing wikifying. Make sure you read the relevant guidelines first, then let me know if you have any questions. JesseW 22:43, 22 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Question about monobook skin scripts

Please head over to the help desk and answer the question I linked to, if you have the time to do so. :) - Mgm|(talk) 09:17, August 16, 2005 (UTC)

Thanks for the list

I'm surprised by its small size and the general high quality. I have used it to identify three articles for deletion though. lots of issues | leave me a message 21:01, 16 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Speedy deletions

Thank you for marking Image:Mnulargelogo.gif for speedy deletion for being redundant to another image on Wikipedia. But next time, it will be helpful for us administrators if you could specify the other image's name so we do not have to search for and verify it for ourselves. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 04:08, 17 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Wikipedia:Jewish Encyclopedia topics

Hi, none of the links have actually been pruned from the Jewish Encyclopedia lists, so the numbers on the main page match the article count in the original encyclopedia. As you are probably aware, the lists for most letters of the alphabet have not been uploaded (or even compiled yet). I regret that I am overburdened with other things in life to do much on Wikipedia right now and have posted requests for assistance in various places should anybody be interested in completing the compilation. Anyway, I will go ahead and remove some of the blue links on the existing lists which have corresponding Wikipedia articles to arrive at a figure that can be displayed in the Missing Articles template box. Thanks.--Defrosted 13:22, 17 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Christian Supremacy

Ah, my apologies. I was doing RC patrol and thought that was a paragraph in the article, not just a quote. Oberiko 20:25, 18 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

np. We can always use more people on RC patrol - you might consider joining the irc://irc.freenode.org#en.wikipedia.vandalism channel for discussion purposes... (copied to your talk page) JesseW 20:29, 18 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Hi,

Can you Please help me restore this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam_Ahmed_Rida_Khan page back , which you deleted as there is no copyright violation there. please see latest discussion for proof. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ahmed_Rida_Khan

Regards. (added to my user page in this edit)

List of French Black people

Some assistance would be fabulous, thank you for offering. Melesse

Thanks VERY much for your help with List of French Black people (athletics)! =) Melesse 03:02, 25 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Admin?

Greetings! You always pop up on my watchlist doing helpful admin-type things, but as I recall you're not an admin. Would you be interested? (If so, do you have any terrible dirty laundry a potential nominator ought to know about? I didn't find any myself. :-)) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 01:50, 25 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

I'd be honnored. I've been irritated by not being able to fix the backlog on WP:CP. As for dirty laundry, I don't think so. My basic principle on the wiki is pretty strong eventualism - i.e. I avoide controversial topics 98% of the time. Thanks very much for thinking of me. JesseW 02:00, 25 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
Sounds good; I'll go write up a nomination, then. :-) Mindspillage (spill yours?) 03:02, 25 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
Posted. Cheers! Mindspillage (spill yours?) 03:19, 25 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
Stated I'm aware, and answered the questions. Thanks again! JesseW 04:10, 25 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Response to your reply of my question

I thought I would bring this here, saves people reading a whole essay. I answer your question by saying "the smarter the person, the more questions they ask". Its always been a good guage as far as I can tell. Second, I appreciate when people take the trouble to find out what the correct answer is. There are a few admins who are extremely liberal with their right to act somewhat arbitrarily. Lastly, I am extremely satisfied with your responses, and I plan to include this part, at least, to the dialogue we have engaged in over at the RfA page. I think you'll do a good job as an admin. And for the record, I have no "political" agenda to push concerning inclusionism, deletionism, whatever. I just want to see WP become a better source of information. More complete, but without becoming cluttered with nonsense. As I have been saying on these RfA pages recently, an administrators first duty is to the Wikipedia, and secondarily, to the community itself. Good luck with your bid. I plan to support your nomination. Thanks for prodding me a bit too, it shows your not afraid to confront a situation with intelligence and resolution. Hamster Sandwich 00:57, 26 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

WP:DEFCON

Said my piece on the talk page. Thanks for taking a lead role in the debate. I am not in favor of it but I am not up for doing all the arguing either, so I'm glad that you stepped up. FreplySpang (talk) 02:32, August 26, 2005 (UTC)

Changing the Announcement and Goings-on page

Thank you for responding to my request to change the Wikipedia:Announcements and Wikipedia:Goings-on pages (see Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Announcements and Goings-on. But I would like your opinion about the steps needed to change the Goings-on page, its new design, and how to advertise it to the community. Thank you. CG 18:02, August 27, 2005 (UTC)

Tool

And if you're going to write it in Python (so as to take advantage of the pywikipediabot framework for the WP side of things) I'll be interested in trying to help out. Pcb21| Pete 23:14, 28 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Ok. Great. I haven't had a chance to lookinto pywikipediabot; I'll look at that. I won't be able to work on it until tomorrow at the earliest, though. JesseW 23:18, 28 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Image:Daniel tiger.jpg

Thanks for letting me know. I know exactly who I need to talk to, but I haven't had time to get there recently. Go ahead and delete it, and I'll reupload if when and if I get a compliant license. Nandesuka 00:55, 30 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Great! Thanks for being so understanding. JesseW 18:47, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
FYI, I had an opportunity today to take a photo of a Daniel Tiger animatronic, and so I decided to upload and license that, instead. Nandesuka 01:57, 5 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Sysop rights

Congratulations on your adminship. If you need and help or advice, don't hesitate to ask me, or any of the other Admins and Bureaucrates. Uncle Ed 17:52, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

Congratulations! Andre (talk) 19:09, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

re: Ysselstein

The article is in Dutch, of which I am a native speaker, and I assure you this is a word by word translation to English. Also, the images have been copied. Furthermore, User:Jorgenpfhartogs is a notorius copyright violator, see User:R.Koot/Jorgenpfhartogs. I'm sorry for the backlog, if I ever become an admin that would be the place I'm going to help out. --R.Koot 19:42, 31 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Hm. That is a bit of a quandry. Would a babelfish (google translation) be close enough? If you could post such a link, that would be very helpful. Jorgenpfhartogos is pising me off. JesseW 19:49, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
Site
een van de grotere kerkdorpen van Venray, ligt in het hart van de Peel ( op de grens van Limburg en Brabant ). Gesticht in 1921 en genoemd naar de voormalige minister van Landbouw H.A. van Ysselsteyn. Uit het woeste peellandschap is door noeste arbeid en pioniersgeest ruim driekwart eeuw later het dorp uitgegroeid tot een bruisende gemeenschap.
De kern Ysselsteyn wordt gevormd door het Lovinckplein; rondom vinden we de St Oda Kerk, de basisschool, het gemeenschapshuis, de rabobank, dorpspodium, winkels en zalencentrum “Roelanzia”. Het hoogste gebouw is de Boerenbond, wat het agrarisch karakter van het dorp aangeeft.
Het omliggende landschap bestaat uit gebieden met boerderijen en natuur,zoals de Heidse Peel, de Rouwkuilen, het bos aan de Paardekopweg.
Babelfish translation
of the larger church villages of Venray, lies in the heart of the peel (on the border of limburg and brabant). Founded called in 1921, and to the former minister of agriculture H.A. of Ysselsteyn. From the savage peellandschap by noeste labour and pioneer spirit the wide quarter of century the village has later developed into a sparkling community.
The core Ysselsteyn is formed by the Lovinckplein; we find around the St Oda church, the primary school, the community house, the rabobank, rural podium, shops and room centre "Roelanzia". The highest bldg. is the farmer association, what the agrarian character of the village indicates.
The neighbouring landscape exists from areas with farms and nature, such as the Heidse peel, the Rouwkuilen, the bunch to the Paardekopweg.
Wikipedia
One of the bigger churchvillages (a typical Limburgian village siutated around a church) of the municipality of Venray , it lies in the hart of the Peel-region ( on the border of Limburg and Nooord-Brabant ). Founded in 1921 and named after the 1921 mimister for agriculture H.A. van Ysselsteyn. Out of the wild boglands of the Peel it became through hard work and a pioneersmentality in less than a century a buzzing village.
Centre of Ysselsteyn is the Lovinckplein ; around it we find the St Oda Kerk, the primary school, city hall, the local bank, the villagepodium, shops and congresscebtre “Roelanzia”. The highest building is the Boerenbond (Farmers Union Building) , which shows the agricultural roots of this village.
Around the centre you will find farms and lots of nature, like the Heidse Peel, the Rouwkuilen , and the forest of the Paardekopweg.
I made the article into a stub, so deleting it won't be necessary. --R.Koot 20:25, 31 August 2005 (UTC)Reply
Wheeeeeeeeeeee! Thank you ever so much. I assume you went and removed the listing from WP:CP, too, right? I get really excited by an actual closing of an item on WP:CP. JesseW 20:50, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Glad to see you're trying to cut down the backlog. Unfortunately, in the big edit you made earlier today, you inadvertently replaced a lot of non-ASCII characters with ? marks or other characters. I'm not sure how to get the correct characters back without losing all the subsequent edits to the page. (I'm guessing you copied the page into a text editor, edited off-line, and then copied it back.) Thought you should be aware of this so you can watch out for it the next time. --Russ Blau (talk) 22:25, August 31, 2005 (UTC)

I thought that might have happened. Thanks for alerting me. JesseW 23:43, 31 August 2005 (UTC)

Image:Cobain.jpg

Errr...sorry. The photographer is Mark Seliger and it's used as the cover of Cobain, a paperback that Rolling Stone put together, which I think would be fair use. I know the tag for album covers, but what is the tag for book covers?--Weebot 22:52, 31 August 2005 (UTC)Reply

Congratulations!

I forgot to congratulate you! What's it been, two days? Oops. Nice sig. It's just got that ring to it, you know? Incidentally... hey, I just met Zora who went to Reed years ago, and we a great discussion. You might appreciate her insight as well! Oh, and I don't think you ever told me why you left (if it's not too personal), but is there any chance of your returning? I think it be fun to see a Wikipedian in real life... Also, I'm glad you've taken up CP help. I have to admit I've always shied away from it because it takes so friggin' long for my computer to load it (just like the WP:TL is unmanageable). Hasn't nyone ever brought up the idea of daily subpages, like WP:CFD? Am I rambling? Dmcdevit·t 22:20, September 2, 2005 (UTC)

Congrats. Just saw the news in the Signpost. BlankVerse 17:25, 6 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

David S. Touretzky

"I don't know what Al's objection to the old wording is, but how's this for an alternative wording?" - JesseW[1]

Jesse, your wording is also acceptable. My objection was the claim that the readers were "inspired by the work." David Touretzky himself contributed that wording but I don't see anywhere that the contributors were inspired. They merely supported Touretzky's efforts. --AI 08:10, 5 September 2005 (UTC)Reply
Ok. I just saw the original wording as meaning that "since Touretzky created the page, people read it, and were motivated to send in similar creations that they made"; i.e. they were "inspired" to send in their works because of reading his work(the page). If you object to the word inspired, I don't care one way or another. Glad we could resove this. JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:21, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
Just BTW, didn't you quit Wikipedia on August 8th?(See this edit to the Village Pump). What caused you to come back? JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:27, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

No problem. It's what it said on the tag and it was in my view a good deletion candidate. Feel free to list it on VFD (I still can't say AFD). - Mgm|(talk) 10:40, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

  • I've added my vote on the VFD. I thought it was a combination of A1 and A7. A lot of hype, little real info. - Mgm|(talk) 11:18, September 5, 2005 (UTC)

Cropsey Township

You're welcome! I'm slowly working through some copyright violations, doing some rewrites and just generally trying to help with the backlog! Rx StrangeLove 17:23, 5 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Images

You tagged some of the images you uploaded for speedy deletion. I assume this means you want them to be removed, since they were a mistake of some kind. Just to furfill the letter of speedy criteria G7 "Any page which is requested for deletion by the original author, provided the author reasonably explains that it was created by mistake, and the page was edited only by its author.", I'm asking you on your talk page. Thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 10:55, 5 September 2005 (UTC)

The images are no longer used and they are already IFD, so if anybody wants to delete them, thats okay with me T-1000 17:56, 5 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

metre redirect

After I did the rollback, I started to worry that I might have made a mistake since all the other pages were redirected as well. I didn't find anything either. By the way, you might want to fix your signature on Bobblewik's talk page. -- JamesTeterenko 22:19, 8 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for letting me know about the missing sig on Bobblewik's talk page. That would have been somewhat embaraessing. ;-) JesseW, the juggling janitor 22:33, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
No prob. I just undid a number of his other mass redirects. It does look like he meant well. -- JamesTeterenko 22:40, 8 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

next wiki syntax update

Hi JesseW, I'm planning to do another run of Wiki Syntax next time an updated database dump comes out; Unfortunately it's taking a long time for that to happen - the last one was from the 23rd of June, which is nearly 3 months ago :-( - the one I want is anything ending in "cur_table.sql.gz". -- All the best, Nickj (t) 08:52, 11 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Science pearls

Hello,

Since you contributed in the past to the publications’ lists, I thought that you might be interested in this new project. I’ll be glad if you will continue contributing. Thanks,APH 11:18, 11 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Internet

JesseW :) you bad boy you! OK so all I have to do is add a page of text to getmypc.info and that is all it will take to get an external link to park? 'talk' about the internet? 0waldo 03:23, 13 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

No. External links need to provide material that adds value to the article, and should not be added by their controller, if there is opposition. I find your persistence in trying to "do Wikipedia a favor" after that favor has been rather strenuously, but mostly politely, refused, to be quite odd. In any case, this should be discussed at Talk:Internet. JesseW, the juggling janitor 03:31, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

Synergy/DE

Jesse, I have a copywrite issue that I need either your or another administrator to look into. On September 1, I tagged Synergy/DE as a copyvio because it was directly copied from the company website and it smelled strongly like an ad. A few days later, the talk page got a response from a marketing rep saying they wrote the article and they are giving copywrite permsission. I also noticed that they left a message on the copyvio page asking that the copyvio tag be cleared. Today I got a message on my user page from the rep asking me to remove the copyvio tag and they'll improve the language so it doesn't sound like an ad. At this point, I don't think I have the authority to remove the tag even if I contact Wikipedia PR myself. Plus, letting a company marketing rep write an "unbiased" article about her own company has me a bit nervous anyway, so could you look into it for me? --Solarusdude 05:05, 14 September 2005 (UTC)Reply


Re:Please do not blank categories without explanation

Hi You messaged me :I just reverted a category who you rendered an orphan by blanking it. Please do not do this without explanation

Where should I put the explanation? The category in question was replaced with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Australian_football_stadia Thanks --Tancred 06:15, 15 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Notification Bot

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Well, if you say so... /me gives a big Evil grin. JesseW, the juggling janitor 18:49, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

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Deklarit

Listed as a copyvio. Apologies for the incorrect CSD use and I will ensure that it does not happen again. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction! Mr Bound 13:24, 15 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

User:Ingoolemo/Threads/05/9/14a

Mike Kinkella

You wrote (on my talk page): You tagged Mike Kinkella as nn-bio, CSD A7. I do no think it fits that criterion. The article made multiple claims of notability, such as MVP, records, etc. There were for Arena Football, which is a minor sport, but I think it needs to go through AfD, maybe, but not speedy. Just wanted to let you know. JesseW, the juggling janitor 20:09, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

From the article I was under the impresion that arena football was a strictly high-school level sport. i don't think that HS sport records are generally claims of notability. On looking furher, this seems not to be the case. I do think the person is non-notable but let this go through AfD. Note also that this seems to be a recreation after a prior deletion, but let that go too, as I think that was also an nn-bio speedy. I trust you have placed this on AfD already. DES (talk) 20:19, 15 September 2005 (UTC)Reply
I'm not sure weather or not he is non-notable, so I don't think I would be able to make much of AfD case. Would you list the page? JesseW, the juggling janitor 20:26, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
I did. For future reference if you remove an nn-bio tag because you think a claim of notability is present, please list the page on AfD. You can say something like "User:misguidedEditor tagged this for speedy deltion. i think the person is noteable (or i'm unsure if the person is notable) so I remved the tag and i am listing it here instead. Keep." (or vote abstain or delete as you think the case warrents). Thank you. DES (talk) 20:40, 15 September 2005 (UTC)Reply
Certainly; I will do that in the future. Thanks for letting me know. JesseW, the juggling janitor 20:45, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks...

...for not dropping the ball. paul klenk 20:37, 15 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Gee whizz

...what a crazy redirect you came up with just then. Have a Working Man's Barnstar as it appears you do this quite often:

 

Take care, Molotov (talk)   20:56, 15 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Well, thank you. Just trying to prevent further deletions of that title. I do do lots of maintance and cleanup work. JesseW, the juggling janitor 21:13, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks

Thanks for the barnstar :) Looks like the backlog at WP:CP is really starting to go down --Duk 21:38, 15 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

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Thanks

Hi Jesse, and thanks for the barnstar -- it is very much appreciated. I'm sorry that I don't have time just at the moment to give much attention to Wikipedia in general and WP:CP in particular. Having a job sucks. :) --Ngb ?!? 22:43, 16 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Recent speedy deletion restorations

Dear JesseW: I was recently going through the logs and noticed that you resurrected a number of nonsense articles from the dead (including Rowan Burns, Old Apps, Anthony G. Collins, Keith gibson etc.) and I thought I would ask you why you did so. Although a couple should have gone through AfD the majority appear, at least to me, to match the speedy criteria. Would you be so kind ask to explain why these articles should be kept? Thank you :-) Best regards, --NicholasTurnbull 18:14, 17 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

I'd be happy to explain. I am in the process of reviewing the speedy deletions of User:Jondel, as I noticed that he used the non-CSD reason "non notable". This is not a speedy criterion. E also speedied many without any specific reason at all. I will be speeding some of the ones, and listing the others on AfD. I've done about 14 already (see today's AfD log), and some look like they will be kept, while other's have already been speedied. I think it is important to make sure the CSDs are followed. If you have any further questions, please let me know. JesseW, the juggling janitor 19:33, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
Some of the articles that were restored were IMO obviously useless. I see no reason to clutter Afd with them. On the other hand, some of them were things that IMO should definitely have gone through Afd. Friday (talk) 21:36, 17 September 2005 (UTC)Reply
I know. It was hard to tell with some of them, as there was no criteria used. Sorry for the bother; which ones did you specifically think of? JesseW, the juggling janitor 22:01, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

User Categorization

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Thanks

JW-Thanks for the help. I am not sure why I didn't understand it. Maybe I just misread the directions, but I have it now. Thanks again! Davidpdx 9/17/05 7:00 (UTC) Ps-I'm from Portland...I used to live not far from Reed College. I miss that place SO much!

Wikipedia:Votes_for_undeletion#List_of_gags_in_Airplane.21

Hey J3,
As someone who has not voted voiced an opinion, could you close this discussion? (I.e. Remove the section from the page.) Its time is up, the article is (for now) deleted, and consensus is KD. Thanks,
brenneman(t)(c) 00:42, 20 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Lakewood Blvd. Or one of them...

Hey, glad to provide a little amusement since it's often pretty hard to come by in AFD. I was actually taken aback by Moncrief's challenge. It never occurred to me that there might be only one Lakewood Blvd. and I had forgotten about the one in my home town. Quale 01:33, 20 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

View diff since your last change

Hi, I tried your view diff since your last change bookmarklet listed at WP:Tools, but I couldn't get it to work. Right now it's just showing me the diff of the last change made to the page. I seem to remember reading somewhere that in the conversion to 1.5 that they slightly changed the formatting of the history page, and I'm thinking that might have something to do with it. It could be that it's working for you and I've just been using it wrong. Let me know. Thanks! -- Norvy (talk) 05:48, 20 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thailand map

Thanks for your message.

First of all, I am very sorry about the loss of the image you made. That is a shame, and I hope and intend to try to get it back from a mirror or other source. However, I am still confused by the specifics of the case. What map at History of Thailand? Looking (partially) through the history, I can't see any map.
That's because it has been deleted.
Besides Image:Thailand.gif, I did find Image:Ac.watarun.jpg, which was uploaded by Adam Carr (with no tags in the edit summary or the image description page) on 12:45, 10 September 2004, but that was captioned as "Siamese warrior figures at the 18th century Wat Arun (Temple of Dawn) in Bangkok, erected by King Taksin the Great in 1769", which doesn't sound like a map.
No, that was a photo, which has also been deleted, even though I took it myself
I looked through the various sub articles of History of Thailand, thinking it might be there, but, I found no map in the current versions. (Maybe it has been removed)
Very observant
It would be very helpful if you could provide us with a file name, or a revision where it was present.

To make sure that no others of your uploaded images get deleted, I would suggest you review the log of your uploads. Just glancing over it, I notice Image:Skybush.jpg, Image:Foxsmall.jpg, Image:Portcullis black.gif, and Image:Rectitude.jpg(which is a really nice image) all have no source or license info.

Those images were not uploaded with the intention of putting them at articles. Skybush is at my Talk page, portcullis was for a project which I abandoned, rectitude was sent to someone else. I don't know what foxsmall is.
Thanks so much for all your work in Wikipedia. JesseW, the juggling janitor 08:24, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. Adam 08:37, 21 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Jesse, thanks for your efforts over this. The copy of the map you located is rather poor after being reproduced in some way, so I think it will have to be abandoned. I don't now recall the provenance of the Petrov photo, so it will probably be deleted when the photopolice get to it. I'm, not actually greatly worried about old and unsourced photos, I accept that they need to be deleted. I was annoyed however at the deletion of an original graphic without consultation. Adam 09:34, 21 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

  • Image:Grahamberry.jpg - scanned from a 1904 newspaper
  • Image:Hopetoun.jpg - no idea, off the web somewhere
  • Image:Teper2.jpg - scanned from a photo in possession of Ios Teper, taken in Germany in 1945 by one his friends, probably long dead
  • Image:Punishthem.gif - from the MDC website i think
  • Image:PICT0510.JPG - taken by me, but it's not at an article, I uploaded it so I could ask what the ruins were called
  • Image:Kadirgamar.jpg - no idea
  • Image:Ac.delphi1.jpg - taken by me but never added to the Delphi article, which i was going to rewrite but never got round to it.

"ac" was uploaded by me, not necessarily taken by me.

Adam 10:19, 21 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

I have no defence for any of those except these:

  • Image:Ac.casey.jpg
  • Image:Ac.cowen.jpg
  • Image:Ac.kerr.jpg
  • Image:Ac.snedden.jpg

All of these were scanned from the Australian Parliamentary Handbook, for which I have written permission:

This photograph is held under Crown copyright by the Commonwealth of Australia. The responsible Commonwealth agency, AUSPIC, gave written permission on 2 August 2005 for this photograph to be used at Wikipedia (see following). The use of this image by is contended by Australian Wikipedians to be fair dealing in Australia and fair use in the United States. (Letter from AUSPIC to User:Adam Carr: "Dear Dr Carr, Approval is granted to reproduce images nominated below [photographs of Members, Senators and Governors-General appearing in current and past editions of the Parliamentary Handbook] on the Wikipedia website. Subsequent use by a third pary will incur reproduction fees if that use is of a commercial nature. Copyright remains with AUSPIC. Peter West, Director, AUSPIC auspic@aph.gov.au)"

But as you will have observed, this has not been accepted.

Adam 11:37, 21 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

I've removed my {{fairusedisputed}} tag from the above four, there seems to be a good claim to fair use now that we know they're from an official book. JYolkowski // talk 20:59, 21 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Johnny Woo

Hiya - you've changed the Johnny Woo page into a redirect for the Judge Dredd Megazine and called it a "merge". However, none of the material has been merged into the other article. Also, Johnny Woo, as a separate character to Judge Dredd, is notable enough for a separate article (for all that the one that was there was too stubby - I kept meaning to deal with it). All in all, this looks like a deletion by any other name. Am i missing something? Cheers, Vizjim 12:35, 21 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the nice comments. I've reverted the article. Keep up the good work! Vizjim 19:51, 21 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

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History of the Internet

No, I'm not happy at all with his proposed changes. I was just about to post a message on the Talk: page (I'm still busy doing today's work on WP:RfD, that was next on my list), basically suggesting the exact same thing you propose - that he propose changes to the existing page (which, I note, is hardly anything I wrote - in the 100 edits prior to that version, only two are by me, and one is a dab fix).

You need to understand that he is trying to change the page around to follow his novel personal historical interpretation, based in large part on personal research. The emphasis he wants to give to things is absolutely out of tune with the standard works on the subject, e.g. the standard academic history of the Internet, Inventing the Internet, by Janet Abbate (MIT Press). Noel (talk) 00:14, 22 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

PS: He also seems to have an unlimited amount of time to spend on this project to reform this page into the form he wants. I was spending many hours a day dealing with him for a couple of days, before I had to rejoin my normal life. I spend an hour or two a day on this, but I simply cannot put in 12 hours a day, every day, keeping up with his obsession about this page. Noel (talk) 00:21, 22 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Not sure how to respond to Noel's comments. I've done my best to present well researched information, and had truely thought we had got over this. Was just about to comment that I was having second thoughts over a temporary rewrite as I couldn't see a way to work in the information on the other networks without changes to the structure. Since Noel does not want expanded mention of these networks at all, I see no way to progress.

I'm going to give up. I've had my fill of personal attacks and petty bickering, Noel can have the article to write what ever he wants. --John R. Barberio talk, contribs 01:14, 22 September 2005 (UTC) Reply


Pictures

A lot of those pics are more than 50 yrs old. Mainly because the writers themselves have been dead for longer than that. AFAIK, that makes them copyright-free? But I could be misinformed. --Peripatetic 10:55, 22 September 2005 (UTC)Reply


Information Request

I'm leaving you this message because you posted a reply on the Copyright Violation page. Please let me know if there is a different procedure to follow.

I posted a request for removal of a copyrighted image nearly 5 days ago, and it has not been responded to nor any action taken. I see that responses to other requests are generally posted within a day or so.

Would you please take a look at my request to remove the image "Wintu Women Circa 1900" [2] and let me know if there is some other method I should be following to achieve the removal of this copyrighted image.

The text of the request is below:

"Copyright infringement

"I have been contacted and informed that an image as to which I represent the copyright holders is posted in Wikipedia Commons without permission. Please remove the following image immediately: [Wintu_Women_circa_1900.jpg].

"The source of the image is listed as the website of the College of the Siskiyous, where the image appears with permission; the image on that website clearly contains the copyright statement: © 2001 Masson-Gomez Family.

"I have read the statement of the person who originally posted the image, and it appears that he was under the mistaken impression that the copyright had expired - that impression is incorrect. While the image was created some time ago, it remained privately held by the family, and was not published or registered for copyright until recently. Under the Copyright Act, this image is clearly currently copyright protected.

"Under 17 U.S.C. sec. 303, as a work created before 1978 but not theretofore in the public ___domain, which was then first published in 2001, the copyright remains active until December 31, 2047. There is a very useful chart published on the Cornell University website that sets out these complex rules in a simple way Copyright Protection Chart.

"If you have any questions please contact the administrator of the College of the Siskiyous website directly, and he will confirm the copyright status of the image.

"Again, please remove this protected image immediately.

"CopyrightProtection 22:56, 20 September 2005 (UTC)"

CopyrightProtection 20:30, 24 September 2005 (UTC)Reply


Thanks for the monobook info

I had wondered if there were such a solution, having got rid of my yellow "you have a message" message before but didn't know to go and create the solution. Cheers, and it works just fine, SqueakBox 23:22, 25 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Sipi--CSD

This is just a query: I'm puzzled why you removed the SD tag from Sipi. It's a dicdef for a word that, as I said in the SD tag, does not exist. Doesn't that make clear that it's nonsense, a clear hoax? What else could it be? It's not a big deal, since it won't survive AfD anyway, but I was curious what your rationale was. You can reply on the article's AfD page if you'd like, since mine wasn't the only vote for speedy. Thanks. Chick Bowen 23:20, 25 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Deleting images

When you delete an image, could you please first remove all references to it from the articles? Thank you. Lupo 10:02, 26 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Dear Jesse, from one janitor to another: you may have noticed that I help clearing the {{nosource}} category, too, yet I take the trouble not to leave broken links behind. Not removing dead links to deleted images is just sloppy work. Lupo 09:00, 27 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Deletion of Image:Strath_Uni.JPG

I'm 99% sure I deleted the image because it was a duplicate of Image:Strath Univ.jpg --Nv8200p (talk) 20:42, 26 September 2005 (UTC) Cool. I'm sure that was it. Thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 20:47, 26 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Apollogies

I'm sorry, I tagged it because I was sure it had a big bolded "N" by its side. I guess I'm too sleepy to keep on RC patrolling tonight, and I'll call it a day. Again, I'm sorry. *Hugs*, Shauri 21:21, 26 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

NP. I know how it is to be too tired to know to stop Wikipediaing... JesseW, the juggling janitor 23:55, 26 September 2005 (UTC)

Tagging

Could you tell me how you count the number of images left to speedy? I've noticed that you've updated the count the last few times... --HappyCamper 10:37, 27 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Deletion bot?

No deletion bot. I'm just going wild with a tabbed browser and copy-pasting the edit summaries. What kind of tool are you using there? And is it something I could use? :) Coffee 09:48, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

the images

Greetings,

Ive properly re-tagged most of the pictures. The few that I have not, I have re-uploaded replacements for them, and therefore do not need them anymore. They can be deleted. Thanx.--Zereshk 17:54, 27 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

KF's images

Hi there. "Please check your images", you informed me, "I noticed that you have some images in the category Category:Images with unknown source. Due to the vast number of images in this category (12000+), and the fact that, lacking a source, they present considerable copyright uncertanty, Jimbo has stated, and added to the Criteria for Speedy Deletion, "Images in category "Images with unknown source" or "Images with unknown copyright status" which have been in the category for more than 7 days, regardless of when uploaded." This means the images can, and will, be deleted with no notice. To see a list of all the images you've uploaded (at least, under this username), review the upload log. You might also find User:Pearle/by-author-Category:Images_with_unknown_source.txt to be useful (search for your username). If you have any questions, please let me know."

Thanks for your message. Well, the upload log mentioned above only goes back as far as the end of 2004. At User:Pearle/by-author-Category:Images_with_unknown_source.txt my user name cannot be found. All I can say is that back in 2002 or early 2003, when image tags on Wikipedia were still a thing of the future, I did upload a few images which might, in retrospective, be considered as having an "unknown source". I've stated this over and over again on all sorts of talk pages, and whenever someone pointed me to a concrete image without a tag I could react in an appropriate manner.
Your message above, however, does not help, for the reasons given. In many cases it would be easy—in fact very easy—to just add the {{screenshot}} tag because that's what many of them are, and I'd be sad to see them deleted. However, as I said above, there is no way I could track them down or retrieve them.
All the best, <KF> 18:03, 27 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

Last diff tab

I noticed on Wikipedia:WikiProject User scripts that you are good with JS. I was hoping that you might help me. I copied the add tab, Ll link, purge tab, and last diff tab scripts and placed them in my monobook. The purge function works but the last diff function will only take me to the the last diff of Defined regardless of the page I am currently on. Have I done something wrong? I have removed the last diff tab for the time being. I would appreciate your input. Thanks. Psy guy (talk) 17:26, 28 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

I've looked at your copy of the lastDiff function, and it's fine. I've tested my copy, and it's fine. I am puzzled. What browser, OS, etc, are you using? I doubt I can fix it, but it's worth trying... Sorry it didn't work. JesseW, the juggling janitor 17:35, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
Don't hold it against me, but I use IE though that may change soon. I will try to reinsert it again later. Thanks for your help and thanks for responding so quickly. Psy guy (talk) 18:53, 28 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

149 Presentation

Thankyou for protecting this page from recreation, I think I tried my best to direct User:Engl149 regarding what wikipedia is not and pointed them towards the list of free wikis. I feel slightly bad by impeding the learning process but then the user continually recreated the page. Anyway, thanks! Cursive 22:40, 28 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

hi

case you were wondering- user:patrick Lucas has not been a real user since I'v had an eye on him. he appeared to edit a few articles, nominate some stuff for deletion then go on vacay or some shit cuz he's been gone. Ish (fake science alert) 04:53, 29 September 2005 (UTC) Reply

Er. "real user"? I'm not sure what you mean by this - the account was a Wikipedia:Sockpuppet of some other user, or what? In any case, while I appreciate the information, I am somewhat confused as to what your relationship is to it. Why are you watching the talk page of a inactive user? Not that there's anything wrong with it, just that it seems odd. But, thanks anyway. JesseW, the juggling janitor 07:03, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
right on. sorry. I'm bitter. he nominated something that was meaningful to me for deletion. there ya go. I found this suspicious cuz 1.) he never seemed to give a solid reason why he nominated it, tho plenty of other people made a reasonable case for deletion. and 2.) he hasn't done shit on wikipedia since. I recently came back to his talk page to see if he would defend his action. ya know, usually people make a case for their deletion nomination, if someone objects. usually, ya know, this proces entails a community working together to decide what's deleted and what's not. Rational people are often seen working together civilly, right? I have yet to hear back from him. this is why the deletion process is f-ing gay.
so. wow. thanks for listening. I noticed you left him a message. I basically meant to say I don't think he's "home". and, he doesn't seem to be a typical "user with a stake in the community." I could be wrong. I'm currently waiting to hear back. Ish (fake science alert) 21:55, 29 September 2005 (UTC)Reply


Barnstar

Hey Jesse. It has come to my attention that you're an awesome User. So have this.—encephalon 09:27, 30 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

 
Awarded to JesseW for being generally awesome. —encephalon 09:27, 30 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

==Who's RfA== Thank you for supporting my masters RfA. He appreciates your support and comments and looks forward to better serving Wikipedia the best he can. Of course I will be doing all of the real work. He would have responded to you directly, but he is currently out of town, and wanted to thank you asap. Thanks again. --Who's mop?¿? 21:04, 30 September 2005 (UTC)Reply

User:68.12.41.56

He's creating more articles about camps Ben D. 00:01, 1 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

I am doing a series of these things, and in the process of generating and uploading them I may have accidentally skipped one.

Have a look at User:Pmurray_bigpond.com/mobtmp. Once this page is done, I intend to insert it into mobius transformation. Pmurray bigpond.com 08:23, 2 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Undelete and bring to AfD?

A few days ago I noticed you deleting a number of articles tagged as speedies. Just judging from the summary available in the deletion log and a quick googling, it seems to me that a few of these may have potential. I would suggest undeleting them and taking them to WP:AFD instead. I think there is a chance somebody will expand them there. See list below. Tupsharru 14:46, 2 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

  • "Michael P. Haydock" (content was: '{{nn-bio}}Michael P. Haydock was the former boss of Cray Inc.{{business-bio-stub}}{{compu-bio-stub}}')
Somebody who has been president and CEO of a leading producer of supercomputers is probably notable
You are probably correct; however, I feel this can be deleted under CSD A1 - minimal context as well; nevertheless, if you wish to recreate it, I won't speedy it again. (It's not that hard to recreate, as you have the full text right there.
  • "David Komansky" (content was: '{{nn-bio}}{{importance}}David Komansky (born 1939) was chairman of Merrill Lynch.
Another leader of a major corporation
Same as above; CSD A1 as well, feel free to recreate.
  • "Michael Garland" (content was: '<nowiki>{{nn-bio}}Michael Garland is a book illustrator.{{artist-stub}}Garland')</nowiki>
It is perhaps debatable whether this is an assertion of notability, but he seems to have illustrated quite a few books[3][4]
Merely being a book illustrator is not a assertion of notability; however, if you want to create good stub on him, I would be delighted - go to it!
  • "K. C. Bokadia" (content was: '{{nn-bio}}K C Bokadia is an Indian filmmaker.{{film-stub}}Bokadia')
Has an IMDB page with several films listed: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0092555/
Sale as the last one; being a filmaker is not an assertion of notability; however, if he really is notable, please create a good stub. JesseW, the juggling janitor 18:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
  • "Deepak Tijori" (content was: '<nowiki>{{nn-bio}}{{cleanup-importance}}Deepak Tijori (b. 28 August,1961) is an Indian actor.{{actor-stub}}')</nowiki>
IMDB-page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0863120/
Same as above.
  • "Farouque Sheikh" (content was: '{{nn-bio}}Farouque Sheikh is an Indian actor.{{actor-stub}}Sheikh')
IMDB-page: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0787582/
Same as above.
  • "Kenneth Calman" (CSD A1 content was: '{{delete}}Vice Chancellor of Durham University')
Little content, but chances are some Durham student or alumnus might improve it if it was brought to AfD.
Why burden AfD? Just mention on the Durham University page that it would be nice to have a article on Kenneth Calman, the Vice Chancellor, and you are more likely to find someone knowledgeable to work on it.

While I appreciate you looking over the speedy deletions, and I encourage you to continue(I've done it myself recently), I don't think these specific ones need to be undeleted(mainly due to their minimal content making recreation trivial). Thanks for the discussion! JesseW, the juggling janitor 18:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

I just thought it may be a good idea to give whoever might be interested the chance to improve them before they get deleted. That doesn't work with speedy deletion, but is frequently the result of an AfD. However, I am not in the habit of writing one-line substubs and I don't personally care enough about any single of these articles to recreate it with proper content myself. If you don't think undeletion and AfD is appropriate in these cases, I'm not going to insist on it. Tupsharru 22:27, 2 October 2005 (UTC)Reply
"Improve" them? But the point that I, and Friday, have been trying to make is precisely that there is a negligible ammount of content to improve - these pages were effectively requested articles, not real articles, or even stubs. AfD is not a place to list requested articles. I am glad you are not in the habit of writing one-line substubs. ;-) JesseW, the juggling janitor 23:50, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

At the risk of being a buttinski, here's an outside opinion. What's the point of undeleting articles with such minimal content? Anyone who wanted to write a proper article on any of these subjects could easily do so, without benefit of undeletion. Afd is pretty crowded these days; I'd hate to see it used unneccessarily. To me an undeletion generally only makes sense when it's the only way to get useful content back. Friday (talk) 16:17, 2 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

I don't mind the buttinski-ing. As I said above, I agree with you on these. Thanks. JesseW, the juggling janitor 18:32, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

Message answered

On my page - Leonard G. 03:30, 3 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Florist

Jesse, I created a bunch of stubs, Floral design, Floristry and Floristics after I noticed that some <stricken out> experts turned them into redirects to ikebana. Only after that I noticed your excellent essay "Florist". However I cannot help but notice that the proper title to the text of "Florist" would be "Floristry". I trust you to finish the job: AFAIK, the "-stry" article must have an emphasis on the craft, while the "-st" article on the skills, if you know what I mean.

If you have things better to do, you may want to simply merge florist and floristry; I will not mind. mikka (t) 05:00, 4 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Thanks for the compliment! I thought it(the essay at Florist) was probably under the wrong title, but it's not a very focussed essay, so I wasn't really sure. I've merged it into Floristry. Thanks! JesseW, the juggling janitor 23:01, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

#en.wikipedia.vandalism

Sorry, I never ran the bot for that channel. Although I used the channel on occasion, I do not have any data related to its operation. Sorry! --Wikiacc (talk) 23:46, 5 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

MediaWiki:Newarticletextanon

Hi Jesse, the pages you mentioned are too wordy and unfriendly for new users.

My suggestion would be something like this:

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We don't have an article called "Newarticletextanon."


But you can write it!

Wikipedia encourages its readers to help contribute information to this free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.

There are a couple of important guidelines:

  1. Anonymous edits are discouraged.
  2. Creating a user account has benefits.
  3. Linkspam and advertising is forbidden.
  4. Contributions must be considered notable and be written from a neutral point of view.
Remember most of all that Wikipedia is not primarily an experiment in Internet democracy. It's a project to write an encyclopedia.

For more information, read the introduction and your first article first.

If you want to experiment, go to the sandbox.

   * Type in the box below and click save page to start this article.
     Your article will be published immediately.

Wrote an article that isn't appearing? Wikipedia may have a delay, or it might have been deleted. Wait a few minutes, or check the deletion log.

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DutchSeduction 09:24, 7 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Two images

I can't tell you anything about Image:Kuno Fischer.jpg (which you already have marked PD), sorry. The only other hit on google image search for "Kuno Fischer" with this specific image is the hu.wikipedia, who took it from us ;-)

But, I wrote "from meta, converted to JPEG" as import note for Image:Lorenzo II de Medici.jpg. This seems to refer to meta:Log:Uploads, especially the entry

On 2002-02-26 00:32:14, maveric149 uploaded file Lorenzo_de_Medici.png

which fits the time (I copied it in August 2002), and it wasn't jpg either (so I could convert it). You want to ask him, or should I? --Magnus Manske 14:11, 8 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Pure wiki deletion system

I see that you are a supporter of a pure wiki deletion system; we've moved the proposal page from meta to Wikipedia:Pure wiki deletion system, and are looking for supporters to sign the page, as well as help in writing the code and working out the policy changes needed. Join us! JesseW, the juggling janitor 07:55, 8 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, I used to be. Lately I've been having my doubts about the viability of pure wiki article modification for articles during disputes (though I still think it's a wonderful system in non-dispute situations), so I'm not all that sure I'm still a pure wiki deletion proponent. I'll keep an eye on the page and join in the discussion though, thanks. --fvw* 15:18, 8 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

CSD # I4

Please remember that when you delete images that have been tagged as {{No source}} for more than 7 days (or any other time when you speedy delete images), don't forget to check and modify the pages listed under "File links". I stumbed across Image:Barberella.JPG (which you deleted at 05:25, 27 September 2005 UTC) and it still had the article Barbarella under its File links list. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 19:23, 8 October 2005 (UTC)Reply

Uncontested deletions

I've just launched my deletion reform proposal at Wikipedia:Deletion reform/Proposals/Uncontested deletions. Any help with publicising this - and getting up a discussion would be appreciated. --Doc (?) 18:46, 10 October 2005 (UTC)Reply