Unencyclopedic. 202.156.6.61 03:53, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Delete per nom & nn. --Daniel Lotspeich 03:56, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Keep how is this less encyclopedic than Zophar's Domain, GameFAQs, Download.com and so on. --Dark Twilkitri 04:13, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
Keep, as this is a website that has remained online for over five years and is in fact a part of a hobby's history. If you're going to vote this for deletion, why not take down the entries Dark Twilkitri mentioned too? Kitsune Sniper / David Silva 04:36, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
- Delete nn. Suggesting that this site is like the links above is akin to noting that my 18 ft sailboat is like the QEII. Dottore So 08:51, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
- That argument could be made for GameFAQs, and possibly Download.com - I may have gone a bit overboard - but I struggle to see how you could make it for Zophar's. In any case, according to here (yes, it is marked as proposed and not finalised, but one wonders whether it is really going to change that much), an article is considered important if There is clear proof that a reasonable number of people are or were concurrently interested in the subject (eg. it is at least well-known in a community). I don't think you'll be able to find that Whirlpool isn't at least well-known in the translation romhacking community - more like it is the most well-known in that community. --Dark Twilkitri 10:26, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
- In that case, then we should delete some of your own articles. I really don't see why Songs to Grow on for Mother and Child is encyclopedic. The point is, the site is a huge part of a subset of videogaming history, and as such, it deserves an article. It's had nearly 4'500,000 visitors in five years of existance. If that doesn't tell you that the site is important, I really don't know what will do so.Kitsune Sniper / David Silva 16:13, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
- Weak delete. Anyone got evidence of the impact this site has had? If so I'd keep it. The Land 09:17, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
- Keep - The site was recently featured in the book 'Gaming Hacks' put out by O'Reilly press.
- Delete. Extreme non-notability: all of parodius.com combined has an Alexa rank of 850,000, and The Whirlpool gets less than 20% of that traffic. --Carnildo 22:06, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
- One would think that Alexa results would tend to be biased towards sites visited by the sort of people prepared to have it on their computer. In any case, it isn't a site with universal appeal, so one wouldn't expect it to have a high Alexa ranking. The site is notable in the translation romhacking community, not the entire population. --Dark Twilkitri 01:59, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
- Delete - I was fan of the video game console emulation community in the late 1990's. I have heard of this site but it is just not notable to have an article in Wikipedia. It is somewhat popular "underground" news site about Japanese video game console ROM images translated into English or some other language. That's just about it. Wikipedia is not a web guide. Although, I know for certain the website's founder sure loves softcore pornography with red hair ladies. --J. Nguyen 03:30, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
- Keep - if the fan translation scene and zophar's ___domain are notable enough to have articles, surely the whirlpool is. there is a strong case for arguing that it is the most influential fan translation website currently online. --Bngrybt 10:42, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
- Keep - "Not encyclopedic?" The site itself is an encyclopedia of games translated to English that were never officially released outside of Japan. It's no different than being an encyclopedia of software emulators (Zophar's Domain) or FAQ files (GameFAQs). It is a conrnerstone in the game translation community such that if it disappeared, much of it's content would be hard to reproduce, as many of the originating sites for the files hosted are no longer online (while The Whirlpool has remained so for five years itself). I would also point out there has been an entry for Whirlpool for over two years at everything2.com, another encyclopedia site. An encylopedia site where not every spiteful/disruptive Joe, Dick, or Mary can press a button to change the content.--SuddenPresence 10:29, 19 October 2005 (UTC)