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Hi. I am the editor who is mostly responsible for the Psych folk article up end of the 1970s, but I pretty much left the Freak folk bit at the end as it was, even if very unhappy with it, so I was glad to see someone come along and cut down the list. As part of an attempt to sort out the Folk music article and folk articles in general, I have been looking at Freak folk, Anti-folk, Counterfolk, Un-folk, Indie folk, and Nu-folk (could be more here, I keep finding them), with increasing despair. These articles are mainly as clear as mud, lack citations and constantly cite the same bands. I wonder if you are the sort of person who might actually understand which bands actually belong to which and whether some should be merged as they are actually synonyms?--Sabrebd (talk) 07:14, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
That's a massive improvement. I appreciate anything you can do on these, I will try to pick up the ones you are less familiar with. I wonder from some of the reading whether Indie folk is a generic terms for all of these current trends, but need some more solid evidence to back that up. Thanks for your efforts.--Sabrebd (talk) 10:09, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
In the words (stolen) by Led Zeppelin, ramble on. Its all very interesting to me and really makes a nice change from the more usually arguments about inverted commas that I usually have. Good news, I have managed to find a reliable source that sets of the development of the terms "anti-folk", "new weird America", "Freak folk" and "Indie folk". It is: Amanda Petrusich, It Still Moves: Lost Songs, Lost Highways, and the Search for the Next American Music (Macmillan, 2008), pp. 239-240. I found this on google books at: http://books.google.com/books?id=5w9nVLtRSgwC&pg=PA239&dq=%22punk+folk%22&lr=&as_brr=3&ei=jQpLSp6wOoS8yQSYxaD0DQ (But the link might not work for you). This suggests, as we suspected, Indie Folk is a catch all, which suggested to me that we should make that a summary article of the others and think about possible mergers if there are two articles about the same thing under different names.--Sabrebd (talk) 07:21, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
As far as I can tell from the, sometimes impenetrable, articles and some other reading, Counterfolk, Un-folk and Anti-folk are related, and in a different grouping are Neo-folk, Folktronica and Techno-folk. Nu-folk has already been replaced with a redirect to Freak folk, but I think Indie folk will be more appropriate. I think you are right about New Weird America, its not a genre at all, but a term that covers several developments, Freak folk and modern Psych folk seem to be in that, anti-folk might be as well. Sorry, I am rambling now, trying to sort this all out in my bruised mind.--Sabrebd (talk) 14:55, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
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