User talk:Will Beback/Revisions
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Stop Leaving Messages on My Talk
I don't know you, nor do I want to. Quit leaving messages on my talk.-CaneMan 00:42, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
Conflict resolution request
I added to the discussion section of the criticism part of a University of Miami [[1]] article. Unofortunatly, someone deleted my discussion section piece- twice, and did not respond as to why nor adress my points. Instead, the individual replaced my points with their own. I would very much like help mediating a resolution in terms of the grievances addressed (found in the history section of the discussion-mostly clarification of the article's sentences and refrenceing an author of a qoute). I'm not completely sure what the problem is, to tell the truth. However, the "crticism" section's discussion is long (its not until the very bottom that my part comes up) and I think theres alot thats been running back and forth, and this may have somthing to do with how this person(s) responded.
I feel, though, that citing their source to a qoute and clarifying the articles sentences is needed, at least. I would very much appreciate some of your time for mediation, please review the history part, at the very bottom of the page, of the criticism section of the University of Miami article. Thank you very much — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.171.49.177 (talk)
- Please get a username so that other editors can communicate with you more easily. I've restored the deleted comments. Let's assume good faith, the other editor may have blanked your comments by mistake. Thanks for discussing the dispute on the article talk pages. I'll keep an eye on the matter - let me know if you need more help. Cheers, -Will Beback 18:59, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Hmm
Am I missing something? Causality maybE? — HopeSeekr of xMule (Talk) 21:17, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the kind words, Will! I had great fun taking the pics, but it's even more fun finding uses for them on Wikipedia. Infratec 11:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
Cyberstalking
Can you state your reasons for removing content at Cyberstalking? It showed up as pozssible blanking vandalism on my RC patrol screen. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 22:22, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- It is the text of a deleted article, gang stalking, that the author has tried to recreate repeatedly. -Will Beback 22:25, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- But some of the material is salvageable...
Do you have a link to the AfD for that article?≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 22:34, 3 January 2006 (UTC)- Most of it looks like original research. -Will Beback 22:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
- But some of the material is salvageable...
Will be back as what?
Just curious - why did you change your username? Marcuse 02:46, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- Curious editors. -Will Beback 06:52, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
User formerkly known as Willmcw, and reason for name change
go here [2] and scroll toward the bottom for judgement of wiki admins against User:Willmcw who is now User:Will Beback. It seems clear this user is attempting to distance himself from these official rulings against him. notice each one was unanimous. It is important to follow closely now because it appears he is reverting at will another article under the same tactics,
Former username: user:Willmcw
W.W. Behrens, Jr. :: Future Thought Leadership as MentorshipART
See also
These articles provide some perspective on W.W. Behrens, Jr.'s transforming his Art of War (Zero Sum Game) military academy training.
He became an interdisciplinary engineer-scientist who championed an alternative (All-WinWin) Art of Peace using social networking ...
RJBurkhart 12:40, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Username change
A reminder that you need to redirect your previous userpage before the name change. Also, your old account needs to be blocked indef so no one can impersonate you and this page protected. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 16:43, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- Where do you find all of this? I asked around about how to do all of this and those steps weren't mentioned. -Will Beback 17:04, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- Read Wikipedia:Changing_username#Instructions. That is what I did when I changed my username just recently:
- Recreated and blocked my previous account to prevent someone else creating the account and impersonating me.
- Moved and redirected my userpage and talk page to my new name.
- ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 19:40, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- I didn't change my username. I'm stopping use of one and starting use of another. The old account still exists. Thanks though. -Will Beback 19:46, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- So you have now two accounts with admin privileges? That seems quite unusual... If you have decided to switch names for good, I would suggest that your request a deletion of the old account and still go through the username change. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 19:56, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- No, the admin flag was transferred to this username. There were too many edits, over 20K, to go through a username change. -Will Beback 19:58, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- I had 10,000 edits but after asking nicely the devs managed to do the name change during off-peak time... Nevertheless, I would think that the name change instructions still apply to you, because the only reason you had to do it this way was the number of edits on the previous account. You may want to ask the bureaucrat that assisted you with the admin privilege switch for clarification. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 20:08, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help. I'm not doing a name change, so I'm not following the name change instructions. I have followed the instructions that Angela gave me. Obviously this is not a step that I've taken lightly, but I needed to do something to cut down on the number of editors trying to harass me by posting (what they presume is) my personal information. I appreciate your understanding. -Will Beback 20:21, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- I see. I changed my username for the same reason, but was asked to redirect my old userpages to the new ones. As for my oppose vote to your nomination to the mediation committee, I hope you don't take it personally. I respect you as a capable editor, but I sincerely don't think you have the necessary aptitude for that role. Hope that my vote will not impair our ability to continue collaborating in WP. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 00:15, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your help. I'm not doing a name change, so I'm not following the name change instructions. I have followed the instructions that Angela gave me. Obviously this is not a step that I've taken lightly, but I needed to do something to cut down on the number of editors trying to harass me by posting (what they presume is) my personal information. I appreciate your understanding. -Will Beback 20:21, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- I had 10,000 edits but after asking nicely the devs managed to do the name change during off-peak time... Nevertheless, I would think that the name change instructions still apply to you, because the only reason you had to do it this way was the number of edits on the previous account. You may want to ask the bureaucrat that assisted you with the admin privilege switch for clarification. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 20:08, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- No, the admin flag was transferred to this username. There were too many edits, over 20K, to go through a username change. -Will Beback 19:58, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
- So you have now two accounts with admin privileges? That seems quite unusual... If you have decided to switch names for good, I would suggest that your request a deletion of the old account and still go through the username change. ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 19:56, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
Edits
Will why were my edits on the BAPS article reverted? I have justified my reasons for editing in the discussion page.
- I've responded at Talk:BAPS. -Will Beback 06:20, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
I still love you
...oh my yes. We'll be absolutely IRRITATING! All year! It's going to be GREAT! I was up until 3:30am last night; I'm tired, hung over, and thoroughly satisfied. ;) · Katefan0(scribble)/mrp 16:06, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Unsiged dis'es
If civility was important to you, you would have critized all parties to the debate, rather than just single me out. You might have also signed your comment. I can take criticism, but if calling comments "balderdash" is acceptable (you didn't criticize it), now I know the correct lingo to use, although balderdash and useless are somewhat similar. Carlossuarez46 22:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Thank you
Part of the problems is that all these categories are inescapably arbitrary, and there is overlap of all kinds. Thank you for being reasonable. Haiduc 23:32, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
Re: Biff Rose # 2
Thanks for the reply. I'll reply on WP:MC soon. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 22:13, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
David R. Hawkins' knighthood
Hello. I was wondering if you would mind taking the time to research Hawkins' knighthood claim and edit his entry with what you find? Perhaps add an entry for the source of his knighthood as well? I remember you wrote that the Prince he referenced does not exist. Many websites still say the "Danish crown" knighted him. I would research it, but I don't really have time to, and I respect that you already started down this path. Thanks for the consideration. --66.31.144.141 22:46, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
Can....
Can you remove the Clean-up tag on Fictional resistance movements and groups ? Martial Law 05:21, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
Please stop
...harassing me.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Morton devonshire (talk • contribs)
Would you please just leave me alone! Morton devonshire 01:49, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Why did you delete my comment?
Discussion page of W. Patrick Lang. Was it something I said?--csloat 02:17, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks - I figured it probably wasn't intentional but I guess you never know :) -csloat 02:45, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
National Review article
That National Review article is highly biased and is not a good reference. I'm not saying I disagree with it, I really don't care. But opinion pieces are not proper references. I'm going to ask for a third opinion though. It might be ok if there is some trustworthy info. --DanielCD 03:46, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
- I've responded at talk:Curley v. NAMBLA. Cheers, -Will Beback 03:59, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
- Likewise, I replied there. I think you are right. Cheers x 2. --DanielCD 04:08, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
Oh so this is you!
Irritating
Yes, we will be absolutely irritating. We have been waiting on this opportunity for quite some time. My goodness what a great game. I would love to meet you again in Tempe if it will be a similar event. We each have to bring along new QB's though. I bet the Buckeys are licking their chops for their rematch with us in Sept. And of course if ou gets that Peterson guy to stay healthy... Anyways, thanks for the congratulations - you Trojans were a worthy foe! Johntex\talk 04:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for message
Virago
Just got your message. Wow! And thank you! Slrubenstein | Talk 15:12, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
I have never vandalised Wikipedia
I have never read this article on 'Cattle' until today. I must say that I found your note to me somewhat offensive as I never vandalised wikipedia or even looked at the article you refer to. It may be that every AOL user comes up the same (as we sem to be classified as multiple users) but rest assured I have not done anything untoward. Ben
baps etc
I wish that I could say "sure, no problem!", but I don't think that it will be quite that easy. I think that the followers of these sects are more interested in a PR outlet than in contributing to a collaborative encyclopedia. There is probably an emailing-list out there somewhere encouraging followers to systematically revert to the dogmatic versions. I will see what I can do however. — goethean ॐ 18:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Will Beback abuses power
there is an RfC and a few other procedures going on about you in admin land, as you know. You're latest move has bee ndocumented as an abuse of power. one who yearns for meditation title perhpas should not so frequently ban those that they disagree with in edits of an article, should they? you go girl!!!216.175.117.65
Congratulations...
...you've been called a rouge admin.
My bad
On the Hilton thing.
I'll retire for the day.
grazon 21:37, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
Vandalism, again
Hi, Jonah Ayers has been back to vandalizing Biff Rose with IP: 216.244.3.79 and sock User:Peter hopetter. Maybe they can be added to your block list? Marcuse 04:20, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
Reconquista
Will, are you still an admin? Can you block User:216.178.51.241? He/she has vandalized (blanked portions of) Reconquista (Mexico)'s talkpage twice--or maybe just warn him/her? Thx.--Rockero420 00:49, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
Cyberstalking the Merkey Page -- Only Warning
Alter, edit, or vandalize the Merkey page, and you will be added to www.merkeylaw.com as a cyberstalker. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.137.28.189 (talk)
- Gotta love this Jeff Merkey character... I have been editing his page since before Christmas and quite a few times and have not even gotten one single warning... and all you have to do is edit once... no fair LOL
- Go check his webpage... it is worth the trip and quite hilarious. --Kebron 23:53, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
- I'm just lucky, I guess. -Will Beback 00:04, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Could you please stop the guy at Reconquista
I think I have run into him on many civil rights wikis. It seems his sole purpose is to vandalize those pages. Is there anyway to put a stop to these constant edit wars? Mosquito-001 01:30, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- I've placed a request at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. -Will Beback 01:48, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Categories
Thanks for your kind words, much appreciated :) -- Ze miguel 09:22, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
LBU editing
Admins are permitted to protect and then edit protected articles so long as they aren't involved in the dispute beforehand. Because I wasn't involved in the article (with the exception of one revert during RC patrol) prior to the protection I believe I can. Also its the only way I see moving the article forward. - RoyBoy 800 15:50, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Fiat POV?
How is the term "fiat currency" POV?
Def: "money issued by government fiat" that is not POV, it is a matter of fact.
Search4LancerFile:Pennsylvania state flag.png 23:32, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
- It implies illegitimacy. "Legal tender" is the conventioonal term. -Will Beback 23:36, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Snowshoes
Thanks. I meant to add only the image and some supporting text but as I lingered over the article, I noticed that there were a lot more improvements that can, and still could, be made.
You know, it could be a featured article despite its relative brevity if we get a little more in it and adequately reference it (and go through peer review, of course). Daniel Case 03:44, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the clean-up on this article, nice work. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.237.129.165 (talk)
- No problem. Thanks for getting the article started. Cheers, -Will Beback 20:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Feel free to hop in at any time; the article and talk discussion could do with some fresh perspective after all this time :) .:.Jareth.:. babelfish 21:13, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
CantStandYa
I suppose I won't be surprised if it turns out 24.0.91.81 was Shran. Ah well, I guess it's better to err on the side of caution. —Viriditas | Talk 04:23, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- That's precisely why I asked the user to leave you a message, but I don't think he did. In any case, if you think the tag should be replaced, add it back. --—Viriditas | Talk 05:53, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Category sort
Oops - thanks for the reminder. I did forget about that. Johntex\talk 23:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Re: sub pages
Sorry about that. It's a format that I'm using on wikicities, and I was working on the wrong site. Go ahead and delete them.
As far as tracking the members of all the various boards, these are some of the most powerful people on the planet, in many cases with more influence than our elected officials. So many conspiracy theory websites try to tie the individuals together, I thought it would be worth it to bring a Neutral point of view to the subject, and bring it under the scrutiny of the Wikipedia Community. Chadlupkes 00:24, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Now I get it
You're a retaliatory editor. You don't like my edits on one of your pet pages, so you go and revert all of my recent changes on multiple pages. Bad form willbeback. Morton devonshire 02:36, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Please make sure your edits are all good, then there won't be any questions. Thanks, -Will Beback 02:38, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- unless they disagree with your political point of view, of course. Don't try to hide behind the label of good editing. Facetious. Morton devonshire 02:41, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- The AFD tag was improperly placed. The article, which is still being edited, was up for less than 2 minutes before it was marked. Not much of a process if you don't have a chance to even edit an article. I think you are harassing me, and if you continue, I will report you to an administrator, which seems to have happened to you numerous times. Morton devonshire 02:54, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- There is no minimum time for AfDs. The article was up for seven minutes when it was AfD'd. Almost an hour has passed with no further dvelopements. Meanwhile you've violated the 3RR and acted like a vandal. -Will Beback 03:01, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- You've targeted several of my articles, and I'm the vandal? Morton devonshire 03:04, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- More accurately, I've cleaned up edits because they appeared to intentionally violate the NPOV, to introduce incorrect information, or to circumvent normal Wikipedia procedures. Please make sure that your edits never do those things. Thanks. -Will Beback 03:16, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
List of ethnic slurs
I never thought that a simple attempt to improve the quality of an article would create this sort of a mess. I don't understand why people are adamantly opposed to improving the accuracy of our articles. Guettarda 03:20, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- Indeed. Getting this list verifiably-sourced is important. It's one of the worst I know. -Will Beback 04:37, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Re: Spam
You wrote me recently and asked if I would stop putting links up to my site. I assume you are referring to the links I embed in bibliographic citations. I am new to Wikipedia and don't wish to do anything wrong or that will offend anyone, but when I put links, they are to pages I have about those books mentioned, where there is often additional relevant reading material available, so I didn't think that I was doing anything incorrect. I am a 72 year old senior professor of history at Umass Boston and have published a variety of books, in both gay studies and ancient history. I was the co-editor of the Encyclopedia of Homosexuality, which is still regarded as the most thorough text of its kind, so you can see that I am not some sort of cheap vandal. I simply feel that there are many articles on this cite which pertain to my work, and I feel fair in adding the appropriate works in the appropriate places. Like I said; though, I don't wish to do anything wrong, and I would like to be a healthy member of the Wikipedia community, as I firmly believe in the potential of this site. If you can point me to the regulations of the website of which I am unaware, I would be much obliged. -William percy 05:00, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
IRC?
Could you drop by #wikipedia - I'd like to talk with you about your request. JesseW, the juggling janitor 06:06, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Mediation Committee
Hi Will,
in the apparent absence of our chairman, allow me to welcome you to the Mediation Committee. Please make sure you have read and understood Wikipedia:Mediation, and you'll figure out the rest as you go along. If you could add your email address or link to {{Medcom}}, I'd be grateful, and you can also join the not-very-active mailing list.
Congratulations on your vote! — Asbestos | Talk (RFC) 15:45, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Congratulations. And with the added incentive to prove me utterly wrong, I hope you become an excellent mediator. :) ≈ jossi ≈ t • @ 16:29, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Congrats esse. Is like, you deserve it, joo know? Is good, is very good. Shaggorama 10:28, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
Congrats!! I wholeheartedly approve! At times, in my dispute, I have found you maddeningly patient, fair, and even-handed towards the "other" side as well as mine....which may sound a little backhanded, but is in fact significant evidence of your suitibility for the role of mediator. You are a force of positivity. Cheers and all my very best. ---Sojambi Pinola 07:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
I think...
...that while some of these articles describe fabulous people, they'd probably not survive a round at AfD, as their assertions of notability are noble but rather weak and, er, self-referential. And maybe slightly incorrect. · Katefan0(scribble)/mrp 18:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
- I agree, but there is an assertion of notability, primarily involvement with an environmental activist group. It's an extraordinarily weak assertion, IMO, but it is there. So, though it's imminently borderline, this article just meets my "not a speedy" standards, by a hair, and I would normally send it to AFD to judge its assertion of notability. I would say, though, that the assertion is weak enough and its creation smelly enough that if you tag it as speedy someone else might nuke it. · Katefan0(scribble)/mrp 19:24, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
3rr violations on Biff Rose by User:Sojombi Pinola
he admits it. If you don't block him, you will play into the hand of an already building arb com case against you, sandboxed, and created by another user until such time as you don't exercise equal and fair duties. you need to block this user as you'v eblocked me for the very same violation.Jonah Ayers 06:01, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
User talk:Davenbelle
In general, I am not in favor of deleting userspace talk pages for the reasons you indicated, but in this case Davenbelle asked me by email to do so, and so I honored the request (I indicated this in the edit summary). If you or any other admin wishes to undelete that page, go ahead, but please leave a message there justifying your doing so. -- Viajero | Talk 14:47, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
David Drier
You made a post on the David Drier page regarding the 2006 elections and the possibility of him running for the senate. Could you please repost the information with a source or could you make a personal post on my user page regarding where you heard this and where I could look for further information on this. Thank you. Dapoloplayer
Hi, I'm messaging you because you're listed as having recently edited this article. What is going on with this article? I saw that the name changed again, its been protected, is tagged NPOV disputed, etc. Is it coming into shape, or what? Per some discussion starting with the article's AfD a couple weeks back, I created a project structure to address this article, here: User:Herostratus/Pedophilia I'm not now up to speed on article, so I'm asking current editors -- Do you think this would still be useful, or what? Thx Herostratus 14:43, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
SOS
You've probably already noticed, but I'm asking the editors who were squabbling over Save Our State to look at my proposed version User:Rockero420/Save Our State. Would you mind doing the same?--Rockero420 22:06, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
Bandini
- I've always thought that Arcadia Bandini de Stearns Baker deserved an article . . . . -Will Beback 04:53, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
See Arcadia Bandini de Stearns Baker. Please fill it out, if you know more, as she's more of a LA-area figure than San Diego Dananderson 06:09, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Concept of "Child Sex Offender"
This concept didn't exist in 1950. Also, at 16 years old, that's pushing the boundaries a bit. But this "label" is not going to stand in this case. We aren't going to go rewrite history with modern concepts. You can revert it, but I'm going to put it back and we'll call for mediation. I've let a lot of stuff go, but inventing material like this is starting to go too far. Please respond at the Cat:CCSO talk page or at my page so we can find a way to work together and not at cross ends. I think it is more a matter of definition than personal ideation. --DanielCD 15:43, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Please refer to the discussion at Category talk:Convicted child sex offenders. Thanks. --DanielCD 16:00, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- I hope you will bear with me and accept this message of my good will.
Sometimes when I try to sound assertive, it comes across as a little too agressive. Lately I've been concerned about quality in Wikipedia, and I'm trying to find a niche where I can focus my efforts on improving things such as definitions and citations. I am able to agree to disagree as well; so if we disagree on something, I don't in any way see that as a threat to our friendship (which I hope we can say exists). I gave up on the Ped. Advocacy article because it seemd like everyone is arguing "apples and oranges". People are using the same words, yet each meaning totally different things, and this is why people can't reach consesus.
In this regard, I'd like to refer you to the commendable efforts of Herostratus at User:Herostratus/Pedophilia. This is exactly the kind of "can do" "take the initiative" spirit we need right now (IMHO).
Anyway, peace and goodwill. --DanielCD 21:01, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
- Given the fact that I am not able to back up my statements, I think my initial statement about calling for mediation was a little premature and uncalled for. I think a little progress is being made though. I have left some other small comments at the Cat. talk page. --DanielCD 14:23, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- Go ahead and re-add the cat at Edward Brongersma if you feel it needed. Me and the others will continue to work on the definitions at the category talk. Please join in if you care to.
- And feel free to ask for clarification if something sounds odd in my comments. I'm kinda old fashioned, used to the face-to-face discussion, and sometimes get confused talking when I can't see a face in front of me. Cheers! --DanielCD 21:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
Did you mean to delete the John Birch Society link when you were reverting that uncommented text deletion earlier? If so, why? If not, I'll be happy to add it back. Dick Clark 23:20, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
- No, that was a mistake. I must have inadvertently edited an out-of-date version. You can add it back, or I'll do it. Thanks for noticing. -Will Beback 23:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
Please Take This Case
Talk:Hinduism/Temp
I guess it is being used as a sandbox. In that respect it does serve some purpose.
Sources
Could you help me with a simple question? Just for my information, because I really don't know, when editing a controversial topic, is it allowed to insert comments by critics based upon editorials? Or does that constitute NPOV violation? You can answer here, but to get an idea of what I mean you can look for more info at Talk:Samuel_Alito#Opponents_of_the_unitary_executive_theory and at Talk:Samuel_Alito#Requests for comment.--Nomen Nescio 07:26, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
Peter Deunov page
Hello Will Beback, your support on this issue is really appreciated, I didn't expect such a quick response!
Hi, Will Beback. I was about to contact an administrator about this issue but noticed your note on Quartz's page. I didn't recognize your new avatar but remember your previous one well although I don't recall working with you directly.
Thank you for your supporting comments on the talk page for Peter Deunov. I added cleanup tags to Peter Deunov and Omraam Mikhaël Aïvanhov and justified those tags on the respective talk pages. Great White Brotherhood and Paneurhythmy seem to be edited by the same anons as well, and have similar problems. I'm inclined to wait a bit on those rather than trying to do everything at once. I'd be grateful if you would take a look at what I've done and make any changes or comments that you deem appropriate. This isn't one of my areas of interest or expertise, but I'll work on it as I have time.
What do you think of asking Sam Spade to take a look? He is interested in religion and Christianity. The article would benefit from his involvement, I think, and it might provide him with a good outlet for his considerable energy. I'd welcome your thoughts. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 06:07, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- Sam Spade is interested and willing to help when he has time. I'll contact a couple of other editors as well. I'm adding the noncompliant tag to the four articles; if you have a better suggestion, I'd welcome it. Best wishes, Walter Siegmund (talk) 21:30, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Advice
Per your experience as a mediator, there is a couple having a squall at Henri Poincaré (see the talk page). I was hoping you might help me decide how to deal with it as I'm not a mediator and know little about Henri Poincaré. I refered them to RfC, but I don't know if that will take or not. Suggestions? --DanielCD 00:03, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks so much for the offer. Ya know, I think I am actually making progress though. Let me see if I can ride it out. --DanielCD 00:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- The change being demanded by this anon is a stylistic change, and I'm not really sure why he's so adimate about it. You can read near the bottom that he wants the "works" section between the "early" and "late" life sections. Why, ...? Of all the conflicts I've been involved with...I don't see the why in this (and you've been party to some of those!) I'm just hoping they'll sleep on it and settle down. It's just this one anon, wanting this simple change. People are the most fascinating thing about Wikipedia. --DanielCD 01:07, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
LA History
Thanks for your note. I didn't realize I was writing on an archive page. And you're right. I need to research my sources again, but my memory generally serves me well when I come up with these historical anecdotes. This is why I didn't even attempt to edit anything at this point. I had a good talk with one of the curators of the El Pueblo Monument one time, and we discussed alot of material which surrounded Olvera Street and all the history about it. At the time he was working on a Master's thesis on the Pueblo. I even began translating the Avila Adobe brochure into three other languages. I came upon a lot of information that was new to me and had been more recently researched than the Britannica of 1911. Nor am I saying that the Britannica is not factual. But I have found a lot of modern-day research that retells stories from sources that have never before been uncovered. And I am not referring to history revisionism, just newer research brought to light.
Mmanning 07:41, 28 January 2006 (UTC)Mmanning
Virago and Asian fetish
The same editor who keeps reinserting the removed content on Virago seems to also be editing Asian fetish. Perhaps you would like to take a look. --cesarb 16:01, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for your note. You may recall that I was involved in the discussion related to Virago. Please take a look at my latest note on the discussion page re: NPOV. I'm out of reverts for the day and could use some help. Sunray 03:35, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
Titles in article titles
You say "We don't use titles in article titles". This is ridiculous! An article title is a title. Georgia guy 20:34, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
Can you look in
In case you didn't see my last post, could you take a look at Asian Fetish? Thanks. Sunray 03:38, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
You probably didn't know this but...
Zen-master is actually banned from "title renaming" discussions. He just got blocked a 2nd time for discussing WP:Conspiracy theory. Don't worry. You didn't cause it. :) Just a heads up. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 12:51, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
The Never Ending Story
User:Winter x
User:Vomus titus
--Sojambi Pinola 23:17, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- Yeah, and you missed some. -Will Beback 23:18, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
User:Elvis troyko --Sojambi Pinola 23:59, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
- I understand your reversion at Sierra Club. If I have a spare moment, I'll take a stab at an NPOV paragraph. -- hike395 02:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
User:Skunksville
User:Dimes for eyes
--Sojambi Pinola 07:19, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
Name change?
Willmcw, is that you? --Gramaic | Talk 02:34, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
MLK Edit
Will, I was trying to reword something in the paragraph, and I lost some words where I placed black. I am sorry for the error. I didn't realize about the reasons for edit box was required, and I don't know where it is. KansasCity 03:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Usenet
I'm sorry for butting in but you just deleted just about every single thing I edited. Please try to be more collaborative and friendly. Usenet isn't reliable for outside information but that's not what I linked to Usenet for at all. All of the things I described with Simpson and Epperson are about events that happened on Usenet itself with Sebesta. All three of them post there all the time. Simpson and Epperson are always criticizing Sebesta, and Sebesta always uses Usenet to do his political campaigning. He is rather (in)famous for all the stuff he does on Usenet. You can even email Sebesta, Epperson, or Simpson and they'll tell ya the same stuff.
- Be that as it may, you used the Usenet as the reference. The Usenet is not reliable, nor do we know that those who claim to be certain people are actually those people. -Will Beback 08:14, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Epperson and Simpson post on soc.history.war.us-civil-war This is a moderater-controlled Usenet group (Epperson is one of the moderaters) so you can verify who their postings are. They block impersonaters to the non-moderated ones, and all the posts I gave match the UNIQUE logins and isp's used by Simpson and Epperson on their moderated group.
- Let's discuss this on the article's talk page, Talk:Edward H. Sebesta. I'll move your comment over there. And please don't forget to sign your comments. Thanks, -Will Beback 08:20, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
dab
You signed dab's rfc twice. — goethean ॐ 16:14, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
Editing protected pages
I just mentioned the articles on the Lolicon talk page in case someone was interested. I only thought about putting them in seriously when I got curious as to policy on admins editing locked pages. I've never been there before and the policy doesn't specifically say you can't. I just wanted to get a buzz on what others thought. --DanielCD 02:35, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yea, I read that, thanks. It says not to make substantial changes. It kinda leaves minor changes out, as if they are differed to judgement. It's not really a big deal; I'd just hate to make a minor change to a locked page and have the "locker" admin get miffed. I guess if it's a minor change, it can probably just wait though. Cheers x2. --DanielCD 02:45, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
Attempts to delete/vandalize by Infinity0
Please tell that to User: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Infinity0
Since he was constantly trying to vandalize the article, I did not delete anything anybody else had written, all I did was prevent him from deleting relevant materials that had not been discussed.
I think this is more than I really want to deal with, but will continue as I have if it seems constructive. I'd appreciate a bit of coaching when you have time, however. Also, how should the posting of long non-English missives be handled?--Walter Siegmund (talk) 22:33, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
- Thank you for taking the time to look at this article and for your help with it. Mostly, I'm pleased to know that I'm more or less on the right track so far.--Walter Siegmund (talk) 13:17, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Kevin B. MacDonald
Re: Talk:Kevin B. MacDonald#Paleoconservatism: Jacrosse seems to be adopting a pattern I've seen before: if people give reasoned argument on the talk page against his edits, but don't jump in and change the article, he doesn't provide counter-argument. As far as I've been able to tell, the only way to engage him in discussion is to edit-war, because he sure won't walk away from a disagreement while a version other than his is in the article. I find this really annoying, myself: I'd rather settle things by discussion. In this particular case, I think he's factually wrong, but I also don't think the issue is terribly important. What do you think about this (either in specific of in general)? - Jmabel | Talk 06:18, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for responding on the general issue. More specifically: do you think the MacDonald matter is worth pursuing? - Jmabel | Talk 06:41, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Virago talk page
There is a note on the Virago talk page that you moved the contents to: Talk:Virago/Classical anthropology, but, of course, nothing appears there. We need to have access to that content via links, so I am restoring it to the Virago talk page. I think it best to leave it there for now, unless you have a better idea. Sunray 15:21, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Oh, oh, I couldn't locate the material at all. It is no longer in the history of Talk: Virago. Would you please fix this? Sunray 15:26, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- It would be good to have access to the material. I'm not sure what can be done about it, but it does need to be documented. Some of the material on that talk page is evidence of a particular POV that is being pushed. Sunray 17:05, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for posting that material to the temp page. Unfortunately it is of a later vintage and very similar to what he has been saying more recently on Talk: Asian fetish. The material I am looking for is part of a lengthy discussion on Talk: Virago, before the AfD. I'm sure it exists somewhere in cyberspace, so will keep looking. If you have any thoughts on this, they would be most welcome. Sunray 17:49, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- It would be good to have access to the material. I'm not sure what can be done about it, but it does need to be documented. Some of the material on that talk page is evidence of a particular POV that is being pushed. Sunray 17:05, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
- One of his early postings on the Virago page had some information on German anthropologist von Eickstedt's classification of races. When I googled some of the terms used, I got white supremacist sites. I would like to be able to show that link. Sunray 00:02, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Alex Padilla
Alex Padilla is a huge mess; it's driving me crazy. If you read the edit history from the start, it's clear that a pro-AP editor and an anti-AP editor are battling mightily over how to characterize him: Satan, or God. Since they seem to delight in mass deletions, my solution has been to just make sure everything stays, good and bad, so long as it's reasonable and/or properly sourced. Thoughts? jengod 19:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
Jonah Ayers
Hello Will, having encountered more of Jonah's sockpuppets (User:Severine and others) on User talk:SlimVirgin, I began thinking about two things. While I fully support blocking these accounts forever because of harassment, I'm sure that others are uncomfortable with it. Additionally, what do you view, if anything, as the long term solution to this problem? Thanks.--Sean Black (talk) 05:12, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
- Hmm, well, I suppose you're correct. I for one do hope that he eventually gives up, and it seems that that's all we can hope for. In any case, thank you, and I will keep trying to help however I can.--Sean Black (talk) 18:51, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Cosmotheism Disambiguation Page
Will, I am registerd user "Oklahoma" I anonymously edited the Cosmotheism page and was banned by Mel Etitis for "Vandalism". If you look at the history you will see that what I did was not vandalism. Since then I have registerd as user "Oklahoma". The issue under dispute is whether Mordecay Nesiyahu "created the term" Cosmotheism. I gave evidence on the discussion page that he in fact did not, but Mel did not respond, he just changed it back and locked the page. Is this how Wikipedia is supposed to work? I think that it gives Wikipedia a "black eye" when someone puts up information that is demonstrably false. Could you tell me why Mel Etitis would do this? Some help in restoring truth to the Cosmotheism Disambiguation page would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, registerd user "Oklahoma"
Mel Etitis has banned me
Will, Mel has banned me because he thinks I am "Paul Vogel". I am not Paul Vogel. I would think he could or you could verify this. He has banned me for simply proving him wrong about who "created the term" Cosmotheism. Now he's edited the page to read "prominent user of the term". I would submit that that is nonsense. Now, I'm not suggesting that Pierce be listed as "prominent user of the term", but he is more "prominently" connected to the term than Nesiyahu. What is Mel Etitis' motivation? Let me repeat, I am not Paul Vogel, I am the guy you had discussions with about Cosmotheism links on the white supremacy page. I am only interested in upholding truth and accuracy. I should not be banned. If you can't, or won't, help me with this then please tell me who I should talk to.
Thank you, Oklahoma
Categories are the connetions
Categories are the connections by which we browse the information. George W. Bush, which you admins maintain, is in the "Worst Actor Razzie" and you have the gaul to tell me that he is directly connected to that? Categories are infomraiton. A lot people are not "directly connected" to their almaa maters any more, but we maintain that information. I go and maintain all your dip-shit musical band categories that have become orphens in Special:Uncategorizedcategories just to keep the list down to size and you applaud me for that junk, and then this idiot who trying to maintain the "sacred space" of a dead woman who "got a little bit of publicity" in March 2005 and you give him the green light to once again destroy that infomation that I have just finishd building up. I, sir, finished all of the HARD articles in Wikipedia:External_peer_review/Nature_December_2005/Errors that everyone else gave up on when Xmas rolled around and never got back to just so that I could tell Jimbo that the damnned list was finished.
Are you a citizen of the U.S.? Believe it or not, Acts of the Congress of the United States MATTER. They are Important. Some important information is not-so-obviously "directly connected" as who-the-hell recorded a song on what C.D., and if wether they are deth metal or grunge, buddy. Do you conceed the point or do we take in up the line?
AND STOP THAT STUPID PERSON FROM RIPPING THEM OUT SO FAST! IT IS EASY TO DESTROY WHAT IS HARD TO BUILD UP. -- Pinktulip 22:41, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Look buddy: We some grunge band goes into the studio and cut a track for their next CD, that is about it. Real simple. The way that laws get passed in the United States is a little bit more complicated than that. The relationships are not so trivial. That is why it is good to be inclusive on the Important categories. The grunge bands can go ahead and be just as exclusive in their categories as they want to be, for all I care. On the Important stuff, I do not conceed the point. -- Pinktulip 22:49, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- I'm not following your comment. I am concerned about your usgae of the category:Terri Schiavo. I don't know what grunge bands have to do with it. -Will Beback 22:52, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Buddy: Terri Schiavo is like Abraham Lincoln. She belongs to the Ages. Laws were passed with her name on them at the national level. Once that happens, there is no turning back. For something of such Importance, worrying about hurting the feelings of dead woman is just not good enough of an excuse to remain Ignorant about What Happened. -- Pinktulip 22:54, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- Even people of the Ages have follow Wikipedia:categorization. I can see where either category:Terri Schiavo or Terri Schiavo should be in category:pro-life, etc., but not the other way around. -Will Beback 22:58, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
You can see that User:Marskell is to destroy/revert first and then smugly defend the status quo. If he wants to discuss each one in his destructive campaign, one at time, one per day, that would be great. But he has rather a sense or urgency about hiim, does he not? -- Pinktulip 23:10, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
- Please discuss the edits you make. I don't care about Terri Schiavo or User:Marskell - I care about the edits you are making to articles. Everytime I ask you a question you reply with a non-sequitor. -Will Beback 23:14, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Let me get this straight: While he has been given the green light to quickly destroy the infomation, which he is doing without any discussion, you are going to force a discussion on me about a long list of past edits, one at time, until, I expect, Marskell current destructive impulses are sated. First edit you insist on disucssing:
- TS_cat and/or TS_article and prolife_cat. One lousy edit. Do as you see fit. Next? -- Pinktulip 23:38, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
You gave him the green light, no disucssion. You leave me waiting here, stuck, while the destruction process continues. What kind of mediator are you? Are you there? Why did you take this case if you only have time to give him the green light and me the red light? Where are you? -- Pinktulip 00:04, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
- I have not taken this case as a mediator. I've tried to discuss this with you repeatedly, and you've changed the topic to George W. Bush, grunge bands, and other unrelated topics. Please read Wikipedia:categorization. I'd be happy to discuss it with you. Cheers, -Will Beback 00:11, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Request for admin help
If you're on now I'd like to discuss a request with you. I'm in the IRC channel #wikipedia and on AIM as JamesMLane. I have an ICQ account number around somewhere if you use that. Thanks. JamesMLane t c 23:39, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Request for Nicolaus Copernicus
Hope this isn't a bad place to ask, but I'm getting sick of the reverting to article Nicolaus Copernicus. The revert concerns, predictably, his nationality. Due to some evidence of his German ethnicity, and the ambiguous political situation of Prussia during Copernicus' lifetime, some users wish to delete the atribution "Polish", or place "Prussian" or "German" or "German-Polish" in its stead. The Polish users are, perhaps understandably, taking a hard-line. A message on the Polish wikipedians notice board reads "We have a troll denying he was Polish. Usuall stuff, but some monitoring is needed before this vandal gives up and goes away" (See: Wikipedia_talk:Polish_Wikipedians'_notice_board#Nicolaus_Copernicus), but there is more than one person opposed to the Polish line, and none of them can accurately be described as "trolls". I myself tried to negotiate a way to end it, but it didn't work. This is why I appeal to someone wish some experience and offical clout, so that the tiresome revert wars can come to an end. Perhaps a mediator will help both sides compromise, and perhaps also help establish some article-specific precendent that prevents the issue coming up again. Regards, - Calgacus (ΚΑΛΓΑΚΟΣ) File:UW Logo-secondary.gif 23:45, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Hypocrisy
Hey bub. Before warning people and threatening me with blocking like you so rudely did [8] why don't you keep your own house clean first? You reached the three reverts limit BEFORE I did and you have the gall to give me a warning? It's the same with all you liberal types - the rules apply to everybody but yourselves. Oh, and here's the evidence - all done before I reached #3 and before you took it upon yourself to "warn" me. 1. [9] 2. [10] 3. [11]. - Crawfishboil
Page move
It looks to me as if either you or the template got something garbled in your listing on Wikipedia:Requested moves. The move you've proposed is: The Nation (U.S. periodical) → The Nation (U.S. periodical). I'm going to be bold and change the first article to The Nation. I'll also add a link to the prior discussions, which ended up on the talk page of the dab page. JamesMLane t c 05:32, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
3RR
Please do not keep undoing other people's edits without discussing them first. This is considered impolite and unproductive. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia under the three-revert rule, which states that nobody may revert an article to a previous version more than three times in 24 hours. (Note: this also means editing the page to reinsert an old edit. If the effect of your actions is to revert back, it qualifies as a revert.) Thank you. - Crawfishboil
Thanks
[15]--Sean Black (talk) 06:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Portlanders
Yeah, it's slightly more complicated than face value. User:BalooUrsidae changed it to "born in Portland" because he believes that the definition of the word "Portlander" is someone who was born in Portland. (It's not.) I tried correcting it, but he switched it back. I tried confronting him on the issue, but all he does is insist that I'm "deliberately mis-stating". I'm hoping to let the thing diffuse a little before stepping in again. -- ChrisB 07:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Language
In talk pages or national notice boards using native language is accepted. --Molobo 10:46, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Haiku
Will: I need a little help from an admin, but I don't think the problem is big enough to take to WP:AN/I. There has been an anon adding a brand new, single-issue haiku journal to the haiku article. I have been deleting their not-yet-notable journal from the external links section. They have escalated to deleting the other (very notable) haiku journals plus other external links when they re-add their link (see this diff). This was the second time they have re-added their link AFTER I had left a warning message on the user page for their IP yesterday. I think that it's time to escalate to a 24 hr. block. See 82.109.147.190 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · filter log · WHOIS · RDNS · RBLs · http · block user · block log). BlankVerse 11:50, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
- Normally I'd give a spammer a few more chances, but additionally deleting the other links without an explanation is too much. My guess is that this person simply doesn't understand how Wikipedia works. Let's hope a short block will get their attention. -Will Beback 12:04, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks!
- From the list of contributors, it looks like it is going to be an interesting journal, but a quick look at some of the pages also showed what I considered a high degree of variability in quality. I guess that's to be expected from something that says it's experimental.
- My personal opinion is that since they deleted the links for a third time AFTER the warning, it was done deliberately to see if there was any teeth to the threat of being banned. BlankVerse 12:23, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
Category:Guerillas
I have listed the category you created, "Guerillas," as a candidate for speedy renaming. If you object, you should do so soon. Thank you. --Descendall 21:25, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
My Watchlist
Warning: You have been added to my watchlist. I will be watching your every edit and contribution. Expect anything you put down to be immediately vetted. Any false info or lies and your information will be deleted and your actions will be noted on your talk page. Enjoy the rest of your time at Wikipedia. 21:28, 8 February 2006 (UTC)GreatBarrington
On my talk page you asked what you did to deserve this. The answer is that I've recieved reports from friends and relatives that you have been editing some of their materials when they posted true information. I will say you shouldn't at all get the idea that I'm going to go around deleting everything you write. As long as it's true and unbiased I won't touch and in fact I'll thank you for it, given the dearth of quality contributions in many areas of the Wiki. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GreatBarrington (talk • contribs)
- As long as GB is objective you have nothing to worry about :) Oh well. David D. (Talk) 22:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)