Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop/Archive/Oct 2010

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Route of flight

Article(s): 1963 Elephant Mountain B-52 crash

Request: Hello! I would appreciate if someone could PLEASE draw me a map of the intended route of an aircraft (with time stamps / Location name). I would like to see the elevation of the terrain (not toooooo much detail) on the map since it is suspected the practice flight was supposed to take place close to mountain ranges and in valleys. The B-52C departed Westover AFB, Massachusetts which is located at 42°11′38″N 072°32′05″W at 12:11 p.m. The aircraft spent 95 minutes in the area. At 2:30 p.m. it crossed the Princeton, Maine VOR Station located at 45° 19' 45.12" N 067° 42' 15.13" W just south of Princeton, Maine, near West Grand Lake and head north to Millinocket. From there, it would and fly over the mountains in the Jo-Mary/Greenville area. At 2:52 p.m., just after passing Brownville Junction, the aircraft encountered turbulence. It subsequently crashed at 45°31′40″N 69°26′5″W on the western slopes of Elephant Mountain (Piscataquis County, Maine). The crew had further planned to turn northeast near Seboomook Lake and southeast near Caucomgomoc Lake to proceed through the mountains of northern Baxter State Park. After crossing Traveler Mountain, the aircraft was supposed to return to Westover AFB via Houlton VOR located at 02' 22.18" N 067° 50' 02.94" W.

In the beginning, between Westover AFB and Princeton, a dashed line would be good (since their actual flight path is unknown). Between Princeton and the crash site, a line (without dashes - it doesn't need to be completely straight, it can curve with mountain range) and the part of the route they did not fly anymore could be a thinner line (or different color).

I know, the most locations are not given in detail but you can just pick the middle of the lake or something in the area which would have given the low flying aircraft visual clues. I GUESS they avoided towns (since they were only flying 500ft high). If you can do that without sharp turns (airplanes have a hughe turn radius) please do so. A little scale on the bottom or side (statute miles and km) would be AWESOME) Thank you!!! WideBlueSky (talk) 02:26, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Edited coordinates of crash site in text! WideBlueSky (talk) 14:12, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion:

Map of Love Parade 2010 incident.

Article(s): Love Parade stampede

Request: I'd love it if someone can draw a map of the layout of the the Love parade 2010 incident. There are non-free examples of the layout and the accessroutes available [1] [2], [3]. The best would be if there were actually two maps, one of the layout, and one of the accident spot, highlighting the bridge and wall where the deaths occurred. I can help point them out if need be. —TheDJ (talkcontribs) 22:03, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Areal based illustration: http://www.wdr.de/themen/panorama/unfall07/loveparade/zoomify/index.htmlTheDJ (talkcontribs) 23:44, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
That is one amazing image for a mapmaker. Link it in the article prominently, please. I'll consider doing something with this, but I've got a lot of things in my queue. Lesqual (talk) 23:53, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]
You can get a 3MB openstreetmap SVG version of that area from here (link copied from the png file source, png changed to svg). OpenStreetMap is a vector-based website, and can export its maps as SVG files. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gringer (talkcontribs) 07:16, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Japanese empire

Article(s): Japanese empire

Request: Fix the South Pacific Mandate borders to the curvature of the globe. Essentially they follow the exact borders of the original TTPI. Thanks. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 11:44, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):

This type of thing is extremely difficult, particularly for open-ocean boundaries, and particularly without understanding the projection used. A vector artist will only ever be able to make a vague approximation, while a GIS user would have to guess-and-check the original projection in order to georeference it. The easiest solution is probably to start over with fresh GIS boundary data - would you mind tracking that down for us?Lesqual (talk) 19:57, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I went looking for a GIS file for the TTPI border and came up empty - I think the original map would be better off just deleting that border entirely. Kmusser (talk) 20:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've georeferenced and re-digitized the old naval chart for the TTPI, but that's not the end of the process. I guess I need to either A) figure out precisely what the projection is, make a map of that into an svg, and cut & paste the border area, or B) get the rest of the boundary data for the Japanese Empire and make an entirely new map. Would equirectangular or mercator as opposed to orthographic damage the artistic point the article is trying to make? Lesqual (talk) 16:22, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Mount Cayley volcanic field

Article(s): Mount Cayley volcanic field

Request: Colors need to be made wiki-friendly, looks like a good target for SVG conversion IMO. ResMar 16:48, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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This appears to be a simple recoloring & de-annotation of a work currently under Crown copyright. Is this eligible for WP use based on UK copyright laws? 173.79.52.233 (talk) 18:44, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]
It would be Canada not UK, but it should be ok, User:Black Tusk made the map and while it references a map under Crown copyright his is quite a bit different than theirs. If someone did want to make a completely new map using GIS the data is available to do so at http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/index.html. Kmusser (talk) 01:00, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

American Scouting overseas

Article(s): American Scouting overseas

Request: replace with standard wiki-style map, no meridians... Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 13:47, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Combined UK county map (Tyne & Wear, Northumberland and Cumbria)

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Article(s): Hadrian's Wall

Request: I'd like to complement the Wikipedia article on Hadrian's Wall with a route graphic. Would anyone be able to do something like the county ___location maps but combining Tyne & Wear, Northumberland and Cumbria? It's a little (a lot, if I'm truthful) beyond my skills, I'm afraid, but would be a useful addition to the article. Sammy_r (talk) 15:30, 15 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):   Done: Nilfanion (talk) 22:09, 22 September 2010 (UTC) I can do this from the OS OpenData I've been using to create the "new" county locator maps. This includes the route of the Wall so a basic map will be easy (The strongly related Hadrian's Wall Path is also included). Question is what precisely you want to display: Do you want a present-day map, an ancient map or some combination of both? Present-day info is easy and I could include modern admin boundaries, rivers, lakes, modern roads and cities. As the lake data includes eg Kielder Water showing the natural lakes only will be slightly harder.[reply]

If you want a primarily ancient map, I may be able to add on the Roman roads but this will take some time. If you can provide a latitude/longitude list of point locations such as towns and forts you'd want shown I can add those easily enough.--Nilfanion (talk) 19:15, 18 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I was really after a relatively simple map allowing the reader to see where the wall runs in relation to modern features (physical and/or political). The initial idea is to give a high-level idea of the route, e.g. "oh . . it runs through Carlisle along the R Eden, . . . it runs along the south of the Solway Firth, . . . it starts at that bend on the R Tyne.", etc., almost at a glance. Very much like the UK county maps currently do (very well IMHO) for non-linear features. However, if the reader can additionally have something that allows them to see it in more detail . . . well that would obviously be wonderful, though I must admit it was outside my original concept. Likewise with the more ancient map showing Roman roads (and preumably settlements). Totally brilliant, but well above and beyond the call of duty, as it were. Incidentally, I have the OS Roman Britain map, if you need bits of it scanning and sending. Thanks very much for considering my request. Sammy_r (talk) 22:10, 20 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
OK, well uploaded File:Hadrian's Wall map.svg, which shows relationship to rivers, modern counties and towns (the basic concept you had in mind). Any feedback on it appreciated. A more complex map is doable, but certainly would be hard. For what its worth I have the OS map too, and I'm thinking about how I could create a similar one from the free OS data...--Nilfanion (talk) 22:09, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Wonderful. You're a star! Many thanks for that. Sammy_r (talk) 10:50, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hermannstädter Stuhl - Josephinische Landesaufnahme

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Can anyone view the image resolve? Best version is from September 5.Asybaris01 (talk) 16:40, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Views fine at full resolution for me. You might want to convert your original to PNG format before compressing, noticed some small compression errors in the last version. Kmusser (talk) 17:08, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Update Starbucks map

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Article(s): Starbucks

Request: Please update Vietnam as Starbucks is now available in Ho Chi Minh city, Vietnam Josh (talk) 11:44, 11 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Graphist opinion(s):   Done Wereldburger758 (talk) 05:18, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]