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Hi, My Name is David Campbell
Member of the Peace and Freedom Party and lots more. Still getting my feet wet here at Wikipedia. Be gentle!
- I don't know if you saw my response on my talk page. I don't know much about the P&FP. Maybe you could add the missing presidential and gubernatorial candidates to the party's page? Schizombie 11:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
Peace & Freedom Party: Peltier
"(It should be noted that Peltier's conviction is disputed by Peltier, by the Peace and Freedom Party, and by many distinguished observers, as noted on Peltier's page. As such, referring to him as a "convicted murderer" appears POV - just as the designation "political prisoner" would be. The latter, at least, would more accurately reflect the Party's, and many others', characterization of Peltier.)" This isn't exactly encyclopedic style. The first sentence isn't bad, but "referring to him as a 'convicted murderer' appears POV" is more the sort of complaint you would raise on the talk page. Schizombie 02:55, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- Yes, that would be the sort of thing one would raise on a talk page. And I have no intention of getting involved in an "edit war." But just saying "convicted murderer" and then deleting the note that his conviction is disputed (and no, they aren't all) is the sort of thing that will provoke such. Let's find a better way. --Davecampbell 03:02, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- I certainly agree it wasn't right to just have the fact that he's a convicted murderer be in there without further comment on that. At the same time, it seems fair that the note that he is a convicted murderer was added - it is unusual that a party with "peace" in its name would have such a candidate (and not many presidential candidates are behind bars). Since that is unusual at first look, noting the party disputes his conviction, or the party views him as a political prisoner would seem fair to include in the article. If you have a citation where the party addresses that, even better. Schizombie 03:16, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
- I went back, deleted the new paragraph, and added "/political prisoner" after "convicted murderer". I did this after I saw that there is a page for Political Prisoners, and that Leonard Peltier is listed. The information on Peltier's page and external links there will be more useful to the curious than anything I could type in there. While it may be unusual for a party with "peace" in its name to put forth a candidate convicted (wrongly) of murder (isn't a party with "peace" in its name unusual in the first place?), such should not be surprising from a party with "freedom" in its name.
- I certainly agree it wasn't right to just have the fact that he's a convicted murderer be in there without further comment on that. At the same time, it seems fair that the note that he is a convicted murderer was added - it is unusual that a party with "peace" in its name would have such a candidate (and not many presidential candidates are behind bars). Since that is unusual at first look, noting the party disputes his conviction, or the party views him as a political prisoner would seem fair to include in the article. If you have a citation where the party addresses that, even better. Schizombie 03:16, 24 February 2006 (UTC)