Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Illustration workshop/Archive/Feb 2012
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Communist israelian flag
Out of scope
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Flag of Israel
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Flag of the Soviet Union
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Don't request too many at once, though
Article(s):
Request: Create a new file based on the israelian flag replacing israelian colors with soviet ones (red instead of white and gold instead of dark blue). 79.51.43.54 (talk) 14:45, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): What is this for exactly? NikNaks talk - gallery 21:08, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
- It's needed in this category.--79.51.43.54 (talk) 15:04, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
- No, we do not need those purely fictional flags on Commons, which is for stuff useful for educational purposes. Upload such files on Flickr.--Antemister (talk) 18:31, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
- We don't not need them either. There's plenty of fictional stuff on Commons, no rules against it. Fry1989 eh? 04:14, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- No, we do not need those purely fictional flags on Commons, which is for stuff useful for educational purposes. Upload such files on Flickr.--Antemister (talk) 18:31, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
"This specific page is the requests page for the illustration workshop. Anyone can make a request for an illustration to be improved or created for a Wikipedia article." I'm afraid this request falls outside the scope of what we do here. Jon C (talk) 06:13, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Draig aur
Insufficient information NikNaks talk - gallery
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Golden Dragon
Request: Redraw as SVG. Plus create a new SVG file by changing the colour of the dragon from gold to black and the colour of the flag border from gold to black too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.18.71.45 (talk) 11:11, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- We need more specific instructions. Do you want a solid Black Dragon (which means recolouring, and maybe changing borders etc. to a light grey/white so they are still visible, or just a monochrome (black and white) version of the colour file? Sorry if that sounds obtuse, but I'm not sure what you're trying to do here. Begoon talk 15:38, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
- Recolouring only the golden parts of the dragon as black as well as recolouring the borders on the dragon to light grey/white so they are still visible,etc. I also want the gold line going around the border of the flag changed to black too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.18.71.45 (talk)
Graphist opinion(s):I'm happy to create these SVGs for you, once you clarify the requirements for the "black" version. Begoon talk 02:51, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Ok - thanks for the clarification -
I'll look at these today or tomorrow for you Begoon talk 00:08, 3 January 2012 (UTC) Update:Sorry, due to personal stuff - I can't start these until the weekend (7 Jan). If anyone else fancies doing them before then, please do. If not - I'll do them then. Sorry for the inconvenience.Begoon talk 08:51, 4 January 2012 (UTC)Still trying to get to these but real life and computer problems not letting me - really sorry - I'll strike my "claim" and apologise, but promise I'll check back as soon as I can if nobody has done them. Again, very sorry to mess you aroundBegoon talk 09:24, 9 January 2012 (UTC)- What is this for? Is it a real or fictitious flag? NikNaks talk - gallery 20:16, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
- Apparently it's an old Welsh battle flag. See List_of_Welsh_flags#Battle_flags. -- Orionist ★ talk 21:38, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
- What about the black variation? NikNaks talk - gallery 22:09, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- Apparently it's an old Welsh battle flag. See List_of_Welsh_flags#Battle_flags. -- Orionist ★ talk 21:38, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
- What is this for? Is it a real or fictitious flag? NikNaks talk - gallery 20:16, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
Hawaii signatures
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Need to remove "Minister of Interior"
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Need to rotate and clean up first though.
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Need some clean up there is a swish that mix with the "o" and "k".
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One done. From the original document image file.
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Done but should not be used.
Article(s): John Edward Bush, Kekūanāoa, Henry E. Cooper, William Luther Moehonua, Kekāuluohi, Kalanimoku, Don Francisco de Paula Marín, Boki (Hawaiian chief)
Request: Please clean up these images and remove any extra letterings not part of the signature. Then vectorize these signatures and name them the same name with svg on the end. KAVEBEAR (talk) 18:52, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Boki done. Quite a number of the others are of rather low resolution, though. Do you know of any higher resolution copies? Martinor (talk) 03:57, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
- No I don't have any. Could you do Henry Cooper's signature, clean the original and vectorize it?--KAVEBEAR (talk) 00:49, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've made an attempt at it (see gallery). The source file did not have sufficient resolution (effective signature ~40x60px), and much of the signature is obscured by similar colored noise. The result is poor, and most damningly, many aspects of it was my interpretation. While it is now "clean" and "resolution independent", it is very much my drawing and is removed from a signature of HC. I recommend against using this in Wikipedia.
- Well If you don't think it should be used, could you delete it then? Sorry for the bother.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:42, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- As to the rest of the requests, much of it is of a similar nature, where the information content is simply too low to have anything done with it. This takes place either in large file size but very poor quality/blurry/grainy scans, or very small images. The requests were outstanding for several months because they are almost impossible to do well. Jon C (talk) 06:04, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- Really? How about the signatures for Kekauluohi, Keoni Kiwini, and Boaz Mahune? They are really high resolutions.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:37, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- They're larger files, but I personally consider them low quality scans where lines fade in and out. Others might bite... Jon C (talk) 18:34, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- Really? How about the signatures for Kekauluohi, Keoni Kiwini, and Boaz Mahune? They are really high resolutions.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 07:37, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've made an attempt at it (see gallery). The source file did not have sufficient resolution (effective signature ~40x60px), and much of the signature is obscured by similar colored noise. The result is poor, and most damningly, many aspects of it was my interpretation. While it is now "clean" and "resolution independent", it is very much my drawing and is removed from a signature of HC. I recommend against using this in Wikipedia.
Lauderhill Seal
Article(s): Lauderhill, Florida
Request: Do something with them... 98.77.3.196 (talk) 01:18, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Fixed request formatting for requester. Requester: in the future please use the supplied template, putting the graphics to be dealt with in gallery (i.e., not in the headline), provide associated article in the article box (so we know that it's a legit request for wikipedia), provide title of request, and check to make sure the page is correct. Most of the template text, for example, the "Brazil" and "do something with them" are meant to be replaced. You can see the other entries' coding for help by opening the "edit" button in a new tab/window. Jon C (talk) 03:01, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
International space station altitude chart
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Existing image
Article(s): International space station
Request: Would it be possible to integrate the above image with the following charts (2008/09, 2009, 2009/10, 2010/11, 2011) and make a chart with up to date information? U5K0'sTalkMake WikiLove not WikiWar 15:44, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): All these would be much easier (and accurate) to do with the raw data available. Do you know the source? Jon C (talk) 09:13, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
- Unfortunately I don't. If I knew where to get that, I probubly wouldn't have to bother you guys with this. The source of the graphs is heavens-above.com. --U5K0'sTalkMake WikiLove not WikiWar 15:29, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
Comment The screengrabs from heavens-above we can use without distraction caused by copyright. Chris Peat, the owner of the copyright (and website) has given me written permission to 'use any material' from his site, such as the images such as the images I added to the Heavens-Above article and I reasonably expect he would respond positively if any clarification is required. I have written asking him in regards to the raw data, and await his response. Penyulap talk 05:48, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
- no response from Chris Peat as yet. I'd suggest going ahead with it is a good idea, if there is interest. Penyulap talk 04:25, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
- Still no response from Chris Penyulap talk 15:52, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Response from Chris Chris says the chart of the ISS height comes from his database of historical orbital elements. When he downloads a new set of elements from the Spacetrack web site, the old ones are archived, not discarded. He suggests you can also request historical data from the Spacetrack site directly. Penyulap talk 04:21, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've requested an account with Spacetrack. I'll report back if my application goes through. Jon C (talk) 06:21, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
Data: So I've acquired an account on Spacetrack, and queried for ISS (1998-067A; cat# 25544). It spits (large volumes of) raw data, which I suppose someone could write code to parse --- but nowhere in that data do I see altitude. Is it referred to by another name? Jon C (talk) 12:13, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
- Unsure. It's true that there would be tons of data there and that's something I would expect that they would track. The Haz talk 02:25, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
- If anyone wants to look at what the satellite data contains, the data format is shown on this page. Jon C (talk) 09:09, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
- Orbit data is described in Orbital elements. Basically, the ellips is described in some six parameters. -DePiep (talk) 13:54, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- This website appears to take the TLE data, and calculate the satellite's altitude based on it. I don't know how easy this calculation is; probably mean anomaly and mean motion are all you need for a good approximation (both of which are given in the data).. but I'm not sure. Mlm42 (talk) 17:18, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Working backwards through that javascript source, the height is in position 40 of the output array, namely the calculated orbit radius (relative to the centre of the earth) minus the equatorial radius of the Earth. The orbit radius is the length of the hypotenuse of the triangle described by X0 and Y0 components of the perifocal coordinate system. X0 is calculated as semimajor axis * cos(E) - eccentricity. Y0 is calculated as semimajor axis * sqrt(1 - eccentricity^2) * sin(E).... Things get a little more complicated from here for this time of the night, I might pick it up again later. gringer (talk) 01:14, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
- This website appears to take the TLE data, and calculate the satellite's altitude based on it. I don't know how easy this calculation is; probably mean anomaly and mean motion are all you need for a good approximation (both of which are given in the data).. but I'm not sure. Mlm42 (talk) 17:18, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- Orbit data is described in Orbital elements. Basically, the ellips is described in some six parameters. -DePiep (talk) 13:54, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
- If anyone wants to look at what the satellite data contains, the data format is shown on this page. Jon C (talk) 09:09, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Outstanding suggestions for Top-4
Article(s): Various
Request: These are backlogged requests for the Top-4 in the Talk page. Some of them are more involved and may require extended time for fulfillment, so I've moved them here accordingly. All of these are requests to vectorize; some may have elements that were previously vectorized. Jon C (talk) 09:03, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
- I've made a start on the third: File:Coat of arms of the Kingdom of Bavaria.svg. Hopefully someone can take it and run? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 17:11, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- I've also created File:Bureau of Indian Affairs.svg, if someone could tweak the categories and usage, that would be great. Thanks! Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 23:03, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Logo of Rēzeknes Satiksme
Article(s): lv:Rēzeknes Satiksme
Request: Create SVG logo of Rēzeknes Satiksme from this photo --Dark Eagle (talk) 11:14, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s):
- I am willing to bet that logo is copyright in it's own country, and would be copyrightable in the US, so the svg would not be free. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 14:40, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks CO, but if someone will create logo of Rēzeknes Satiksme than I'll create article about this company. (it's like Rīgas Satiksme) --Dark Eagle (talk) 18:35, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Map of separatist moviments in UK
Not Done - Insufficient detail to proceed
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Map of separatist moviments in UK
Article(s): List of active separatist movements in Europe
Request: Colour Yorkshire in a different colour, as it also has an independence movement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.50.194.2 (talk)
Graphist opinion(s):
Is there consensus in the article talk page (or elsewhere) that colouring Yorkshire (rather than perhaps anywhere else too? Wessex? Ulster? or nowhere else?) is best for the purposes of the article? Begoon talk 12:16, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- I just want Yorkshire to be coloured in, not Wessex or Ulster. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.50.194.2 (talk)
Just adding an additional note that the filename is incorrectly spelt. It should probably be moved to File:Map of separatist movements in UK.svg, or maybe File:Map of separatist movements in the UK.svg, if it is to be used. I fixed the same spelling error in the article for you, here: [1] Thanks. Begoon talk 12:21, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- If the map is to be of any use, it needs to show all the separatist areas in the British Isles, and replace the current misspelled entry. It would then fit with the Spanish and French maps in the article. Are you guys able to do that based on the info in the article, or do you need some data as to where Wessex and Yorkshire are? Elen of the Roads (talk) 14:47, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- One of the problems with that is that many areas would overlap. England - Cornwall/Wessex : United Ireland - Ulster. With clever shading and labelling, it's not insurmountable, but why aren't we asking here, now I think of it: Wikipedia:Graphic_Lab/Map_workshop ? Begoon talk 14:51, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, the above was more musing than a request. If I were asking, I'd ask over at the map page. Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:52, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Yeah, I'm musing too, really. I'm not even sure it adds much to that list article as it is. I've removed it from the article and started a talk page discussion. It's not much use as it is, and it needs a much clearer plan before it gets requested anywhere. Begoon talk 17:00, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Sorry, the above was more musing than a request. If I were asking, I'd ask over at the map page. Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:52, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
Resolved
Logos of Companies
Article(s): Mongolian People's Party, Democratic Party (Mongolia), RT Documentary
Request: Remove "Монгол Ардын Нам" on the logo of Mongolian People's Party and Convert them into SVG. Thank you. --112.202.94.91 (talk) 00:37, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- How about the others? Remove necessary spaces. Thank you. --112.202.94.91 (talk) 03:33, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Observation: There is a problem at the soyombo of the vectorized logo of MPP. Could you find the logo (w/o "Монгол Ардын Нам") on this Facebook page and vectorize? --112.202.94.91 (talk) 03:39, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done - MPP. Jon C (talk) 03:03, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- Wait. See my comment above. --112.202.94.91 (talk) 03:58, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
- MPP middle messy bits is fixed with a tai-chi like piece. I still can't see what's at the top. Jon C (talk) 14:58, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey Jon, you can copy the symbols in the middle of the logo from File:Flag_of_Mongolia.svg. Cheers! -- Orionist ★ talk 00:05, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks Orionist for the find. This is fixed. Jon C (talk) 08:52, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
- Hey Jon, you can copy the symbols in the middle of the logo from File:Flag_of_Mongolia.svg. Cheers! -- Orionist ★ talk 00:05, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
- MPP middle messy bits is fixed with a tai-chi like piece. I still can't see what's at the top. Jon C (talk) 14:58, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
- Does vectorise not conflict with their non-free status? Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 14:53, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
- Not in a usual case like this, I think. Somewhere in the past I had a bunch of vectorized logos placed on deletion log, and they were kept after some discussion (and citing of policies). If anyone have a proper WikiPolicy for this, I'll setup a "relevant policy" page for graphists in my user space, so we can keep all these in close reference. Jon C (talk) 04:09, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
- Since a new duplicated request had been made, I'm marking this one as resolved. Jon C (talk) 15:15, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
- Not in a usual case like this, I think. Somewhere in the past I had a bunch of vectorized logos placed on deletion log, and they were kept after some discussion (and citing of policies). If anyone have a proper WikiPolicy for this, I'll setup a "relevant policy" page for graphists in my user space, so we can keep all these in close reference. Jon C (talk) 04:09, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Wide periodic tables
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Wide periodic table
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Another wide periodic table
Article(s): Periodic table, 7 (number)
Request: Please colour the cells for Mt, Ds, Rg, Uut, Uuq, Uup, Uuh, Uus and Uuo (refer to the periodic table article if needed) as #e8e8e8 (for unknown chemical properties). Double sharp (talk) 13:13, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Request taken by Gauravjuvekar (talk).: Please tell me where do you want the file-overwrite of new file(give new name). Right now, I have uploaded to File:Test.svgGauravjuvekar (talk) 17:50, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
- I would like the current File:Test.svg to be uploaded as a new file (with any reasonable name). This is to replace the (incorrect) pictures currently used in periodic table and 7 (number). Double sharp (talk) 08:00, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
- Sure but please give me the file name. Add the name of a file(redlink here) like File:blahblahblah.svg--It's better to name the file correctly than having to rename later.--Gauravjuvekar (talk) 14:44, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
- File:Wide Periodic Table (corrected).svg Done would be OK. Double sharp (talk) 05:44, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
- If this is a correction, the original file should be overwritten, but otherwise "corrected" seems erroneous. NikNaks talk - gallery 12:20, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
- It is a correction. I originally wanted to overwrite it, but Gauravjuvekar told me that it was a very visible file. I wouldn't mind if the original file was overwritten. Double sharp (talk) 03:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- I forgot to mention that Lu and Lr should be changed to #ffbfff and #ff99cc respectively in the first image. (They are already the correct colour in the second.) Double sharp (talk) 03:36, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- I'm uploading with the comment that these are bringing them into keeping with the infoboxes. Hopefully that should avoid any backlash. I've also optimised the files as far as possible while still keeping the IDs of each cell. NikNaks talk - gallery 13:49, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you Double sharp (talk) 13:13, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
- I'm uploading with the comment that these are bringing them into keeping with the infoboxes. Hopefully that should avoid any backlash. I've also optimised the files as far as possible while still keeping the IDs of each cell. NikNaks talk - gallery 13:49, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- I forgot to mention that Lu and Lr should be changed to #ffbfff and #ff99cc respectively in the first image. (They are already the correct colour in the second.) Double sharp (talk) 03:36, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- It is a correction. I originally wanted to overwrite it, but Gauravjuvekar told me that it was a very visible file. I wouldn't mind if the original file was overwritten. Double sharp (talk) 03:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
- If this is a correction, the original file should be overwritten, but otherwise "corrected" seems erroneous. NikNaks talk - gallery 12:20, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
- File:Wide Periodic Table (corrected).svg Done would be OK. Double sharp (talk) 05:44, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
Northern Ireland election seats 1997-2010
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Seats by party, elected to the UK House of Commons in Northern Ireland, 1997-2010 - to be vecotrised
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An svg file of the seats 1997-2005 may be of some use.
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Vectorised
Article(s): Ulster Unionist Party / Social Democratic and Labour Party etc
Request: Can the 1997-2010 file be vectorised please? Other images that may be of use are File:Northern Ireland election seats 1997-2005.svg, File:Northern Ireland election seats 1997-2005-by.svg and File:NorthernIrelandParliamentaryConstituency2010Results.svg. Also, using the parties' meta colours, they should be coloured as:
- Sinn Fein: #008800
- SDLP: #99FF66
- UUP: #9999FF
- DUP: #D46A4C
- UKUP: #660066
- Alliance: #FFD700
- Independent: #DDDDDD (not the pink)
Cheers, Zangar (talk) 13:22, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): How's that? NikNaks talk - gallery 21:08, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
- Fantastic, thanks for the quick turnaround! Cheers, Zangar (talk) 13:48, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
cut crystal axis
Article(s): Fluorine
Request: Please make a new file name (structure used in many languages!) that has the xtal axes abc in upper left removed (don't display well in thumb and not that important) TCO (talk) 19:03, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Request taken by Jon C (talk). Done
- Thanks, Jon!TCO (talk) 19:39, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
- Glad to be of help. Jon C (talk) 02:01, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks, Jon!TCO (talk) 19:39, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Baptist Union of Great Britain Logo
- File:Baptist Union of Great Britain Logo.gif Baptist Union of Great Britain Logo
- File:Baptist Union of Great Britain Logo.svg Baptist Union of Great Britain Logo SVG
Article(s): Baptist Union of Great Britain
Request: Please can you vectorise this logo, making the edges 'smoother' too. Thanks. Peter (Talk page) 09:17, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done Please mark entry as resolved if this fulfilled your request. Jon C (talk) 16:41, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
MundoFox
Article(s): MundoFox
Request: Please convert to SVG. — Yk Yk Yk talk ~ contrib 11:39, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Done I went to the Fox website for MundoFox and found a different (newer?) version of the logo so I uploaded an SVG of that instead.
- Actually I think that's an older version for the online VOD service. The logo I posted above was the one used in the press release announcing the new network. The best version is on this page. — Yk Yk Yk talk ~ contrib 23:55, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
Map of Fortified Position of Liège
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German-labelled map of Liège fortifications
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new file
Article(s): Fortified Position of Liège
Request: Can we get an English-labelled version of this (e.g., Liège, not Lüttich)? Mangoe (talk) 02:57, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
Graphist opinion(s): Request taken by Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) . Could you provide the translations? Doing them myself takes time. Also, I'm not sure it'll be possible for me to do the topographical shades, the subtle ones (perhaps someone with more experience can add them later). Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 11:58, 5 February 2012 (UTC) Done New file: File:Map of Liege defences (en).svg. I guessed at which things needed translation, if I've got some wrong ping me. Also if you could do a legend for the file? Thanks. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 14:16, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
- Thank you very much, that is excellent. I've updated the description on Commons. Mangoe (talk) 21:20, 5 February 2012 (UTC)