Talk:Forbidden City/Archive 1
Image:Forbidden_City_Beijing.jpg needs to be inserted in Tiananmen Gate when it exists as an article. --Jiang
- That image is appropriate here, in addition to the new aerial view. The three tiny semi-circular holes are probably just entrances, like the caption says, and basically part of the wall of the city. The real Tiananmen Gate should be at the front of the square, not attached to the city wall. It's quite tall, made of white stone I think.
- The Tiananmen Gate is described already as the second paragraph Tiananmen Square. The only article that links to Tiananmen Gate is this one, so separation may not be necessary. The question is: Is the gate really that separated from the square? If not, we should redirect and remove its reference (being the double, along with Tiananmen Square) from this article. --Menchi 06:11, 16 Oct 2003 (UTC)
- Dunno what you are talking about, but the tiananmen gate is not made of white stone and it is certainly attached to the wall. the ramparts are red, the railings are white, and the room is imperial yellow. --Sumple 04:14, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
The article first says the city has over 800 buildings and then says that it has 9,999.5. Which is it?
- 9,999.5. That's the way I heard it in Beijing. --DF08 13:40, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
I heard the same in Beijing too, however how do you have 0.5 room? Surely it is a room in its own right ;)
- 9,999.5 is a traditional/legendary number. the 0.5 refers to this little storage room/broom cupboard at one end of the imperial library. --Sumple 04:14, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Why is it called that
How come there is no explanation of why it is called the forbidden city? --Cchipman 01:16, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
- I too would like to know this. It seems a pretty obvious question. - furrykef (Talk at me) 06:54, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
Started under Yuan dynasty
The Forbidden City was started by the Mongol Yuan dynasty, but this article perpetuates the incorrect notion that the Ming started it. Supposedly, the palace was forbidden to Han Chinese as it was set up as a steppe environment so that the Mongol rulers could live as if they were still in the desert. These facts are from the book Genghis Khan and the Making of the Modern World by Jack Weatherford ISBN 0-609-80964-4. Dyl 18:03, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
- Fact? Yes the first palace on this site was built in the Yuan dynasty. However, the entire complex was burnt to the ground at the end of the Yuan, and a new palace was not built there until the Ming capital was moved to Beijing several decades later. The new palace is situated to the south of the Yuan palace (with a part overlapping). However, all surviving layout, buildings, and structures are from the Ming era or later. --Sumple (Talk) 06:00, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- Thanks for clearing that up. Shouldn't these facts be mentioned on the article? Dyl 23:22, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
- Good idea. I'll see if I can dig up some references. --Sumple (Talk) 02:46, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
Unmatched parens
There is a left parenthesis in the first paragraph of layout, with no matching right parenthesis. I'm not afraid to add one - but I can't really figure out where it should go. ClairSamoht 22:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
- done. --Sumple (Talk) 22:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
He Fei Castle
Yeah, so I just added a section under Miscellaneous about the forbidden City being similiar to He Fei Castle in Dynasty Warriors 3. I realize it's very much speculation, and isn't really verifiable through experts, but I think it should count as verifiable because all you have to do is look through the stage in the game and look at photos of the castle to see that they are very similar. So... I guess this is just an acknowledgement of possible verifiability problems and a pre-emptive defense. I hope anyone who changes it will read this first :-( 70.171.59.231 21:22, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- Hi, that's a very nice observation of yours. But I feel that because of verifiability issues (i.e. whether the castle is actually based on the Forbidden City) and triviality, the current section is a bit long. I'm editing it to make it a bit shorter and more consistent with the level of significance of this information.
- On another note, have you considered adding this information to the Hefei article, to which it is also, if not more, relevant? --Sumple (Talk) 23:26, 16 April 2006 (UTC)