Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels
Introduction to Discussion Forum
As some are getting a little confussed about where to go for General Project Wide discussions, and as other projects, (including the WikiProject style guide include a forum like this) I have established this for General discussion.
It should be used for anything project wide, and try to use the individual page talk pages for anything specific to that page. i.e. smaller issues.
Also announcements to the wider project user base perhaps should be made here. Not quite a one stop shop, but close.
Enjoy :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page) 09:45, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
Novel Infoboxes needed list
Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/InfoboxNeeded has a new list of Stuff to Do, if infoboxes are your thing. Thanks to Eagle for compiling it. Her Pegship 23:18, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
- The correct link is Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/NovelsWithoutInfoboxEagle (talk) (desk) 03:01, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Book editions
I'm a n00b in this particular project. Despite looking around, the answer to which/how many editions to reference in the infobox hasn't been adequately answered for me yet. My first effort is improving the article on Arrowsmith (novel). Details on the first edition are clearly hard to come by; details on every edition that has appeared since then are just as hard. So, for example, in the Media tag, do I list every medium this book has ever appeared in, or the medium it originally appeared in (hardback)? Other parameters are more manageable because there aren't that many editions of this particular book. Thinking about public ___domain works, though: do I list multiple sizes, weights, and ISBNs?
And of course you are welcome to comment on Arrowsmith once I actually write a non-crappy replacement. :) Spamguy 06:23, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
- Preference should begiven to the first edition - if not available give the first major edition for the nation of origin. If unavavilable a HB and PB edition of major note. Not a full list, that sort of this should be listed in the "Release details" section in the body of the article. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 12:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
Creating a new novel article
I have modified the instructions inside the template area for creating a new article to be more comprehensible, but I could simplify them greatly if the template were simply divided into to three pieces:
- Copy Template 2 (the main article) into a new article
- Write and save your article according to the directions therein
- Copy Template 1 (the infobox template) to the beginning, fill in the missing available information and delete the rest; save
- Click on the Discussion tab of your new article to create a Talk page for your article; insert a WikiProject line (from the single line in Template 3 (could this be automated?);save
- Edit your main article and remove the "redbox" line (the one telling you to create a Talk page); save. Alernatively the redbox part could be excised completely from Template 2 Modus Vivendi 21:30, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
This is sure to be one of the most visited articles on novels in wikipedia, but surprisingly it's in a sorry state. Currently a poorly organised collection of random tidbits of information, the article doesn't even contain a plot summary! I think this is an ideal venue to showcase the quality of our project. I'm currently short on time, so some help will be appreciated. Because of the book's special stature, it can't be made to conform to the template article exactly, but it will be a good idea to mix-n-match and give the article a complete overhaul. Thanks. Loom91 17:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
- This I definitely agree with; this article is a mess; and whatever it needs it needs a LOT of - we are going to have to do some preliminary planning for this and figure out what to keep, add, and throw away - I for one think that that whole references/ see also bit at the bottom could use some scaling down and the whole body needs a total makeover. -- Gizzakk 02:36, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- I'll start by giving it the infobox. And we can go from there. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 05:04, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
- We now have a subpage (see Talk:The Da Vinci Code) for work related to this effort. It may be used for coordination, talk and drafting. I created it to keep the clutter off this or the articles talk page. Loom91 07:37, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
An invitation to all members of this project
WikiProject Arts
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Gothic & horror
This may have been discussed before, in which case please let me know what transpired...I notice we have a Gothic novel stub category, but none for the broader category of horror novels. I keep running across stubs that could be sorted as horror-novel-stub and longing for such an option. Shall I go to Stub Proposals and propose one? Her Pegship 22:36, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
- This would probably be a good idea, I hadn't noticed that we lacked a stub for this, but there would certainly be usage if we had one. Just make sure that if it gets approved, you go and change a few appropriate stubs so that it doesn't get listed on stubs for deletion. User:Gizzakk
- I would support this if there really are enough articles to warrent it - if you want to propose is to the Stubs people then please do. Personally I was waiting until Eagle did his thing with a list to try and determine if there really were enough example of "horror novels" of small article size to warrent one. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 06:03, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
- There are; I found them by using Cat-Scan to look for articles that have both the "horror novel" and "novel-stub" categories. I'll put up a request later. Thanks for responding! Her Pegship 17:37, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
- Request is up at Stub proposals. Cheers, Her Pegship 20:29, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
- There are; I found them by using Cat-Scan to look for articles that have both the "horror novel" and "novel-stub" categories. I'll put up a request later. Thanks for responding! Her Pegship 17:37, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
- Not sure if this goes here, but are there any clarifying definitions for the difference between a gothic novel and a horror novel? I just finished a horror novel, I think, but maybe it was gothic? Thanks PeregrineV 20:29, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
infobox_needed
the sub page of this project "/infobox_needed" seems to have been superseded by "/NovelsWithoutInfobox"-- if nobody objects I am going to change the link under "work in progress" in the project box. Matt Kurz 21:51, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
- they are doing different things, the first is a manually generated list and can pick up articles intelligently, the second is automatically generated and is liable to faulty and incomplete selection. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 07:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
Use first-edition cover
As far as possible, I suggest using a first-edition cover in the write-up, or a fascimile of the opening page. At least it would look more authentic, and certainly more interesting, than any tom-dick-or-harry cover on the front. Mandel 21:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
- I had assumed this was the general consensus and that most people in fact did this. Was I wrong in assuming this? If that is the case we are going to have to go through and change an awful lot of book covers. -- Gizzakk 02:15, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- It is the norm - just make me think though we are working blithly that way and I don't think it is documented anywhere. I will have a look at our pattern templates and guidelilnes and see what we need to add. Thanks for raising this, there is always room to improve. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:26, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
- Would an embedded review of the change in covers over time be interesting, relevant or desired in articles on novels? some authors or publishing houses have shown particular care and pickiness over the choice of cover design, and this grows more interesting when such a novel is reprinted and repackaged many times over several decades. such discussion may illuminate changes in design with respect to literature. however, this may be dead weight for articles covering most novels. Lee.shoe 03:09, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- Sounds like an interesting idea to me - what type of novels had you in mind. You could try mocking one up, either in your userspace from an article or actually change one as you propose and let us have a look. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:11, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
(Book) vs. (Novel) in disambiguation
This might already be covered, but is (Book) or (Novel) the preferred means of disambiguation? I've been looking through the catagories and it looks nearly interchangeable. Does one help our bots over another?--Muliebris 20:02, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
- We are a novels project so we deal in Novels and they are written up as "The Novel Title" by preference, but if there is a disambig conflict then "The Novel Title (novel)" is used, with lower case "(novel)". If there is already one of those something like "The Novel Title (Author Name novel)". :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:11, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
ISBN
What's the best way to incorporate the ISBN into a novel article? In the text, in a "See also" or where? All the novel articles that I looked at didn't actually include this basic piece of information...Stevage 13:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- See the "Infobox Book" which has a field for ISBN. (see Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/InfoboxCode and then the "Release details" section included in Wikipedia:WikiProject_Novels/ArticleTemplate. Anymore questions, did you have particular articles in mind? :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 13:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
Should ISBNs be included if a book was first published prior to the introduction of ISBNs in 1966? I'm particularly thinking about the Infobox which should usually refer to the first editions. --Thf1977 11:53, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
- First edition information is prefered, so if this is available then my view is no it shouldn't be included in the Infobox. However a release history section is specified for near the end of the article call "Release details" of example see. Master and Commander. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:14, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Links
It might be good to link to this WP from the various novel stub categories... Stevage 13:15, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- I think most of them have a reference to it, at least on the "Talk" page there should be a {t1|NovelsWikiProject}} notice on each one. If not there you could place one, are you interested in contributing to the project? :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 13:38, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
- I think most of the novel stub templates are phrased something like this article on (insert novel stub name here) is a stub, please consider expanding and check out Wikiproject:Novels. Or something like that anyways; I know that is how I myself found the wikiproject. If you think it would be worthwhile to have a link in the heading if you feel like adding it. -- Gizzakk 02:45, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
Previous movie?
My husband and I are convinced that we saw a previous movie about The Da Vinci Code, possibly summer of 2004. We can't find any record of it, but we remember it very clearly. Any ideas out there?4.247.203.34 13:38, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- there have been numerous documentaries about the original "research", and a few about the subject once the novel came out one I was aware of has just been reshown on UK Channel 4 which is fronted by Tony Robinson of Black Adder and Time Team fame. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 15:05, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- Another possibility is that what you and your husband saw was one of the movies that came out that could be considered Da Vinci Code-ish. Two that come to mind are National Treasure and Sahara. -- Gizzakk 16:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
- I am having the same problem. I know I saw a movie dealing with the code and scenes in a Scottish Castle once inhabited by Knights templers. posted by User:166.44.21.52
Non-English Titles
I was just wondering if there is any precedent for renaming articles that are under their non-english names. This often comes up with novels that were written in different languages and then re-released in english, and I did not know if we were supposed to leave it or change it or what. -- Gizzakk 20:06, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
- Again no clear answer, I personally would say we should work to "English" it is an English wiki after all. In other words we should prefer English titles if the work is available in English. Exceptions would probably be, A) where the work in not available in English, B) where the work is "primarily" known by it's original language name. Hope that make sense to you. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 07:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yep, thats what I was asking and thanks once again. -- Gizzakk 11:54, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
- I think an example of B will be Les Misérables. Loom91 12:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
- The original French name is used because the novel has always been known by that name in English, because English speakers can guess the meaning of the word, and because no precise English word of the same meaning exists. Modus Vivendi 09:04, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
- I think an example of B will be Les Misérables. Loom91 12:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
- Yep, thats what I was asking and thanks once again. -- Gizzakk 11:54, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
Editing Stubs etc
I have noticed that although we have all these categories for stubs, hardly any of them are actually used and there are nearly 200 novels just categorised as novel-stubs. Consequently I am planning on going through each of these stubs one-by-one, dropping an infobox in and filling it in as far as data on the page allows, and categorising it where possible. If anyone thinks I can actually be doing something more useful along similar rote lines, please let me know! --JennyRad 11:03, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
- It would probably be a good idea to add the novel categories while you are at it, and www.alibris.com and www.amazon.com are good for any info that is missing. and dont forget to add the NovelsWikiProject and Novelinfobox incomp templates to the talk page (unless you fill out the entire infobox.) And thanks for helping! -- Gizzakk 03:49, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
- Not my area of specility, the wiki articles on both subject would probably help. Put simply I take, Horror to mean, having Horrific subject matter, particularly with supernatural themes. Gothics I take to be dark themed with character of the victorian period. Some stories / novels are both. I'm sure others will know different. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- The first gothic novels date from the 1760s, so they're hardly victorian ;-) See f.ex. The Castle of Otranto --Thf1977 09:32, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
- oops, but you know what I mean - "of the period". :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 11:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
Needed articles
Should we generate a list of novels that have little to no representation on Wikipedia?
Mikesan230 15:46, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
- There is such a page, reachable from the right hand side navigation template, call Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/ArticlesNeeded. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 06:07, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Needed articles 2
i think someone should make a page with a list of novels that are not represented on wikipedia, for whatever reason. then if it was linked to other novel-related pages people could see the list and add whatever stuff they want about books they've read. it sounds obvious, but i dunno if anyone's done it yet Pxw324 13:52, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
- There is such a page, reachable from the right hand side navigation template, call Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/ArticlesNeeded. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 06:07, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
Proposed New Infobox template
Wanted to start beefing up the characters in the Jane Austen novels and so created a Jane Austen Character template. This is my first one, so wasn't sure how I implement it?plange 04:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- Looks fine to me, although I would split out the caption in the manner of Template:Infobox Biography. It tends to look nicer in my view. Also I would make use of this one one article and ask if people approve before doing loads of work on them. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 07:48, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
Covers, translations
Two questions: 1) For translated novels, is it possible that the infobox can in any way be modified to contain a slot for original language publication date, and original language? If this is thought necessary, anyway. (I think it probably is.)
2) Covers: First edition covers... is this rigid? I see it's definitely better than slapping any old cover on an article, but, particularly with things such as ongoing series (see Ian Rankin and the Rebus novels), which often have similarly formatted covers, is it permissable to forgo the first ed. cover? Personally, I think the uniform look of the series of Rebus covers is much more pleasing as it is than if each entry was adorned with the first edition cover? To be frank, some old covers are pretty dire. Can there be exceptions for asesthetic reasons?! (Especially when an image of the first ed. cover can be placed somewhere else in the article?)
3) This also leads me onto the problem of UK v. USA editions... publishers, pages, differ across the oceans...which do we stick in the infobox? Is there some kind of uniform concensus on this (or do we list both? Or do we go for: If the book had US publication first, that's the data we use, and vice versa for UK publication?)
4) I've been filling in quite a few infoboxes lately, and coming across these issues (not to mention the completely insoluble problem of categorising the many subgenres of crime fiction...)... I don't want to make up my own rules as I go along if there's already accepted concensus on this (though if there isn't, I'll be perfectly happy to!) Barbara Osgood 18:46, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
- whole number of questions here, ok one at a time. 1) This is an English language encyclopedia and the emphasis should be on that language. I would go with details on the original language edition but in the text of the article. The introductory paragraph and "Release details" section are useful for this for instance. 2) First edition is prefered, but I know what you mean, sometimes however the old covers are better and the latter examples of a series adopt a "worse" style and consistency produces a less pleasing result. No easy answer on this one, however I think consistency is important, but the first edition cover could well be include later in the article. 3) I think here the principle here is the "first" edition (earliest country) is the important one, other info is extra. Personally I try to collect the "original" and that heavily cited on the web. (usually 2 - no more than 3). 4) Crime novels, you might need to explain exactly what your problems are. We have a page for this type of debate, over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/Novel_categorization. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 07:36, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
New Infobox for Review
Hello, have created an infobox for characters in Jane Austen novels. Let me know what you think and if I've left anything out and what my next steps should be. The template is Template:JAustenCharacter and I've created a Talk page on that template. Thank you! plange 12:53, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
Wikipedia:Collaborations
What do people think of starting a Wikipedia:Collaboration of the Week or Month for Novels. Would anybody be interested. For more information on the notionc try looking at Wikipedia:Collaborations and look around other projects. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 10:20, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
- A few points:
- Everyone who wished to help would have to obtain a copy of the novel in question, preferably the same edition and then read it; and as I believe that we here at WP:NOVELS have fairly eclectic tastes, even reaching a consensus on which novel to collaborate on might be difficult. If we were to do this, I would have to say that a monthly collaboration certainly seems more feasible, possible biweekly.
- Having said all that, I would actually like to do this if we could get enough people to assist and make it worthwhile. -- Gizzakk 12:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Infobox Preceding Book
Question on Infobox's.
On The Amber Spyglass I removed Northern Lights from the infobox Preceded by section just leaving The Subtle Knife, but another editor put it back in noting that it also preceeds The Amber Spyglass.
What's the standard procedure on this? I've already made a comment on the Talk:The Amber Spyglass.Grey Shadow 09:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Ok, do you know the nature of the challenge here. Sorry wind back, there should be "one" title preceeding and "one" title following. Having said that the basis of the before and after can be a cause for dispute. Normally where authors write descreet books the sequence would be order of publication (or in some cases writing). However many author write "series" of books where the plot follows a particular timeline. This is the normal sequence for these types of novels. In other words plot chronological. There should not be 2 preceeding novels. Does that help! :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 11:22, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know enough about the novels in question. It's listed as a Trilogy on the page.Grey Shadow 11:41, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Look at the publication dates, generally these will indicate which order a novel comes in the series, unless it is noted as a prequel; whichever novel immediately precedes the novel in question should be included in the infobox, and the other should be included in the same area in the infobox of the "in-between" novel. hope that wasnt too confusing. -- Gizzakk 12:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- I don't know enough about the novels in question. It's listed as a Trilogy on the page.Grey Shadow 11:41, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Having said all this the particular novel sequence appears sorted now anyway. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 12:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Young adult novels
Is it worth adding [Category:Young adult novels] to [Category:Novels by genre]? Grey Shadow 12:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- What do others think - I would have said that this is "by age group" rather than "by genre" :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 12:52, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
- Young adult isn't a genre. It's an age group. Young adult could be science fiction, horror, romance, mystery, fantasy, anything, really...I wouldn't use that as the genre...no way.
- Don't. Young adult is just a cheap marketing trick, not a literary genre. Loom91 06:10, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that young adult novels is not a literary genre, but as it defines a good number of novels it should be included somewhere. The spot on the Category:Novels page seems fine to me. -- Gizzakk 12:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, I just added a novel (Fame, Glory, and Other Things on My To Do List) that I couldn't find a category for...I'm thinking maybe "High School" would be the category, or even "Comedy"...I really can't decide...it's not really a romance. There are so many books out there that are simply about high schoolers that it almost ought to be its own category. Bob 15:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- I think what you are talking about would be called a coming of age novel, which is basically a novel about the life of a teenager, usually involving some sort of profound revelation or life lesson. Stuff like Shilo and The Red Badge of Courage comes to mind. I looked and they actually have a Coming-of-age films category. -- Gizzakk 17:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, I just added a novel (Fame, Glory, and Other Things on My To Do List) that I couldn't find a category for...I'm thinking maybe "High School" would be the category, or even "Comedy"...I really can't decide...it's not really a romance. There are so many books out there that are simply about high schoolers that it almost ought to be its own category. Bob 15:12, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- I agree that young adult novels is not a literary genre, but as it defines a good number of novels it should be included somewhere. The spot on the Category:Novels page seems fine to me. -- Gizzakk 12:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- I think Gizzakk's point is excellent with respect to a lot of novels of this kind (obvious examples to my mind being most of Judy Blume's or Paula Danziger's) but it strikes me that it doesn't cover quite a few other novels like the Sweet Valley High or for that matter Chalet School books which don't have the "revelation" or "life lesson" element and so, to my mind, hardly qualify as Coming-of-Age. Possibly there should be two categories (possibly with some overlap): Coming-of-Age and High School? --JennyRad 17:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Or maybe we should have coming-of-age and buy-this-crap-because-we-know-what-it-is-to-be-a-teenager-so-you-should-spend-
- I think Gizzakk's point is excellent with respect to a lot of novels of this kind (obvious examples to my mind being most of Judy Blume's or Paula Danziger's) but it strikes me that it doesn't cover quite a few other novels like the Sweet Valley High or for that matter Chalet School books which don't have the "revelation" or "life lesson" element and so, to my mind, hardly qualify as Coming-of-Age. Possibly there should be two categories (possibly with some overlap): Coming-of-Age and High School? --JennyRad 17:22, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
all-your-minimum-wage-job-money-buying-all-60-books-in-the-series-only-to-find- out-that-yes-,-the-cute-girl-DOES-end-up-prom-queen-and-falls-in-love-with-the- studly-football-captain. I'm joking of course, but it is a good question. For some reason calling it a "High School" novel doesnt seem right to me. Perhaps someone should consult a professor of modern literature or some such expert and find out if there actually is a genre for this sort of thing. if we are going to call it a high school novel, it should at least be a subcategory of young adult novel. On that point, If we are going to have a category:coming-of-age novels, where would it fit in; under genre, young adult novels, or what? -- Gizzakk 17:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- sniggers Yes, perhaps. :) At any rate, if Coming-of-Age novels were categorised as such I would say they should be a genre of their own - no need for Young Adult novels to have their own category (unless other ages have, anyway). Note that Amazon categorises both the Chalet School and the Sweet Valley High books as Children's, with the sub-genre School - there are worse things to copy than their categorisation, I should think. Except that I really wouldn't call them Children's books, particularly not the Sweet Valley ones - I definitely think of them as Adolescent. But perhaps Adolescent is a sub-category of Child.
P.S. I broke up your category-name, Gizzakk, 'cos it was breaking the formatting. Hope you don't mind! --JennyRad 18:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
foreign editions
I think there ought to be category for foreign editions -- maybe just the languages, or maybe more than 1 line: one for languages, another for titles. unless someone like John Irving who's translated into 50 languages makes this too unwieldy. Just a suggestion to mull over. Hayford Peirce 01:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Hi, thanks for joining the project, I notice you are somewhat of a veteran Wikipedian. Anyway, back to the subject. I'm not sure where you were thinking of this but this is unlikely to be a subject for the "Infobox Book" template at this is already very full and also the focus there is the "English" version of the novel., but with references to source language if in translation from a foriegn original. Their is obviosuly rom in the general text of any article to include this type of information; however one other section comes to mind. In the Wikipedia:WikiProject Novels/ArticleTemplate there is provision for a "Release details" section which is best illustrated by and example (Master and Commander#Release details which although is doesn't currently include foreign translations, it could. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:55, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Comments
Okay...I want to post my comments on a book...is there an appropriate place (in the article in a separate header, perhaps?) to post comments? If not, can we start doing that? Bob 20:26, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
- Do you mean your personal review of it? I think that isn't part of WP's purpose (correct me if I'm wrong, anyone). ♥ Her Pegship♥ 21:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
Fictional universes to be deleted?
See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fictional universes. I know the article is a little ungainly, but surely it has its place here. ♥ Her Pegship♥ 21:25, 6 June 2006 (UTC)