Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Desktop Linux

Desktop Linux

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Delete for being WP:POVFORK. Title and lead section of the article has no connection to its contents which is a bad fork of desktop environment, shell (computing) and WIMP (computing) articles and certainly not about Linux. The core of the article is an unreferenced, unexplained questionable WP:OR sentence in the lead: "The term Desktop Linux refers to all the software components that build a graphical user interface, that is designed for usage with a desktop computer and also devices, that offer identical human interface devices, such as Laptops." First, there is no mention of "Linux" in the underlined section. Second, graphical user interface is an aspect of computer software; it does not consist of software itself. Edits by some users like User:ScotXW has shown that they thought that perhaps "build" means "design and develop" and therefore this article is about software development. (I can't possibly say they are wrong because this jumble of text that asserts the title of "article" itself has no idea.) Third, the reset of the article is barely connected to this core sentence. It is from a flawed point of view that no other operating system other than Linux superfamily exist.

I was tempted to nominate this article for deletion under CSD:G1 but obviously the word "Linux" in the title is bound to attract Linux fans to say "keep" indiscriminately. Codename Lisa (talk) 15:12, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The article Linux on the desktop is outsourced of the article Linux range of use (the equivalent being de:Linux-Einsatzbereiche), which is outsourced of the article Linux.

1. There is no one Linux operating system, but there is an abundance of Linux kernel-based operating systems. The only software component that all of this OSes have in common is the Linux kernel. The rest of the operating system (even the C standard library!) can differ.

2. The difference of the OSes are either due to the hardware type (embedded computer with only 32MiB of main memory, MMU-less CPU, supercomputer, exotic instruction set, etc.) or due to the Human interface device, i.e. a touchscreen-based UI differs from one for pointing device and computer keyboard.

There articles were IMO inaptly named, and partly miserably written. I just begun changing this, and BAM, useless appears with "critique wannabe". How come, miserably written articles don't bother you? Are you a Linux-hater? Did Linux hurt your feelings?

Are there any technical questions or some comprehension problems regarding the scope or content of the mentioned article?

I, on the other hand, am very tempted to delve into the Chaos Communication Congress-Tschunk-matter. Was that another glorious session? Did the Brain strike again against the enemies of the Wikipedia? ScotXW (talk) 15:37, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 16:32, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The current Desktop Linux article is not that great, but it's much better as-is than not having it. In other words, there's definitely a lot more room for further improvements, but there's no reasonable backing to the proposal for deleting the article. It's not that great for sure, and there are many more things that should be also described or at least mentioned (like udev or dbus) for a much better big picture — but once again, it's still good as-is. Why should we delete it, when it can be improved? Should a headache be cured with some painkillers, or with an axe? :) -- Dsimic (talk) 18:59, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just saw that User:Codename Lisa is a member of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Microsoft... Are there any further doubts regarding as of why he/she isn't so fond of a Linux-related article? And particularly the article clashing with the Microsoft's holy grail — the desktop. :) -- Dsimic (talk) 19:12, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hi. Did you know that Codename Lisa is the codename for version 12 of Linux Mint? Obviously not. I am Linux and this article is not related to me. Best regards, Codename Lisa (talk) 20:17, 17 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]